Rich Teer writes:
>I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
>on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
>trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
>I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?

>I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
>about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
>only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
>right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
>apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.

Samba is very easy to get going for the basics. Far easier than any
other solution.

Microsoft SFU is going to be your only free NFS client. NFS clients
are pretty funky and clunky on Windows even when you pay for them.
In the past, they cost a fortune, now with solutions like Samba, they
are extremely rare.

Getting something shared out via Samba will probably take you less
than an hour, and is very transparent to the windows clients.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:31:49 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:

> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?

Samba is relatively easy to configure and works quite well. This is what
I use on a Solaris 9 x86 server for /etc/sfw/smb.conf:

---------------------------------------------------------------------
# Global parameters
[global]
server string = Samba Server
workgroup = WORKGROUP
interfaces = iprb0 192.168.0.6/24
encrypt passwords = Yes
log file = /var/log/smbd.%m
max log size = 50
time server = Yes
printcap name = /etc/printcap
os level = 65
preferred master = True
domain master = True
hosts allow = 192.168.0.
printing = lprng
print command = /usr/sfw/bin/lpr -Praw %s
lpq command = /usr/sfw/bin/lpq -Praw
lprm command = /usr/sfw/bin/lprm -Praw %j
lppause command = /usr/sfw/sbin/lpc hold raw %j
lpresume command = /usr/sfw/sbin/lpc release raw %j
queuepause command = /usr/sfw/sbin/lpc -Praw stop
queueresume command = /usr/sfw/sbin/lpc -Praw start

[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No

[save]
path = /save/save
read only = No

[save1]
path=/save1
read only = No
[printers]
comment = HP DeskJet 812C
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = admin, @staff
printable = Yes
printer name = raw
browseable = No

[hp]
comment = HP DeskJet 812C
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = admin, @staff
read only = No
printable = Yes
printer name = raw
# oplocks = No
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note that this is also a network print server; you can reduce its
complexity easily.

> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.

You could also use FTP; Windows uses a BSD FTP client.

For running X apps on Windows machines take a look at Cygwin.

Rich Teer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>
> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>
> TIA,
>

Getting samba running on Solaris 10 is perhaps the easiest thing to do
in Solaris 10.

It already starts by default and fails to launch cause it doesn't find a
config file. The following 3 commands will have you sharing out files
from home directories on Solaris 10 FCS.

cp /etc/sfw/smb.conf-examples
/usr/sfw/bin/smbpasswd -a
init 6

While that will start samba and automatically share out all home
directories for all current UNIX users, you will need to set the Samba
password for each user. You do this by running smbpasswd for each user
(or as root, same functionality as regular passwd).

Neal

Neal A. Lucier wrote:
> It already starts by default and fails to launch cause it doesn't find a
> config file. The following 3 commands will have you sharing out files
> from home directories on Solaris 10 FCS.
>
> cp /etc/sfw/smb.conf-examples


I try to be cute and screw it up.....

cp /etc/sfw/smb.conf-example /etc/sfw/smb.conf

Neal

Neal A. Lucier wrote:

> Getting samba running on Solaris 10 is perhaps the easiest thing to do
> in Solaris 10.
>
> It already starts by default and fails to launch cause it doesn't find a
> config file. The following 3 commands will have you sharing out files
> from home directories on Solaris 10 FCS.
>
> cp /etc/sfw/smb.conf-examples
> /usr/sfw/bin/smbpasswd -a
> init 6

No need for "init 6"
All you need is "/etc/init.d/samba start"

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Dave Uhring wrote:

> You could also use FTP; Windows uses a BSD FTP client.

Not for what these people want to do... :-(

> For running X apps on Windows machines take a look at Cygwin.

WHat a shame Cygwin doesn't include an NFS client!

Oh well, looks like Samba is my only realistic alternative. I was
hop to use M$'s WIndoze services for UNIX, but it only runs on WIn2K
and XPpro. As luck would have, the place I need to use this stuff
is using XPhome. Fscking Microsoft!

Thanks for the help, all.

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

Oscar del Rio wrote:
> Neal A. Lucier wrote:
>
>> Getting samba running on Solaris 10 is perhaps the easiest thing to do
>> in Solaris 10.
>>
>> It already starts by default and fails to launch cause it doesn't find
>> a config file. The following 3 commands will have you sharing out
>> files from home directories on Solaris 10 FCS.
>>
>> cp /etc/sfw/smb.conf-examples
>> /usr/sfw/bin/smbpasswd -a
>> init 6
>
>
> No need for "init 6"
> All you need is "/etc/init.d/samba start"

Shouldn't that be "svcadm enable samba"?

--
Ian Collins.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:18:38 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>> You could also use FTP; Windows uses a BSD FTP client.
>
> Not for what these people want to do... :-(

It's hard enough to teach some of them how to use "drag & drop" to copy
files over the network.

I also have Samba running on Solaris 10 x86 and Linux servers at an
ISP's office which do not have any print services. If you want the
smb.conf files for those let me know.

>> For running X apps on Windows machines take a look at Cygwin.
>
> WHat a shame Cygwin doesn't include an NFS client!

At least Cygwin is free; better than spending $$$ on Exceed.

> Oh well, looks like Samba is my only realistic alternative. I was
> hop to use M$'s WIndoze services for UNIX, but it only runs on WIn2K
> and XPpro. As luck would have, the place I need to use this stuff
> is using XPhome. Fscking Microsoft!

There are at least 200,000 other reasons for not using their ****ware.
But Samba does work well as a file server and is a valuable addition to
your toolbox.

> Thanks for the help, all.

You have earned it, many times over.

In alt.solaris.x86 Doug McIntyre wrote:
> Rich Teer writes:
>>I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
>>on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
>>trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
>>I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>
>>I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
>>about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
>>only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
>>right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
>>apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>
> Samba is very easy to get going for the basics. Far easier than any
> other solution.
>
> Microsoft SFU is going to be your only free NFS client. NFS clients
> are pretty funky and clunky on Windows even when you pay for them.
> In the past, they cost a fortune, now with solutions like Samba, they
> are extremely rare.
>
> Getting something shared out via Samba will probably take you less
> than an hour, and is very transparent to the windows clients.

Personally, I find samba obnoxious, and have no hesistation to purchase
WRQ's Reflection NFS client for windows. It's far easier and you don't
need to worry about how samba doesn't always integrate with AD like it
should.

Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:18:38 +0000, Rich Teer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Dave Uhring wrote:
>>
>>> You could also use FTP; Windows uses a BSD FTP client.
>> Not for what these people want to do... :-(
>
> It's hard enough to teach some of them how to use "drag & drop" to copy
> files over the network.
>
> I also have Samba running on Solaris 10 x86 and Linux servers at an
> ISP's office which do not have any print services. If you want the
> smb.conf files for those let me know.
>
>>> For running X apps on Windows machines take a look at Cygwin.
>> WHat a shame Cygwin doesn't include an NFS client!
>
> At least Cygwin is free; better than spending $$$ on Exceed.

Well, I've been a very happy customer with Starnet.com's X-Win32. They
recently came out with a beta of 8.0 which includes XDMCP over IPv6
even!! It's totally cool connecting your XDMCP over IPv6 on Windows :P

Plus, it has low memory footprint and no bloat compared to Exceed...

--
Bruno Delbono
Open-Systems Group
www.open-systems.org | www.mail.ac

Rich Teer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>
> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>
> TIA,
>
I had great succuss using pc/nfs. I used the Sun package (this was about
10 yerars ago) and it worked seamlessly. The data showed up as just
another drive. I have not used Samba, and have not looked at anything
along those lines for a good 7 years (I have been disabled, and am now
just getting back into work). I believe that there are mutiple vendors
who sell NFS for the pc.

Rich Teer wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>> You could also use FTP; Windows uses a BSD FTP client.
>
> Not for what these people want to do... :-(
>

why http isn't a solution?

On 2006-07-17 19:31:49 +0100, Rich Teer said:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>
> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>
> TIA,

Surprised no-one suggested PC-Netlink, Sun's own product. I find it
very OK, better than Samba which I have to say confuses the hell out of
me.

Basically turns your Sun server into a Windows box like Samba but with
better mamangement tools than Sambads SWAT.

In fact, I'm tempted to fish my copy out and install it, despite being
a PC free zone, unless Ultra 20 counts as a PC, which it does, hell
fire.....

Steve

In alt.solaris.x86 Gary Meerschaert wrote:
> Rich Teer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
>> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
>> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
>> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>>
>> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
>> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
>> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
>> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
>> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
> I had great succuss using pc/nfs. I used the Sun package (this was about
> 10 yerars ago) and it worked seamlessly. The data showed up as just
> another drive. I have not used Samba, and have not looked at anything
> along those lines for a good 7 years (I have been disabled, and am now
> just getting back into work). I believe that there are mutiple vendors
> who sell NFS for the pc.

The choices are slim these days. As for products that actually work and
don't look like some 16 bit turbo pascal app, it's just WRQ's Reflection
NFS. Sun dropped their NFS client for windows years ago, after changing
the name 600 times, sun style.

Hi,

for only a few files I would use ssh? Avticate it on Solaris and
download Putty for Windows. There is a SecureFile Copy Client (pscp.exe)
and you are able to copy easyly your files.

I would prefer this way without configuring samba or less secure ftp.

Rich Teer schrieb:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a requirement to access some data (just docs) that is stored
> on a Solaris 10 6/06 server from Windoze. I guess I could mess about
> trying to grok Samba, but is there anything, preferably free, that
> I can install on the PCs to make them grok NFS?
>
> I think they're running Windoze XP (not the Pro version); I thought
> about installing M$'s services for UNIX, but ISTR reading that it
> only works on the Pro version. Any ideas? Oh, it's not a requirement
> right now, but if the solution to this problem also allowed X window
> apps running on the server to be displayed, that would be great.
>
> TIA,
>

Ian Collins wrote:
> Oscar del Rio wrote:
>> All you need is "/etc/init.d/samba start"
>
> Shouldn't that be "svcadm enable samba"?

It should, but my solaris 10 has /etc/init.d/samba ("legacy_run")
Do Solaris 10 updates have samba under SMF control?

Oscar del Rio wrote:

> It should, but my solaris 10 has /etc/init.d/samba ("legacy_run")
> Do Solaris 10 updates have samba under SMF control?

If you did a full install of Solaris 10, you'll have Samba under SMF
control; if you had previously installed Samba separately (prior to
upgrading to Solaris 10), you'll have both.

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Dave Uhring wrote:

> At least Cygwin is free; better than spending $$$ on Exceed.

Very true. My long term goal is to migrate them away from Windoze
to SunRays completely. There's nothing they do that requires
Windoze (except one machine, which we'll have to keep around).

> There are at least 200,000 other reasons for not using their ****ware.
> But Samba does work well as a file server and is a valuable addition to
> your toolbox.

True enough.

> You have earned it, many times over.

Thanks, Dave; I appreciate that.

--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member

President,
Rite Online Inc.

Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638
URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich

tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
> Oscar del Rio wrote:
>
>
>>It should, but my solaris 10 has /etc/init.d/samba ("legacy_run")
>>Do Solaris 10 updates have samba under SMF control?
>
>
> If you did a full install of Solaris 10, you'll have Samba under SMF
> control; if you had previously installed Samba separately (prior to
> upgrading to Solaris 10), you'll have both.
>

My Full+OEM/fresh install of Solaris 10 FCS release also uses a legacy run:

host ~ % cat /etc/release
Solaris 10 3/05 s10_74L2a SPARC
Copyright 2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Assembled 22 January 2005
host ~ % svcs -a | grep samba
legacy_run Jul_03 lrc:/etc/rc2_d/S99samba_local

Neal