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  1. Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    Hi,

    Thunderbird 1.5 released.
    Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris is available on mozilla.org.
    You can get them here.
    ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.or...s/1.5/contrib/
    Please read the readme file before you use it.

    Regards,
    Leon Sha


  2. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    leon wrote:
    >
    > Thunderbird 1.5 released.
    > Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris is available on mozilla.org.
    > You can get them here.
    > ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.or...s/1.5/contrib/
    > Please read the readme file before you use it.
    >


    To my untrained eye, the readme for 2.8-sparc-gtk1[1] has a number of
    errors in it. Mainly it has to do with it referring to firefox in a
    number of places instead of thunderbird.

    While this isn't that big of a deal, if you are going to promote reading
    the readme before using, it would be good if the readme was correct.

    Thank you for maintaining releases in a timely fashion, your firefox and
    thunderbird builds are the only ones I use. You are way faster than the
    os2 guys now.


    Neal

    1.
    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozi...rc-gtk1.readme

  3. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    Unlike our Thunderbird 1.0.4 built from the sources, this binary
    distribution cannot start multiple instances of Thunderbird 1.5.

    If I do so, the second instance of Thunderbird hangs.
    If I then exit the first instance, the second instance produces
    a popup saying:
    "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding".

    The same happens if I have specified thunderbird in firefox as
    network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
    and I click on a "mailto:" link.

    Also vise versa, one cannot start multiple instances of
    Firefox 1.5.
    A command "firefox http://www.sun.com" hangs, and if the first
    instance is quit, there comes the popup
    "Firefox is already running, but is not responding".

    Our OS:
    SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc


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  4. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    Michael Tosch wrote:
    > Unlike our Thunderbird 1.0.4 built from the sources, this binary
    > distribution cannot start multiple instances of Thunderbird 1.5.
    >
    > If I do so, the second instance of Thunderbird hangs.
    > If I then exit the first instance, the second instance produces
    > a popup saying:
    > "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding".
    >
    > The same happens if I have specified thunderbird in firefox as
    > network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
    > and I click on a "mailto:" link.
    >
    > Also vise versa, one cannot start multiple instances of
    > Firefox 1.5.
    > A command "firefox http://www.sun.com" hangs, and if the first
    > instance is quit, there comes the popup
    > "Firefox is already running, but is not responding".
    >
    > Our OS:
    > SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc
    >
    >


    I have the same experience, and I'm pretty sure it is because TB 1.5 and
    FF 1.5 were compiled by the Sun Beijing Team with GTK1 support instead
    of GTK2 support. They compiled all 1.0.x release with GTK2 support, and
    the readme does not explain the reasoning behind switching to GTK1 with
    the 1.5 release. (Alan DuBoff and John Weeks used to maintain builds
    for solaris 2.8 linked against GTK1.)

    I have found the GTK1 libraries included in /usr/sfw are much buggier
    than the GTK2 libraries included in /usr. (There are a few UI bugs when
    FF and TB are compiled against GTK2, but they are much less severe than
    when compiled against GTK1, and the benefits of GTK2 far outweigh the UI
    problems.)

    Also if you use GNOME 2.0 on Solaris 8 or 9 or JDS on Solaris 10, a GTK1
    app cannot due a number of things that you would expect a GNOME app to
    do; communicate intelligently with other GNOME 2.x apps (open a link in
    firefox from thunderbird), correctly interact with gconfd to register
    themselves as the "default application", look up mime type
    registrations, or determine if a copy is already running and if so
    interact with it.

    Another benefit of using the solaris2.8-gtk2 builds, was that if you ran
    them on a system that had a later version of GNOME (Solaris 10 FCS for
    example) they share a more consistent look and feel with the rest of the
    GUI, and they are not subject to the same bugs that the Solaris 8/9
    GNOME 2.0.x implementations have; however, the solaris2.8-gtk1 builds
    have all same problems on Solaris 10 that they have on Solaris 8 or 9.
    Admittedly the solaris 10 builds use gtk2.

    Neal

  5. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    Neal A. Lucier wrote:
    > Michael Tosch wrote:
    >
    >> Unlike our Thunderbird 1.0.4 built from the sources, this binary
    >> distribution cannot start multiple instances of Thunderbird 1.5.
    >>
    >> If I do so, the second instance of Thunderbird hangs.
    >> If I then exit the first instance, the second instance produces
    >> a popup saying:
    >> "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding".
    >>
    >> The same happens if I have specified thunderbird in firefox as
    >> network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
    >> and I click on a "mailto:" link.
    >>
    >> Also vise versa, one cannot start multiple instances of
    >> Firefox 1.5.
    >> A command "firefox http://www.sun.com" hangs, and if the first
    >> instance is quit, there comes the popup
    >> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding".
    >>
    >> Our OS:
    >> SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I have the same experience, and I'm pretty sure it is because TB 1.5 and
    > FF 1.5 were compiled by the Sun Beijing Team with GTK1 support instead
    > of GTK2 support. They compiled all 1.0.x release with GTK2 support, and
    > the readme does not explain the reasoning behind switching to GTK1 with
    > the 1.5 release. (Alan DuBoff and John Weeks used to maintain builds
    > for solaris 2.8 linked against GTK1.)
    >
    > I have found the GTK1 libraries included in /usr/sfw are much buggier
    > than the GTK2 libraries included in /usr. (There are a few UI bugs when
    > FF and TB are compiled against GTK2, but they are much less severe than
    > when compiled against GTK1, and the benefits of GTK2 far outweigh the UI
    > problems.)
    >
    > Also if you use GNOME 2.0 on Solaris 8 or 9 or JDS on Solaris 10, a GTK1
    > app cannot due a number of things that you would expect a GNOME app to
    > do; communicate intelligently with other GNOME 2.x apps (open a link in
    > firefox from thunderbird), correctly interact with gconfd to register
    > themselves as the "default application", look up mime type
    > registrations, or determine if a copy is already running and if so
    > interact with it.
    >
    > Another benefit of using the solaris2.8-gtk2 builds, was that if you ran
    > them on a system that had a later version of GNOME (Solaris 10 FCS for
    > example) they share a more consistent look and feel with the rest of the
    > GUI, and they are not subject to the same bugs that the Solaris 8/9
    > GNOME 2.0.x implementations have; however, the solaris2.8-gtk1 builds
    > have all same problems on Solaris 10 that they have on Solaris 8 or 9.
    > Admittedly the solaris 10 builds use gtk2.
    >
    > Neal


    We are not running GNOME here, but CDE and Openwindows(olvwm).
    The gconfd mechanism does not exist.
    Perhaps the 1.5 versions only support GNOME mechanism and not the
    prefs.js="network.protocol-handler.app.mailto" mechanism?

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    Michael Tosch @ hp : com

  6. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    On 2006-01-23 20:30, Michael Tosch wrote:

    > Unlike our Thunderbird 1.0.4 built from the sources, this binary
    > distribution cannot start multiple instances of Thunderbird 1.5.
    >
    > If I do so, the second instance of Thunderbird hangs.
    > If I then exit the first instance, the second instance produces
    > a popup saying:
    > "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding".
    >
    > The same happens if I have specified thunderbird in firefox as
    > network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
    > and I click on a "mailto:" link.
    >
    > Also vise versa, one cannot start multiple instances of
    > Firefox 1.5.
    > A command "firefox http://www.sun.com" hangs, and if the first
    > instance is quit, there comes the popup
    > "Firefox is already running, but is not responding".
    >
    > Our OS:
    > SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc


    Bug in Firefox/Thunderbird 1.5. Will be fixed in 1.5.0.1 AFAIU.

    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312154

    My workaround in the meantime is to use the Firefox/Thunderbird 1.0.x
    start script.

    /MOL

  7. Re: Thunderbird 1.5 for solaris available on mozilla.org

    Mats Larsson wrote:
    > On 2006-01-23 20:30, Michael Tosch wrote:
    >
    >> Unlike our Thunderbird 1.0.4 built from the sources, this binary
    >> distribution cannot start multiple instances of Thunderbird 1.5.
    >>
    >> If I do so, the second instance of Thunderbird hangs.
    >> If I then exit the first instance, the second instance produces
    >> a popup saying:
    >> "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding".
    >>
    >> The same happens if I have specified thunderbird in firefox as
    >> network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
    >> and I click on a "mailto:" link.
    >>
    >> Also vise versa, one cannot start multiple instances of
    >> Firefox 1.5.
    >> A command "firefox http://www.sun.com" hangs, and if the first
    >> instance is quit, there comes the popup
    >> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding".
    >>
    >> Our OS:
    >> SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-29 sun4u sparc

    >
    >
    > Bug in Firefox/Thunderbird 1.5. Will be fixed in 1.5.0.1 AFAIU.
    >
    > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312154
    >
    > My workaround in the meantime is to use the Firefox/Thunderbird 1.0.x
    > start script.
    >
    > /MOL


    Thanks Mats, you hit the nail!


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    Michael Tosch @ hp : com

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