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  1. Changelog


    latest entry in Changelog.txt is dated Oct 13th? Anything happening?

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  2. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:20 +0000, greymaus wrote:

    > latest entry in Changelog.txt is dated Oct 13th? Anything happening?


    Well, there's a big election today. That's about it.


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  3. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:26 +0000, someone posting as Dan C purportedly
    wrote:

    > Perhaps he did! This is still a free country, ya know. At least until
    > the end of today...


    That's funny. Stupid; but that's why it's funny.

    Grow up dumbass. No one is coming to steal your toys.

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  4. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:50:36 -0600, wordsmith wrote:

    >> Perhaps he did! This is still a free country, ya know. At least until
    >> the end of today...


    > That's funny. Stupid; but that's why it's funny.
    > Grow up dumbass. No one is coming to steal your toys.


    **** off, Libtard.


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  5. Re: Changelog

    On 2008-11-04, greymaus wrote:
    >
    > latest entry in Changelog.txt is dated Oct 13th? Anything happening?



    I *love* this. All sorts of whiners coming out of the woodwork about
    "OMGZ!!!111 No updates for three weeks. What's wroooooonngggg?"
    Even worse, I saw the first of those posts after only twelve days had
    passed.

    Has it *ever* occurred to some of you people that that there's actual
    *work* and *time* involved in building and testing updates? I realize
    that a lot of the third party package sites just compile some **** and
    throw it out there hoping for the best, but that's not how the Slackware
    team handles things. Updates are just like releases - they'll come out
    when they're ready.

    -RW

  6. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Robby Workman wrote:

    > On 2008-11-04, greymaus wrote:
    >>
    >> latest entry in Changelog.txt is dated Oct 13th? Anything happening?

    >
    >
    > I *love* this. All sorts of whiners coming out of the woodwork about
    > "OMGZ!!!111 No updates for three weeks. What's wroooooonngggg?"
    > Even worse, I saw the first of those posts after only twelve days had
    > passed.
    >
    > Has it *ever* occurred to some of you people that that there's actual
    > *work* and *time* involved in building and testing updates? I realize
    > that a lot of the third party package sites just compile some **** and
    > throw it out there hoping for the best, but that's not how the Slackware
    > team handles things. Updates are just like releases - they'll come out
    > when they're ready.
    >
    > -RW
    >

    Hey, all I said was that it had stalled, I did say that I hadn't watched
    it before to interpret what it means.

    This time, I have been watching it on a regular basis. And what's
    surprised me is how continuous the work is. Then it stops, and I do
    wonder if that simply means all the easy things have been updated, or
    it's getting close to solidifying.

    You might recall that someone always calls for a contest to guess
    when the next release will be. I've always assumed they are reading
    the changelog, and from experience see a pattern emerging to suggest
    a new release is close. It's that which has made me watch the changelog.
    I haven't a clue what to watch for, are little tiny utilities getting
    update the mark of a release coming, or is it when some large things get
    updated?

    I'm not asking for answers, I'm just stating a curiosity

    It is a complicated thing, because if something gets changed, other
    things may have to change with it.

    Michael


  7. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:25:36 +0000, someone posting as Dan C purportedly
    wrote:

    > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:50:36 -0600, wordsmith wrote:


    >> Grow up dumbass.

    >
    > **** off, Libtard.


    QED

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  8. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:25:36 +0000, Dan C wrote:

    > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:50:36 -0600, wordsmith wrote:
    >
    >>> Perhaps he did! This is still a free country, ya know. At least
    >>> until the end of today...

    >
    >> That's funny. Stupid; but that's why it's funny. Grow up dumbass. No
    >> one is coming to steal your toys.

    >
    > **** off, Libtard.


    what like you're not voting for obama ?

  9. [OT] Politics

    Dan C wrote:
    >On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:55:36 -0500, Michael Black wrote:
    >> So Patrick took three weeks off to vote?

    >Perhaps he did!


    Well, he had to ask his boss first, and file some paperwork with HR, but
    I think it was approved.

    >This is still a free country, ya know. At least until the end of
    >today...


    I was going to say something political here, but then I changed my mind
    after I felt pity for the newsgroup.

    -Beej


  10. Re: [OT] Politics

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:06:11 +0000, someone posting as Beej Jorgensen
    purportedly wrote:

    > I was going to say something political here, but then I changed my mind
    > after I felt pity for the newsgroup.


    sniff...you're right...sniffsniff...come on everybody
    Kum ba ya my lord, kumbaya
    Kum ba ya my lord...

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  11. Re: Changelog

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Robby Workman wrote:

    > throw it out there hoping for the best, but that's not how the Slackware
    > team handles things. Updates are just like releases - they'll come out
    > when they're ready.


    They also read from the book that includes Pat is prohibited from having a
    life, and not permitted to have holidays, so what do ya expect

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  12. Re: Changelog

    Dan C wrote:
    > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:55:36 -0500, Michael Black wrote:
    >
    >>>> latest entry in Changelog.txt is dated Oct 13th? Anything happening?

    >
    >>> Well, there's a big election today. That's about it.

    >
    >> So Patrick took three weeks off to vote?

    >
    > Perhaps he did! This is still a free country, ya know. At least until
    > the end of today...
    >


    Yea, I think the commie is going to win. He just took Ohio, I think.

    Gonna have to go buy another gun before they are outlawed....

    - Kurt

  13. Re: Changelog

    ~kurt wrote:
    >Gonna have to go buy another gun before they are outlawed....


    Let DC v Heller put your mind at ease.

    -Beej


  14. Re: Changelog

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    On 2008-11-04, Michael Black wrote:
    > You might recall that someone always calls for a contest to guess
    > when the next release will be. I've always assumed they are reading
    > the changelog, and from experience see a pattern emerging to suggest
    > a new release is close. It's that which has made me watch the changelog.
    > I haven't a clue what to watch for, are little tiny utilities getting
    > update the mark of a release coming, or is it when some large things get
    > updated?


    I'm the one who always calls for this.

    The first several "Slackware Release Fun and Games" threads, I just
    sort of picked a time to start them. I generally did it based entirely
    on feeling; there were no clues I looked for to tip me off. After it
    got started, other people chimed in with clues. FWIW, I never listened
    to those clues and just started the latest thread whenever I felt like
    it.

    Now, being a member of the Slackware team, I have some fairly strong
    clues when a new release is coming, hence why I haven't offered any
    guesses of my own as to when the next release would be.

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  15. Re: Changelog

    ~kurt wrote:
    > Beej Jorgensen wrote:
    >
    >>~kurt wrote:
    >>
    >>>Gonna have to go buy another gun before they are outlawed....

    >>
    >>Let DC v Heller put your mind at ease.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Look at how well it is working in DC - plus the soon to be President said
    > states and cities should be able to ignore this section of the Bill of Rights.
    >
    > The DC vs. Heller thing, if anything, opens up the opportunity to require
    > registration of firearms. It didn't seem to address what types of firearms
    > one could have. So, basically, with an even more gun hating Democrat Congress,
    > and a gun hating Democrat president - well, lets just say I'm hoping they spend
    > all their time trying to fix the economy, and not eliminate private gun
    > ownership in the way we saw under the Clinton administration.
    >
    > The bad economy has seen a rise in suicide rates via guns. I'm sure that
    > will prompt some more regulation.
    >


    Quit clinging to your guns and your religion! Come into the collective
    and join your groupthink one-world bretheren...

  16. [OT] frickin' laser beams

    ~kurt wrote:
    >Look at how well it is working in DC


    Well, I recommend as a workaround they kick out all the local officials
    who would prevent firearm sales in the District.

    >plus the soon to be President said states and cities should be able to
    >ignore this section of the Bill of Rights.


    He can say it, but sooner or later it's going to get back to court if
    someone tries to enforce it. Thing is, in the case of DC, the 2nd
    Amendment has been ended-around by various laws that already exist. In
    that regard, I don't see how Obama's going to make it much worse than
    the current state of "impossible" to get a gun in DC.

    >The DC vs. Heller thing, if anything, opens up the opportunity to
    >require registration of firearms.


    This has always been an opportunity, hasn't it? I mean, the situation
    here in CA, for example... besides, Obama said he didn't think he could
    get that done federally.

    >well, lets just say I'm hoping they spend all their time trying to fix
    >the economy, and not eliminate private gun ownership in the way we saw
    >under the Clinton administration.


    Me too--gun violence is really out of the public eye at the moment. I
    don't think Obama's going to make such short work of the other issues
    that he'll have lots of free time to attack the 2nd Amendment. He has a
    pretty massive TODO list, not even counting pile of campaign
    promises--in which I don't recall him making much mention of gun
    control.

    There's always an issue to which the public demands the feds give
    their immediate attention. Always. And sometimes that's, "Do whatever
    it takes to protect me from the bad guys with guns."

    My personal read on Obama here is that he doesn't care about this issue
    very much, except insofar as it is politically expedient to do so. It's
    also pretty obvious that heavy-handed gun control and restriction
    delivers deminishing returns, e.g. in DC and CA, and a smart guy like
    him should be able to see that. The thing is, it's suicide to say gun
    control is lame when you're the Democrat. (Some regions of the country
    are crazy-violent and "guns for everyone" is a hard sell in the Big
    City.)

    But now that he's President-elect, he doesn't have to worry about using
    gun control to hammer his Democratic opponents. He can be lax about it
    and still not lose any votes to a Republican challenger who will
    undoubtedly be even more unrestrained on the issue. I'll be interested
    to see what he does; I have my guess.

    -Beej

    "I don't consider this to be a good format for me, which makes me more
    cautious. I often find myself trapped by the questions and thinking to
    myself, 'You know, this is a stupid question, but let me ... answer it.'
    So when Brian Williams is asking me about what's a personal thing that
    you've done [that's green], and I say, you know, 'Well, I planted a
    bunch of trees.' And he says, 'I'm talking about personal.' What I'm
    thinking in my head is, 'Well, the truth is, Brian, we can't solve
    global warming because I f---ing changed light bulbs in my house. It's
    because of something collective'." --Barack Obama


  17. Re: [OT] frickin' laser beams

    On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:47:55 +0000, someone posting as Beej Jorgensen
    purportedly wrote:


    Apparently your pity for the ng has waned somewhat.

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  18. Re: [OT] frickin' laser beams

    wordsmith wrote:
    >Apparently your pity for the ng has waned somewhat.


    Ha! Yeah, it was a long night of coding, but I made progress; thanks
    for the vent board.

    -Beej


  19. Re: [OT] frickin' laser beams

    On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:40:02 -0600, someone posting as ~kurt purportedly
    wrote:


    jeezus kurt give it a ****ing rest

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  20. Re: Changelog


    > Now, being a member of the Slackware team, I have some fairly strong
    > clues when a new release is coming, hence why I haven't offered any
    > guesses of my own as to when the next release would be.


    Not being part of the Slackware team that means I'm free to make guesses,
    and my guess is not for a while.

    I do wonder what the next one will bring in. Is KDE 4.1 mature enough? I
    suspect its too new for a slacware release right now. Being as we are on
    2.6.20's kernels now I can't quite see what the "killer app" is for the
    next release.

    !!!!

    Just glad I make one of my infrequent visits to the website. OK, next
    version will have KDE 4.1 by the looks of things! Not played with it. On
    that basis, it could be quite soon I suppose.


    Pete




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