New Slackware logo

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:14:24 -0700, Keith Keller wrote:
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> On 2008-09-18, Mark Madsen <mark.s.madsen+news@gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> It busts the Slackware philosophy of not fixing what isn't broken.[/color]
>
> This is 100% wrong, of course! From the front page:
>
> "Also, we recently commissioned Mark from Senile Felines Designs to
> create a unique new Slackware Logo (that's it there in the upper right),
> as we were getting a number of bug reports that the old logo could not
> be read easily while standing on one's head. ;-)"
>
> Clearly the new logo is a bug fix. ;-)[/color]

This bug was not correctly triaged. Most Slackers run only Slackware,
ever, so the logo is redundant. The real bugfix would have been to do
away with the logo entirely :-)
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> (I don't particularly like the new logo, but I also don't care, since
> it's still the same Slackware)[/color]

Once people start messing with one thing, others soon follow. What
next? Grub 2 as the default bootloader?

In newsgroup alt.os.linux.slackware, Robert Delahunt wrote:

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>> So, what's the consensus on this new Slackware logo...? If you haven't
>> seen it yet, go look at the site, it's in the upper right corner and is
>> mentioned by Pat in the news blurb.
>>
>> [url]http://www.slackware.com[/url][/color][/color]
[...]

I don't like it. Does not look good and is almost illegible.

Joe

On 2008-09-18, Mark Madsen <mark.s.madsen+news@gmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Once people start messing with one thing, others soon follow. What
> next? Grub 2 as the default bootloader?[/color]

regedit for config files! ;-)

--keith


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On Fri, 18 Sep 2008, Helmut Hullen wrote:
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> <AOL>
>
> Me too!
> The logo is ugly!
> </AOL>[/color]


I agree, looks like it was done by some wannabe 1337 16'yo kid

Ahhh... maybe PV wants to target the kids as well as us ol timers.
Which will not work, coz they wabtr point and pray in everything and I
prefer Slackware to stay the way it is, our ubuntu desktop gets multiple
updates a week, the Slack boxes dont, and theres good reason for that as
we all know :)

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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:32:33 +0100, Two Ravens spewed forth:
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> I do know that you seem to be fond of using someone else's sig
> line without giving them the acknowledgment of being the
> original author that they are due.[/color]

I have to agree here. This really does bug the **** out of me for some
reason. I don't what bothers me more - the stolen sig or the fact that
it's not set up correctly.

It's lame either way.

For what it's worth (not much..) I also prefer the older form.

It's clean, it's straightforward; much like the distro itself.



Steve

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:07:17 -0400, Stephen Bloom <sbloom@beauty.toad.net>
wrote:
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> For what it's worth (not much..) I also prefer the older form.
> It's clean, it's straightforward; much like the distro itself[/color]


Same here.

IMO the new logo looks like runes from the Lord of the Rings.

With no glossary in the back of the book.

The old one communicated and had an elegant simplicity.

The new one doesn't communicate and is fancy, but not elegant.

Dan C wrote:[color=blue]
> Perhaps we need to start a mass email protest to Pat...? ;)[/color]

Time to fork Slackware!

Somebody setup the domain slackwareclassic.com and have it forward the
slackware.com pages, just redirecting all links of the logo.

No sir, I don't like it! Too much novelty, no substance.

Blumf

Keith Keller wrote:[color=blue]
> "Also, we recently commissioned Mark from Senile Felines Designs to
> create a unique new Slackware Logo (that's it there in the upper right),
> as we were getting a number of bug reports that the old logo could not
> be read easily while standing on one's head. ;-)"
>
> Clearly the new logo is a bug fix. ;-)[/color]

that may be, but IMHO the new logo cannot be easily read while standing on
one's head, either. for that matter, it cannot be easily read standing on
one's feet! since when is slackware in the habit of fixing bugs MS-style?


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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:03:22 -0400, Frank Bell wrote:

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> IMO the new logo looks like runes from the Lord of the Rings.[/color]

yesssssssss precious...and we hates it!

Glyn Millington wrote:
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> Rupa Zangpo <rupa.zangpo@web.de> writes:
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>> Dan C wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> So, what's the consensus on this new Slackware logo...?[/color]
>>
>> The consensus in the "official" Slackware forum is:
>>
>> "What the f*** is Slamwars?"[/color]
>
> That was my reaction - hideous and illegible.
>[/color]

My eyes hurt.


It's sort of clever and would not look out of place on a 1970's youthclub
newsletter. Why not just switch to the 'S' logo from the cd cases?

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Rupa Zangpo wrote:
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> The consensus in the "official" Slackware forum is:
> "What the f*** is Slamwars?"[/color]

Score one for "brand recognition", I say ... :-/

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Frank Bell wrote:
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> IMO the new logo looks like runes from the Lord of the Rings.[/color]

The, "runes from the Lord of the Rings", are, as far as I can
recall the standard set of Anglo-Saxon runes, the Futhark. Just
google Runes, Anglo-Saxon or Furthark. (They may of course be
another of the Furthark's, but as Tolkein was a Professor of
English/Literature I think Anglo-Saxon more likely).

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Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> wrote:[color=blue]
> I agree, except maybe not "by far".
>
> Plusses:
>[/color]
still the same look in lynx
.... ALT="Slackware Logo" ...

but I don't like the look in a gui browser,

print a logo, size of a magazin, put it on a car, go to the other
street side, is the logo recognizable?

fancy design, but useless as logo,
slackware is known to be technicaly clean and crispy, kiss in perfection

but a logo from teletubbie land, broken by design

cu Frank

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:42:15 -0400, mister b <mist@b.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:03:22 -0400, Frank Bell wrote:
>[color=green]
>> IMO the new logo looks like runes from the Lord of the Rings.[/color]
> yesssssssss precious...and we hates it![/color]


This doesn't advance the dialog, but I must thank you for the best laugh
I've had in days!

And, boy! did I need a laugh.

Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> writes:
[color=blue]
> So, what's the consensus on this new Slackware logo...? If you haven't
> seen it yet, go look at the site, it's in the upper right corner and is
> mentioned by Pat in the news blurb.
>
> [url]http://www.slackware.com[/url]
>
> I don't like it. Looks too "kiddy" to me, although it is kinda cool how
> it can be used upside down. I prefer the old (original?) logo by far.
> I'm pretty surprised that Pat approved of such a change. Thoughts?[/color]

I do not like it either. Too modern ? Too curvy ? Dunno but it
does not taste good to my eyes.

Dan C wrote:
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> So, what's the consensus on this new Slackware logo...? If you haven't
> seen it yet, go look at the site, it's in the upper right corner and is
> mentioned by Pat in the news blurb.
>
> [url]http://www.slackware.com[/url]
>
> I don't like it. Looks too "kiddy" to me, although it is kinda cool how
> it can be used upside down. I prefer the old (original?) logo by far.
> I'm pretty surprised that Pat approved of such a change. Thoughts?
>
>[/color]
It sucks. Just. Plain. Bad. I am glad PV put something on the News page
about it, though. For a while there, I was afraid he'd hired Al.

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Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Too late, I'm afraid. The change has already happened, and it's even on
> all the shirts/merchandise at the official store.[/color]

Oh well, I think it is a mistake. I don't care how odd it looks - I just
think it is bad business to make it so hard to read. But hey, the name
Slackware isn't exactly good business....

I prefered the old webpage style from years back (while we are on the
topic of bitching). It was black with white text.

- Kurt

On 2008-09-18, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> So, what's the consensus on this new Slackware logo...?[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
> Thoughts?
>[/color]

Change is bad.


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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:50:04 -0400, Old Man wrote:
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> It sucks. Just. Plain. Bad. I am glad PV put something on the News
> page about it, though. For a while there, I was afraid he'd hired Al.[/color]

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