SPARC (OT post resolved, perhaps)

A few weeks back I had tried to get the Slackware port installed on an old
Sun Workstation.

Though when configuring Xorg, the Sun video card was properly detected,
the problem I had was lack of "pointing device" and the loading of the
x-server failed.

Though I had also tried to install Debian, I could not due to an obsolete cd
rom
which I finally replaced and got the installation to complete.

Ironically Xorg detected and installed the mouse ok, but the x-server
loading failed
due to lack of "screens".

I eventually created a new xorg.conf using the proper mouse
and the proper video...and got the Debian x-server to work

But using the same xorg.conf on the "Splack" installation
still ended up with lack of "pointing device"

So who ever told me politely that perhaps "Splack" was a bit to much for my
abilities...

You were right!


Though I will probably keep trying :)

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:jOadnWAgXcxCHivVnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@ntd.net...[color=blue]
> A few weeks back I had tried to get the Slackware port installed on an old
> Sun Workstation.
>
> Though when configuring Xorg, the Sun video card was properly detected,
> the problem I had was lack of "pointing device" and the loading of the
> x-server failed.
>
> Though I had also tried to install Debian, I could not due to an obsolete[/color]
cd[color=blue]
> rom
> which I finally replaced and got the installation to complete.
>
> Ironically Xorg detected and installed the mouse ok, but the x-server
> loading failed
> due to lack of "screens".
>
> I eventually created a new xorg.conf using the proper mouse
> and the proper video...and got the Debian x-server to work
>
> But using the same xorg.conf on the "Splack" installation
> still ended up with lack of "pointing device"
>
> So who ever told me politely that perhaps "Splack" was a bit to much for[/color]
my[color=blue]
> abilities...
>
> You were right!
>
>
> Though I will probably keep trying :)
>
>[/color]

I finally got it
but had to use a serial mouse

sheesh

philo wrote:
[color=blue]
> I finally got it but had to use a serial mouse[/color]

Now what was it I'd written a while back? Ah! Here it is:

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <slrnga3hla.6jv.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca>
...
A quick look at drivers/input/mouse/Kconfig on a relatively recent
kernel tree, though, shows this, which might help:

config MOUSE_SERIAL
tristate "Serial mouse"
select SERIO
help
Say Y here if you have a serial (RS-232, COM port) mouse
connected to your system. This includes Sun, MouseSystems,
Microsoft, Logitech and all other compatible serial mice.

Indeed drivers/input/mouse/sermouse.c is the only source file with
reference to the Sun mouse protocol.

:-)

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"Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
news:slrngbhnq5.49n.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=blue]
> philo wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I finally got it but had to use a serial mouse[/color]
>
> Now what was it I'd written a while back? Ah! Here it is:
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC)
> Message-ID: <slrnga3hla.6jv.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca>
> ...
> A quick look at drivers/input/mouse/Kconfig on a relatively recent
> kernel tree, though, shows this, which might help:
>
> config MOUSE_SERIAL
> tristate "Serial mouse"
> select SERIO
> help
> Say Y here if you have a serial (RS-232, COM port) mouse
> connected to your system. This includes Sun, MouseSystems,
> Microsoft, Logitech and all other compatible serial mice.
>
> Indeed drivers/input/mouse/sermouse.c is the only source file with
> reference to the Sun mouse protocol.
>
> :-)[/color]

Indeed, you have been extremely helpful and I thank you.

Now that I have the x-server up and running another problem has turned up.

The keyboard map is all wrong in the GUI mode.

I am using a Sun keyboard type 5c

but no matter how I identify it in "XkbModel"

it does not seem to make a difference ; viz. "type4" , "type5" ,
"pc101" etc

Taking the info from my working Debian installation


for "XkbLayout" I simply used "us"


the configuration was 100% *incorrect* !

In frustration I changed "XkbLayout" to "US"

and surprisingly got about a 60% correspondence ! LOL


any ideas?


Thanks!

On 08/30/08 10:54, philo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Now that I have the x-server up and running another problem has
> turned up.
>
> The keyboard map is all wrong in the GUI mode.
>
> I am using a Sun keyboard type 5c but no matter how I identify it
> in "XkbModel" it does not seem to make a difference ; viz.
> "type4" , "type5" , "pc101" etc
>
> Taking the info from my working Debian installation for "XkbLayout"
> I simply used "us" the configuration was 100% *incorrect* !
>
> In frustration I changed "XkbLayout" to "US" and surprisingly
> got about a 60% correspondence ! LOL
>
> any ideas?[/color]

The directory /etc/X11/kbd contains the files used to setup a working
configuration for keyboard. Look there and try which setup is best
for you. You can even build a driver for your own keyboard.

In the old releases I remember using a nice README to setup the
correct keyboard but I can't find it anymore. It seems that it is not
present in the distribution since Slackware 12.0 but it is in the x11
package of Slackware 11.0

Ciao
Giovanni
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it stops working when you open Windows.
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"Giovanni" <lsodgf0@home.net.it> wrote in message
news:g9b93h$a86$1@milena.home.net.it...[color=blue]
> On 08/30/08 10:54, philo wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Now that I have the x-server up and running another problem has
> > turned up.
> >
> > The keyboard map is all wrong in the GUI mode.
> >
> > I am using a Sun keyboard type 5c but no matter how I identify it
> > in "XkbModel" it does not seem to make a difference ; viz.
> > "type4" , "type5" , "pc101" etc
> >
> > Taking the info from my working Debian installation for "XkbLayout"
> > I simply used "us" the configuration was 100% *incorrect* !
> >
> > In frustration I changed "XkbLayout" to "US" and surprisingly
> > got about a 60% correspondence ! LOL
> >
> > any ideas?[/color]
>
> The directory /etc/X11/kbd contains the files used to setup a working
> configuration for keyboard. Look there and try which setup is best
> for you. You can even build a driver for your own keyboard.
>
> In the old releases I remember using a nice README to setup the
> correct keyboard but I can't find it anymore. It seems that it is not
> present in the distribution since Slackware 12.0 but it is in the x11
> package of Slackware 11.0
>
> Ciao
> Giovanni[/color]


I'll have to do some serious research...as I have tried all layouts that
seemed reasonably appropriate
thank you!

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> I'll have to do some serious research...as I have tried all layouts that
> seemed reasonably appropriate
> thank you![/color]

Maybe another approach would work better for you?:

xmodmap -pke > /tmp/current.map
(use your favorite editor to edit /tmp/current.map,
xev might also be useful)
xmodmap /tmp/current.map

Once you get a keyboard mapping that you like you can rename the file
current.map to some place where it is read by your startup scripts like

~/.Xmodmap

or maybe

/etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

Check your X startup scripts for which files are read.

regards Henrik
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"Henrik Carlqvist" <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.09.01.06.13.16.826229@deadspam.com...[color=blue]
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:[color=green]
> > I'll have to do some serious research...as I have tried all layouts that
> > seemed reasonably appropriate
> > thank you![/color]
>
> Maybe another approach would work better for you?:
>
> xmodmap -pke > /tmp/current.map
> (use your favorite editor to edit /tmp/current.map,
> xev might also be useful)
> xmodmap /tmp/current.map
>
> Once you get a keyboard mapping that you like you can rename the file
> current.map to some place where it is read by your startup scripts like
>
> ~/.Xmodmap
>
> or maybe
>
> /etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>
> Check your X startup scripts for which files are read.
>
> regards Henrik[/color]


Thanks for the suggestion, I've printed it out for reference.

I have the machine off my work-bench now
as I have two more I'm working on that have higher priority.

When I get back to the Sun Workstation I'll investegate further

I was actually creating aliases so that I could run the apps I had wanted to
try...
by using the rows of keys that were mapped correctly :)

The biggest problem was that the lowest row of keys did nothing at all!

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:q-SdnWCcJIM7bSbVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@ntd.net...[color=blue]
>
> "Henrik Carlqvist" <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.09.01.06.13.16.826229@deadspam.com...[color=green]
> > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > I'll have to do some serious research...as I have tried all layouts[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > seemed reasonably appropriate
> > > thank you![/color]
> >
> > Maybe another approach would work better for you?:
> >
> > xmodmap -pke > /tmp/current.map
> > (use your favorite editor to edit /tmp/current.map,
> > xev might also be useful)
> > xmodmap /tmp/current.map
> >
> > Once you get a keyboard mapping that you like you can rename the file
> > current.map to some place where it is read by your startup scripts like
> >
> > ~/.Xmodmap
> >
> > or maybe
> >
> > /etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
> >
> > Check your X startup scripts for which files are read.
> >
> > regards Henrik[/color]
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, I've printed it out for reference.
>
> I have the machine off my work-bench now
> as I have two more I'm working on that have higher priority.
>
> When I get back to the Sun Workstation I'll investegate further
>
> I was actually creating aliases so that I could run the apps I had wanted[/color]
to[color=blue]
> try...
> by using the rows of keys that were mapped correctly :)
>
> The biggest problem was that the lowest row of keys did nothing at all![/color]


Well, I got all my repairs done in record time (thought I'd have my bench
tied up for a few days)
and put the Sun Workstation back on the bench...and I am not making much
progress.

IF I set XkbLayout to "us" or "en_US"

the mapping is 100% wrong...


but if I "rem" out the XkbLaypout option, then it's about 60% right...
but the bottom row of keys does nothing!

I've now shut the machine down and will have to give up again
for now[color=blue]
>
>[/color]