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SPARC
I posted a few days ago about installing a ported version
of Slackware on a SPARC , Sun Workstation...but the machine did not boot.
(I did a test install of Net BSD, to prove to myself that the machine's H/W
was OK)
I was advised to configure SILO.
That was good advice as now the machine at least tries to boot.
Right after the boot message: "mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
I run into a kernal panic no init found try passing init=option to the
kernel
How did that happen on a new install?
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Re: SPARC
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:7fqdnZTj6anrBQDVnZ2dnUVZ_rrinZ2d@ntd.net...[color=blue]
> I posted a few days ago about installing a ported version
> of Slackware on a SPARC , Sun Workstation...but the machine did not boot.
> (I did a test install of Net BSD, to prove to myself that the machine's[/color]
H/W[color=blue]
> was OK)
>
> I was advised to configure SILO.
>
> That was good advice as now the machine at least tries to boot.
>
> Right after the boot message: "mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
>
> I run into a kernal panic no init found try passing init=option to[/color]
the[color=blue]
> kernel
>
>
> How did that happen on a new install?
>
>[/color]
Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in /sbin
where I believe it's supposed to be
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Re: SPARC
philo wrote:
[color=blue]
> Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in
> /sbin where I believe it's supposed to be[/color]
I hope you're going to tell me that this is a stupid question, and that
the answer is "yes, of course it is!" but ... /sbin is in your root
partition?
More importantly, are you sure that the root partition is on a disk for
which the booting kernel has support built-in for the disk controller
(my Sparc systems are all exclusively SCSI; I imagine yours likely is
as well) and file-system?
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Sylvain Robitaille [email]syl@alcor.concordia.ca[/email]
Network and Systems analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Re: SPARC
"Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=blue]
> philo wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in
> > /sbin where I believe it's supposed to be[/color]
>
> I hope you're going to tell me that this is a stupid question, and that
> the answer is "yes, of course it is!" but ... /sbin is in your root
> partition?
>
> More importantly, are you sure that the root partition is on a disk for
> which the booting kernel has support built-in for the disk controller
> (my Sparc systems are all exclusively SCSI; I imagine yours likely is
> as well) and file-system?
>[/color]
Thanks for the reply.
I re-examined everything and I must have (stupidly) not paid attention to
which kernel I was using...
I replaced the kernel with a scsi support kernel and now the system boots up
fine.
My next problem is setting up the X-server.
When I used to run Slackware on my i386 machine I generally set it up
manually,
and though it took me a while...I always got things sorted out.
Now I see there is Xorg to make things easy.
Unfortunately, a ton of the H/W that was ported over was for i386
and it took me a while to actually get a Sun video card installed,
but I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
error.
All choices are for i386 H/W such as serial and ps/2 mouse,
so the best I could to was "auto"
but that did now work.
I even tried "remarking out" all references to mouse or pointing device
but still get the "no pointing device" error, and the X-server fails.
There has to be a way to get it running I'd think???
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Re: SPARC
philo <philo@privacy.net>:[color=blue]
>
> "Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
> news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=green]
> > philo wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in
> > > /sbin where I believe it's supposed to be[/color]
> >
> > I hope you're going to tell me that this is a stupid question, and that
> > the answer is "yes, of course it is!" but ... /sbin is in your root
> > partition?[/color]
>
> I re-examined everything and I must have (stupidly) not paid attention to
> which kernel I was using...
>
> I replaced the kernel with a scsi support kernel and now the system boots up
> fine.
>
> My next problem is setting up the X-server.[/color]
As root: X -configure
[color=blue]
> When I used to run Slackware on my i386 machine I generally set it
> up manually, and though it took me a while...I always got things
> sorted out.
>
> Now I see there is Xorg to make things easy.
>
> Unfortunately, a ton of the H/W that was ported over was for i386
> and it took me a while to actually get a Sun video card installed,
> but I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> error.[/color]
I don't even get that. Where is the mouse device on a U30?!? cat
/proc/devices lists a psaux
[color=blue]
> There has to be a way to get it running I'd think???[/color]
You'd think. Hardware! :-P
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Re: SPARC
"s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote in message
news:slrnga1fr3.48p.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com...[color=blue]
> philo <philo@privacy.net>:[color=green]
> >
> > "Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
> > news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=darkred]
> > > philo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in
> > > > /sbin where I believe it's supposed to be
> > >
> > > I hope you're going to tell me that this is a stupid question, and[/color][/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > the answer is "yes, of course it is!" but ... /sbin is in your root
> > > partition?[/color]
> >
> > I re-examined everything and I must have (stupidly) not paid attention[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > which kernel I was using...
> >
> > I replaced the kernel with a scsi support kernel and now the system[/color][/color]
boots up[color=blue][color=green]
> > fine.
> >
> > My next problem is setting up the X-server.[/color]
>
> As root: X -configure[/color]
Tried that but same error:
no mouse found
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > When I used to run Slackware on my i386 machine I generally set it
> > up manually, and though it took me a while...I always got things
> > sorted out.
> >
> > Now I see there is Xorg to make things easy.
> >
> > Unfortunately, a ton of the H/W that was ported over was for i386
> > and it took me a while to actually get a Sun video card installed,
> > but I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> > error.[/color]
>
> I don't even get that. Where is the mouse device on a U30?!? cat
> /proc/devices lists a psaux
>[color=green]
> > There has to be a way to get it running I'd think???[/color]
>
> You'd think. Hardware! :-P
>
>
> --
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
> (*) [url]http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html[/url] Linux Counter #80292
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Re: SPARC
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:5aydnXFQ7IMLUj3VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@ntd.net...[color=blue]
>
> "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnga1fr3.48p.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com...[color=green]
> > philo <philo@privacy.net>:[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > "Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...
> > > > philo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Oh, forgot to mention that I did confirm that init is located in
> > > > > /sbin where I believe it's supposed to be
> > > >
> > > > I hope you're going to tell me that this is a stupid question, and[/color][/color]
> that[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > the answer is "yes, of course it is!" but ... /sbin is in your root
> > > > partition?
> > >
> > > I re-examined everything and I must have (stupidly) not paid[/color][/color][/color]
attention[color=blue]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > which kernel I was using...
> > >
> > > I replaced the kernel with a scsi support kernel and now the system[/color][/color]
> boots up[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > My next problem is setting up the X-server.[/color]
> >
> > As root: X -configure[/color]
>
>
> Tried that but same error:
>
> no mouse found
>
>[/color]
Also tried a serial mouse, with the same negative results
BTW: When I tried commenting out the mouse and still got the "no mouse"
error
it said that it was referenced in Xorg configured ???
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Re: SPARC
philo <philo@privacy.net>:[color=blue]
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:5aydnXFQ7IMLUj3VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@ntd.net...[color=green]
> > "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote in message
> > news:slrnga1fr3.48p.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com...[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > As root: X -configure[/color]
> >
> > Tried that but same error:
> >
> > no mouse found[/color]
>
> Also tried a serial mouse, with the same negative results
>
> BTW: When I tried commenting out the mouse and still got the "no
> mouse" error it said that it was referenced in Xorg configured ???[/color]
Grr ... I was using this stuff in '93, but not on Sparc. It's been a
long time, and I don't really grok Sparc.
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Re: SPARC
"s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote in message
news:slrnga1mt8.48p.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com...[color=blue]
> philo <philo@privacy.net>:[color=green]
> > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:5aydnXFQ7IMLUj3VnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@ntd.net...[color=darkred]
> > > "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> wrote in message
> > > news:slrnga1fr3.48p.keeling@phreaque.nucleus.com...
> > > >
> > > > As root: X -configure
> > >
> > > Tried that but same error:
> > >
> > > no mouse found[/color]
> >
> > Also tried a serial mouse, with the same negative results
> >
> > BTW: When I tried commenting out the mouse and still got the "no
> > mouse" error it said that it was referenced in Xorg configured ???[/color]
>
> Grr ... I was using this stuff in '93, but not on Sparc. It's been a
> long time, and I don't really grok Sparc.
>
>[/color]
Yes, Linux seems to be pretty well perfected for i386
but with SPARC it does not seem to be there yet .
Of course, I've got some pretty old H/W.
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Re: SPARC
philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
> news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=green]
> > philo wrote:
> >[/color]
>
> My next problem is setting up the X-server.
>
> When I used to run Slackware on my i386 machine I generally set it up
> manually,
> and though it took me a while...I always got things sorted out.
>
> Now I see there is Xorg to make things easy.
>[/color]
On a old SPARCstation 5? X should be configless. There is like only 5-6
possible video card and 1-2 mouse type and everything is well identified
in the PROM device tree.
On 32 bits sparc, you usually have single zylog chip doing 4 serial
ports. 2 are use for the keyboard/mouse combo and 2 are available as
serial A/B.
[color=blue]
> Unfortunately, a ton of the H/W that was ported over was for i386
> and it took me a while to actually get a Sun video card installed,
> but I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> error.[/color]
You have a SPARCstation 5 or a SPARC64 system with a PCI bus?
[color=blue]
>
> All choices are for i386 H/W such as serial and ps/2 mouse,
> so the best I could to was "auto"
> but that did now work.
>
> I even tried "remarking out" all references to mouse or pointing device
> but still get the "no pointing device" error, and the X-server fails.
>
> There has to be a way to get it running I'd think???[/color]
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Re: [OT] SPARC
I'm marking this followup off-topic, since Splack, despite being based
on Slackware, is not Slackware.
philo wrote:
[color=blue]
> My next problem is setting up the X-server.
> ...
> ... I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> error.[/color]
I'm only guessing here, as I haven't been in front of my Sparc systems
for a long time, and as I noted in an earlier message, I have no
experience at all with Splack, but it sounds to me again like you
probably have a driver missing. (or at least the X server isn't able to
access the driver)
Can you see any reference to the mouse device in dmesg output?
Can you show which (modularized) device drivers are loaded? I don't
recall which device driver the Sun mouse needs. A quick look at
drivers/input/mouse/Kconfig on a relatively recent kernel tree, though,
shows this, which might help:
config MOUSE_SERIAL
tristate "Serial mouse"
select SERIO
help
Say Y here if you have a serial (RS-232, COM port) mouse
connected to your system. This includes Sun, MouseSystems,
Microsoft, Logitech and all other compatible serial mice.
Indeed drivers/input/mouse/sermouse.c is the only source file with
reference to the Sun mouse protocol.
If you are able to confirm that the kernel finds the mouse at boot-time,
and are sure the driver is loaded, check also for the correct device
file. Documentation/devices.txt shows the following for a Sun mouse:
10 char Non-serial mice, misc features
...
6 = /dev/sunmouse Sun mouse
I hope this helps ...
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Sylvain Robitaille [email]syl@alcor.concordia.ca[/email]
Network and Systems analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Re: SPARC
"Hugo Villeneuve" <hugo@EINTR.net> wrote in message
news:1iljfoo.492ia512y7jggN%hugo@EINTR.net...[color=blue]
> philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > "Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
> > news:slrnga1aev.f8v.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=darkred]
> > > philo wrote:
> > >[/color]
> >
> > My next problem is setting up the X-server.
> >
> > When I used to run Slackware on my i386 machine I generally set it up
> > manually,
> > and though it took me a while...I always got things sorted out.
> >
> > Now I see there is Xorg to make things easy.
> >[/color]
>
>
> On a old SPARCstation 5? X should be configless. There is like only 5-6
> possible video card and 1-2 mouse type and everything is well identified
> in the PROM device tree.
>
> On 32 bits sparc, you usually have single zylog chip doing 4 serial
> ports. 2 are use for the keyboard/mouse combo and 2 are available as
> serial A/B.
>
>[color=green]
> > Unfortunately, a ton of the H/W that was ported over was for i386
> > and it took me a while to actually get a Sun video card installed,
> > but I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> > error.[/color]
>
> You have a SPARCstation 5 or a SPARC64 system with a PCI bus?
>[/color]
32 bit
this one
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation_5[/url]
[color=blue][color=green]
> >[/color][/color]
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Re: [OT] SPARC
"Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote in message
news:slrnga3hla.6jv.syl@charlotte.concordia.ca...[color=blue]
> I'm marking this followup off-topic, since Splack, despite being based
> on Slackware, is not Slackware.
>
> philo wrote:
>[color=green]
> > My next problem is setting up the X-server.
> > ...
> > ... I still cannot boot to the GUI due to a "no pointing device found"
> > error.[/color]
>
> I'm only guessing here, as I haven't been in front of my Sparc systems
> for a long time, and as I noted in an earlier message, I have no
> experience at all with Splack, but it sounds to me again like you
> probably have a driver missing. (or at least the X server isn't able to
> access the driver)
>
> Can you see any reference to the mouse device in dmesg output?
> Can you show which (modularized) device drivers are loaded? I don't
> recall which device driver the Sun mouse needs. A quick look at
> drivers/input/mouse/Kconfig on a relatively recent kernel tree, though,
> shows this, which might help:
>
> config MOUSE_SERIAL
> tristate "Serial mouse"
> select SERIO
> help
> Say Y here if you have a serial (RS-232, COM port) mouse
> connected to your system. This includes Sun, MouseSystems,
> Microsoft, Logitech and all other compatible serial mice.
>
> Indeed drivers/input/mouse/sermouse.c is the only source file with
> reference to the Sun mouse protocol.
>
> If you are able to confirm that the kernel finds the mouse at boot-time,
> and are sure the driver is loaded, check also for the correct device
> file. Documentation/devices.txt shows the following for a Sun mouse:
>
> 10 char Non-serial mice, misc features
> ...
> 6 = /dev/sunmouse Sun mouse
>
> I hope this helps ...
>[/color]
Thanks for the reply...I am heading out of town soon,
so will not be able to fool with the machine for a while...
but I'll copy this to my notes!