Huub <"v.niekerk at hccnet.nl"> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
> RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
> message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently
> the partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
> trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each
> time I get "disk full".
> Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
> partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of
> a WiFi adapter I want to try out.
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Not really, but just a thought - did you format the partition as part of
the install? If not then Salckware may be trying to install on something
that IS full?


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> Currently the
> partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB).

only 100mb for / ???



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Huub wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
> RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
> message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently
> the partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
> trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each
> time I get "disk full".
> Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
> partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of
> a WiFi adapter I want to try out.
>
I (probably) over partition my machines. This list (from /df -h/) may
give you some help figuring out what you need where

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 4.7G 386M 4.3G 9% /
/dev/sda5 4.7G 3.7G 1.1G 78% /usr
/dev/sda6 4.7G 2.9G 1.8G 62% /usr/local
/dev/sda7 4.7G 996M 3.7G 21% /home
/dev/sda8 9.4G 6.6G 2.8G 71% /opt
/dev/sda9 4.7G 489M 4.2G 11% /var
/dev/sda10 9.4G 1.8G 7.6G 19% /var/lib/mysql
/dev/sda11 47G 564M 47G 2% /spare00
/dev/sda12 47G 1.4G 46G 3% /spare01
/dev/sda13 47G 3.6G 44G 8% /spare02
/dev/sda14 41G 23G 19G 55% /var/lib/vmware
/dev/sda1 9.8G 6.9G 3.0G 70% /fat-c
tmpfs 503M 0 503M 0% /dev/shm

Now this is a full-boat Slackware 12 installation (with X), and it has a
lot of stuff in //opt/ but it looks like root needs at least 400M?

Hope this helps.

> I (probably) over partition my machines. This list (from /df -h/) may
> give you some help figuring out what you need where
>
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda2 4.7G 386M 4.3G 9% /
> /dev/sda5 4.7G 3.7G 1.1G 78% /usr
> /dev/sda6 4.7G 2.9G 1.8G 62% /usr/local
> /dev/sda7 4.7G 996M 3.7G 21% /home
> /dev/sda8 9.4G 6.6G 2.8G 71% /opt
> /dev/sda9 4.7G 489M 4.2G 11% /var
> /dev/sda10 9.4G 1.8G 7.6G 19% /var/lib/mysql
> /dev/sda11 47G 564M 47G 2% /spare00
> /dev/sda12 47G 1.4G 46G 3% /spare01
> /dev/sda13 47G 3.6G 44G 8% /spare02
> /dev/sda14 41G 23G 19G 55% /var/lib/vmware
> /dev/sda1 9.8G 6.9G 3.0G 70% /fat-c
> tmpfs 503M 0 503M 0% /dev/shm
>
> Now this is a full-boat Slackware 12 installation (with X), and it has a
> lot of stuff in //opt/ but it looks like root needs at least 400M?
>
> Hope this helps.

Ok, this explains a lot. Also that I won't install Slack 12 on this
machine. Back to Slack 11. Thanks for the info.

Huub wrote:
>>
> Ok, this explains a lot. Also that I won't install Slack 12 on this
> machine. Back to Slack 11. Thanks for the info.
Maybe I didn't quite say it right -- I've got a GIS system (which is
huge) along with really huge geographic data files (one directory is
3.6G), OpenOffice, and a lot of non-distribution stuff in /opt -- you
ought to be able to install all of Slackware 12 (it's not that much
bigger than 11) in 20G without a problem (20G is, after all, a lot of
gig!). I don't install any add-on software in /usr (if I can help it),
preferring to install in /usr/local (which is a mounted partition). Just
make your root partition a little bigger, perhaps? Remember that some
stuff got moved around between 11 and 12. I have a laptop that I didn't
bother to partition (other than root and swap) and, with all the GIS and
other add-on stuff, the total use is 19G (the GIS data adds up to
roughly 5G). And, if you don't install X, well I'd think you'd have
plenty of space.

Just a thought.

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:36:29 +0200, Huub wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
> RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
> message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently the
> partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
> trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each time
> I get "disk full".
> Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
> partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of a
> WiFi adapter I want to try out.
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot of
things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.



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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:09:18 -0500, Dan C wrote:

> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot
> of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
> suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.

Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
really wasting space.

[duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
/dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
/dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
/dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
/dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm

On 04/30/08 15:09, Dan C wrote:

> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A
> lot of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of
> / ). I'd suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem
> solved.

100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
different ones.

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:20 +0000, Giovanni wrote:

>> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A
>> lot of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of
>> / ). I'd suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem
>> solved.

> 100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
> installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
> different ones.

Well, no ****. Do you think most people do that? I don't.

Clearly the OP doesn't, and my answer was tailored to his question.


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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:

>> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot
>> of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
>> suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.

> Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
> really wasting space.
>
> [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
> /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
> /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
> /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
> /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
> tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm

That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.



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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:20 +0000, Giovanni wrote:

> 100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
> installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
> different ones.

Bzzzzzxt!

[root@einstein /]# du -sk bin boot dev etc lib root sbin
7756 bin
25052 boot
2572 dev
10948 etc
182560 lib
168 root
13976 sbin

On 2008-04-30, Dan C wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:
>
>> Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
>> really wasting space.
>>
>> [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
>> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>> /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
>> /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
>> /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
>> /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
>> /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
>> tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm
>
> That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
> would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
> out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
> have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
> answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
> clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.

Yes, but he does have a separate /usr (and IIRC /home), and assuming
that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
/opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling
up /, he should split that out now rather than using a 5GB /.

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Keith Keller wrote:
>
> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling

I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

- Kurt

~kurt says:
>Keith Keller wrote:
>>
>> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
>> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling

>I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
>put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
>partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

The secret was to keep /opt on the outside rings of the hard drive,
where the bits are longer.

cordially, as always,

rm

On 2008-05-01, ~kurt wrote:
> Keith Keller wrote:
>>
>> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
>> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling
>
> I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
> put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
> partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

mv /opt /usr
mkdir /usr/opt
mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
(and add the appropriate fstab line)

/usr is going to be a larger partition, and both /usr and /opt hold the
same type stuff, so there's not generally a good reason to have both.

-RW

On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman wrote:
>
> mv /opt /usr
> mkdir /usr/opt

ITYM
mkdir /opt

> mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
> (and add the appropriate fstab line)

I prefer

mv /opt /usr
ln -s /usr/opt /opt

No extra mount involved.

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OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
/dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
says:

Killed
root@slackware:/# Killed
Killed
(no prompt, just cursor)

System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:

df:

/: 2%
/usr 8%
/home: 2%

Any clue what's happening?

Thanks.

On 2008-05-01, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman wrote:
>>
>> mv /opt /usr
>> mkdir /usr/opt
>
> ITYM
> mkdir /opt


Indeed I did - thanks.


>> mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
>> (and add the appropriate fstab line)
>
> I prefer
>
> mv /opt /usr
> ln -s /usr/opt /opt
>
> No extra mount involved.


I recall some issue (but no specifics) that something had with the
symlink. It could have been backups, or it could have been something
else - I don't remember now, as I've been doing that since 11.0.
Either one is fine for most people, but the bind mount is best IMHO.

-RW

On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:03:29 +0200, Huub wrote:

> OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
> /dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
> GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
> packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
> and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
> says:
>
> Killed
> root@slackware:/# Killed
> Killed
> (no prompt, just cursor)
>
> System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:
>
> df:
>
> /: 2%
> /usr 8%
> /home: 2%
>
> Any clue what's happening?

My guess would be not enough RAM. Somehow I think I remember newer
versions of Slack requiring 64Mb, but not certain.



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