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  1. Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    Hi,

    I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
    RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
    message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently the
    partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
    trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each time
    I get "disk full".
    Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
    partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of a
    WiFi adapter I want to try out.

    Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

    Thanks.

  2. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    Huub <"v.niekerk at hccnet.nl"> writes:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
    > RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
    > message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently
    > the partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
    > trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each
    > time I get "disk full".
    > Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
    > partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of
    > a WiFi adapter I want to try out.
    >
    > Any idea what I'm doing wrong?


    Not really, but just a thought - did you format the partition as part of
    the install? If not then Salckware may be trying to install on something
    that IS full?


    atb






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  3. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?


    > Currently the
    > partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB).


    only 100mb for / ???



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  4. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    Huub wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
    > RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
    > message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently
    > the partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
    > trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each
    > time I get "disk full".
    > Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
    > partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of
    > a WiFi adapter I want to try out.
    >

    I (probably) over partition my machines. This list (from /df -h/) may
    give you some help figuring out what you need where

    Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    /dev/sda2 4.7G 386M 4.3G 9% /
    /dev/sda5 4.7G 3.7G 1.1G 78% /usr
    /dev/sda6 4.7G 2.9G 1.8G 62% /usr/local
    /dev/sda7 4.7G 996M 3.7G 21% /home
    /dev/sda8 9.4G 6.6G 2.8G 71% /opt
    /dev/sda9 4.7G 489M 4.2G 11% /var
    /dev/sda10 9.4G 1.8G 7.6G 19% /var/lib/mysql
    /dev/sda11 47G 564M 47G 2% /spare00
    /dev/sda12 47G 1.4G 46G 3% /spare01
    /dev/sda13 47G 3.6G 44G 8% /spare02
    /dev/sda14 41G 23G 19G 55% /var/lib/vmware
    /dev/sda1 9.8G 6.9G 3.0G 70% /fat-c
    tmpfs 503M 0 503M 0% /dev/shm

    Now this is a full-boat Slackware 12 installation (with X), and it has a
    lot of stuff in //opt/ but it looks like root needs at least 400M?

    Hope this helps.

  5. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    > I (probably) over partition my machines. This list (from /df -h/) may
    > give you some help figuring out what you need where
    >
    > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    > /dev/sda2 4.7G 386M 4.3G 9% /
    > /dev/sda5 4.7G 3.7G 1.1G 78% /usr
    > /dev/sda6 4.7G 2.9G 1.8G 62% /usr/local
    > /dev/sda7 4.7G 996M 3.7G 21% /home
    > /dev/sda8 9.4G 6.6G 2.8G 71% /opt
    > /dev/sda9 4.7G 489M 4.2G 11% /var
    > /dev/sda10 9.4G 1.8G 7.6G 19% /var/lib/mysql
    > /dev/sda11 47G 564M 47G 2% /spare00
    > /dev/sda12 47G 1.4G 46G 3% /spare01
    > /dev/sda13 47G 3.6G 44G 8% /spare02
    > /dev/sda14 41G 23G 19G 55% /var/lib/vmware
    > /dev/sda1 9.8G 6.9G 3.0G 70% /fat-c
    > tmpfs 503M 0 503M 0% /dev/shm
    >
    > Now this is a full-boat Slackware 12 installation (with X), and it has a
    > lot of stuff in //opt/ but it looks like root needs at least 400M?
    >
    > Hope this helps.


    Ok, this explains a lot. Also that I won't install Slack 12 on this
    machine. Back to Slack 11. Thanks for the info.

  6. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    Huub wrote:
    >>

    > Ok, this explains a lot. Also that I won't install Slack 12 on this
    > machine. Back to Slack 11. Thanks for the info.

    Maybe I didn't quite say it right -- I've got a GIS system (which is
    huge) along with really huge geographic data files (one directory is
    3.6G), OpenOffice, and a lot of non-distribution stuff in /opt -- you
    ought to be able to install all of Slackware 12 (it's not that much
    bigger than 11) in 20G without a problem (20G is, after all, a lot of
    gig!). I don't install any add-on software in /usr (if I can help it),
    preferring to install in /usr/local (which is a mounted partition). Just
    make your root partition a little bigger, perhaps? Remember that some
    stuff got moved around between 11 and 12. I have a laptop that I didn't
    bother to partition (other than root and swap) and, with all the GIS and
    other add-on stuff, the total use is 19G (the GIS data adds up to
    roughly 5G). And, if you don't install X, well I'd think you'd have
    plenty of space.

    Just a thought.

  7. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:36:29 +0200, Huub wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm trying to install Slack 12 on an old machine with 20 GB hdd/32 MB
    > RAM. No matter how large I make /usr, the installation keeps giving a
    > message like "cannot write to disk because disk is full". Currently the
    > partitioning is / (100 MB), /usr (15 GB), /home ((5 GB). I've been
    > trying to install Expert (leaving out X) and Full, but so far each time
    > I get "disk full".
    > Previously, I installed Slack 11 without a problem using a similar
    > partitioning as above, but found out I needed a 2.6 kernel because of a
    > WiFi adapter I want to try out.
    >
    > Any idea what I'm doing wrong?


    Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot of
    things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
    suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.



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  8. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:09:18 -0500, Dan C wrote:

    > Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot
    > of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
    > suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.


    Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
    really wasting space.

    [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
    Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
    /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
    /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
    /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
    /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
    tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm

  9. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On 04/30/08 15:09, Dan C wrote:

    > Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A
    > lot of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of
    > / ). I'd suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem
    > solved.


    100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
    installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
    different ones.

    Ciao
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  10. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:20 +0000, Giovanni wrote:

    >> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A
    >> lot of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of
    >> / ). I'd suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem
    >> solved.


    > 100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
    > installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
    > different ones.


    Well, no ****. Do you think most people do that? I don't.

    Clearly the OP doesn't, and my answer was tailored to his question.


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  11. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:

    >> Isn't it obvious? A 100Mb / partition is not nearly big enough. A lot
    >> of things get installed in / (or in subdirs which come off of / ). I'd
    >> suggest making / about 5G and reduce /usr to 10G. Problem solved.


    > Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
    > really wasting space.
    >
    > [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
    > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    > /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
    > /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
    > /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
    > /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
    > /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
    > tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm


    That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
    would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
    out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
    have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
    answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
    clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.



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  12. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:20 +0000, Giovanni wrote:

    > 100 MB are more than enough for a root partition in a (almost) full
    > installation if you put /boot, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var on
    > different ones.


    Bzzzzzxt!

    [root@einstein /]# du -sk bin boot dev etc lib root sbin
    7756 bin
    25052 boot
    2572 dev
    10948 etc
    182560 lib
    168 root
    13976 sbin

  13. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On 2008-04-30, Dan C wrote:
    > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:32:27 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:
    >
    >> Slackware-current as of a few days ago on a 36GB drive. 5GB for / is
    >> really wasting space.
    >>
    >> [duhring@maxwell ~]$ df
    >> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    >> /dev/sda1 2536028K 249748K 2286280K 10% /
    >> /dev/sda5 766288K 55288K 711000K 8% /var
    >> /dev/sda6 7323400K 4061720K 3261680K 56% /usr
    >> /dev/sda7 1949656K 525848K 1423808K 27% /opt
    >> /dev/sda8 22150780K 2519668K 19631112K 12% /home
    >> tmpfs 1002728K 0K 1002728K 0% /dev/shm

    >
    > That's fine, if you intend to split out all those partitions like that. I
    > would have to guess that most folks don't do that. For example, I split
    > out swap and /home, but nothing else, and therefore my / partition would
    > have to be quite large (to accommodate /var, /usr, /opt, etc, etc.). My
    > answer to the OP was intended for him to correct his problem, as he
    > clearly doesn't seperate all those partitions.


    Yes, but he does have a separate /usr (and IIRC /home), and assuming
    that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
    /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling
    up /, he should split that out now rather than using a 5GB /.

    --keith

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  14. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    Keith Keller wrote:
    >
    > that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
    > /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling


    I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
    put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
    partition now days because I found some other uses for it....

    - Kurt


  15. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    ~kurt says:
    >Keith Keller wrote:
    >>
    >> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
    >> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling


    >I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
    >put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
    >partition now days because I found some other uses for it....


    The secret was to keep /opt on the outside rings of the hard drive,
    where the bits are longer.

    cordially, as always,

    rm

  16. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On 2008-05-01, ~kurt wrote:
    > Keith Keller wrote:
    >>
    >> that /var is not very full yet, the only issue is accomodating / and
    >> /opt. So 5GB is still way overkill. If the OP anticipates /var filling

    >
    > I remember running out of hard drive space when all the KDE stuff was
    > put in /opt. I guess it isn't in /opt anymore - I still keep it as a separate
    > partition now days because I found some other uses for it....


    mv /opt /usr
    mkdir /usr/opt
    mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
    (and add the appropriate fstab line)

    /usr is going to be a larger partition, and both /usr and /opt hold the
    same type stuff, so there's not generally a good reason to have both.

    -RW

  17. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman wrote:
    >
    > mv /opt /usr
    > mkdir /usr/opt


    ITYM
    mkdir /opt

    > mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
    > (and add the appropriate fstab line)


    I prefer

    mv /opt /usr
    ln -s /usr/opt /opt

    No extra mount involved.

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  18. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
    /dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
    GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
    packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
    and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
    says:

    Killed
    root@slackware:/# Killed
    Killed
    (no prompt, just cursor)

    System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:

    df:

    /: 2%
    /usr 8%
    /home: 2%

    Any clue what's happening?

    Thanks.

  19. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On 2008-05-01, Keith Keller wrote:
    > On 2008-05-01, Robby Workman wrote:
    >>
    >> mv /opt /usr
    >> mkdir /usr/opt

    >
    > ITYM
    > mkdir /opt



    Indeed I did - thanks.


    >> mount --bind /usr/opt /opt
    >> (and add the appropriate fstab line)

    >
    > I prefer
    >
    > mv /opt /usr
    > ln -s /usr/opt /opt
    >
    > No extra mount involved.



    I recall some issue (but no specifics) that something had with the
    symlink. It could have been backups, or it could have been something
    else - I don't remember now, as I've been doing that since 11.0.
    Either one is fine for most people, but the bind mount is best IMHO.

    -RW

  20. Re: Slack 12 + 20GB HDD: disk full during install?

    On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:03:29 +0200, Huub wrote:

    > OK, I'm up to my xth time of installing Slack 12. Partitioning:
    > /dev/hda1: / 5 GB, /dev/hda2: swap 64MB (RAM: 32MB), /dev/hda3: /usr 10
    > GB, /dev/hda4: /home (rest of disk). Installing only the necessary
    > packages, leaving out X, audio/video and games. Leaving in some compiler
    > and programming packages. At some point (right now: installing ruby) it
    > says:
    >
    > Killed
    > root@slackware:/# Killed
    > Killed
    > (no prompt, just cursor)
    >
    > System doesn't hang. Alt-F2 screen:
    >
    > df:
    >
    > /: 2%
    > /usr 8%
    > /home: 2%
    >
    > Any clue what's happening?


    My guess would be not enough RAM. Somehow I think I remember newer
    versions of Slack requiring 64Mb, but not certain.



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