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  1. Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    Hello,

    Slackware 11.0

    When I booted up earlier tonight, I noticed the screen said it was doing a
    'check forced' . It made it through hdd1 ( / ) but had to make changes
    while checking hdd3 ( /home ). After it completed it recommended
    running fsck. Actually, I missed this last part the first time it booted. I
    tried to start X and it did but my icons were huge and stuff was missing.
    I moved the mouse to exit out of my session and everything hung. Then
    the screen went black ( except for an X on the screen ). And that is when
    my nightmare started. I restarted the computer and each time it booted
    it went through 'check forced'. Sometimes hdd1 cleared fine and hdd3
    would need to be fixed here and there and other times both hdd1 and hdd3
    needed fixes. In each case it was always recommended that I run fsck,
    which has been going on at least 8 times by now.

    If I log on as root, I can start X with no apparent problems. Everything
    seems to work fine ( although the audio file no longer plays when has
    has comlpeted starting ). But if I try to log onto my account and start X,
    things are missing and things get hung.

    Can someone please tell me what I might try now.. Do I need to keep
    doing 'fsck' and rebooting as it keeps suggesting or is there something
    else for me to try... ?

    = Paul =

  2. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:44:13 -0500, pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    >Slackware 11.0
    >
    > When I booted up earlier tonight, I noticed the screen said it was doing a
    >'check forced' . It made it through hdd1 ( / ) but had to make changes
    >while checking hdd3 ( /home ).


    Does the disk have to be slave on the ribbon? This is poor choice for
    hard drive and often leads to errors, hard drive should be master device
    on end of ribbon (hda or hdc).

    Try 'smartctl -a /dev/hdd' and check for overheating, CRC errors and/or
    reallocated sectors.

    You may need to zero /dev/hddX where X is partition number, then format
    and restore from backup, or start over...

    Grant.
    --
    http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/

  3. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:44:13 -0500, pauljdudley wrote:

    > If I log on as root, I can start X with no apparent problems. Everything
    > seems to work fine ( although the audio file no longer plays when has
    > has comlpeted starting ). But if I try to log onto my account and start
    > X, things are missing and things get hung.


    You can log on as root because /root is on the / partition, but the /home
    partition is hosed.

    From what you described, I'd say your disk is a very short way from
    death. Get a liveCD and extract all important data to an external disk
    NOW (I already know you don't have backups, because who ever has
    backups?) because although I may be wrong, you have to ask yourself, what
    if Mark is right?

  4. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    Mark South wrote:
    >From what you described, I'd say your disk is a very short way from
    >death.


    Has my vote, too. Once they start to go, it's quickly downhill.

    -Beej


  5. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    On 2008-01-28, Mark South wrote:
    > From what you described, I'd say your disk is a very short way from
    > death. Get a liveCD and extract all important data to an external disk
    > NOW (I already know you don't have backups, because who ever has
    > backups?)


    Me! I have backups of my backups. I have backups going back to Aug of 2007
    and I have backups of my email going back to 1991.

    ken

  6. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    First off, thank you all for replying.

    I must admit at this point that I am not up to speed with
    Linux. A newbie at best.

    > Does the disk have to be slave on the ribbon?


    Originally I had 1 disk w/Win2k. Then I added a second
    disk ( 8 gig ) for Linux. At the time it was hdb. I wanted
    a larger disk so I purchased a new disk ( last year ) and
    installed it before removing the older one. The new disk
    came up as hdd. I installed Linux on it. But never removed
    the older disk. This way I could copy files from old to new.
    I guess I should have then removed it and moved the new
    one in it's place. But I didn't. I just left it hdd.

    > You may need to zero /dev/hddX where X is partition number,
    > then format and restore from backup, or start over...


    Not sure what is meant or how to accomplish the above. As
    for backups .... I haven't as yet gotten to do one or learn
    how.. ( gulp! ).. I do not as yet have medium to back up to.
    At some point I thought I would use the 8 gig disk for such
    purpose. But no. No backups..

    > Get a liveCD and extract all important data to an external disk


    Can I use k3b to do this with ( over multiple CDs if capable ) ?

    I just now booted Linux to see any errors I could report.
    Some of what I saw went:

    /dev/hdd3 inode xxxxxxxx iblocks is 64, should be 8. FIXED.
    :
    6 MORE
    :
    Duplicate or bad blocks in use
    multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160597: 2164619
    multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160646: 2164619

    and also a complaint about /dudley/.kde/share/config/xxxxx
    (went by to quick to get it all ) would dmesg get all the above ?

    = Paul =


  7. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    I just booted again to try to see anything else to add.

    That business about " Duplicate or bad blocks in use" :
    That was claimed and not chained.
    The two files in question were kdeglobals and kickerrc.

    Could I copy those files off the old disk (hdb) or would
    they be too far out of date ( about a 8 mo. )? I had also thought
    about using said disk to backup hdd to, but /home is now 22 gig
    where hdb is only an 8 gig disk ... I believe that the majority of
    the 22 gig are mp3, oog and flac tunes.


    When I did smartctl -a /dev/hdd, I didn't see anything
    threatening, but then what do I know. I will post it following
    this message.

    = Paul =

  8. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ... SMARTCTL RESULTS

    smartctl version 5.36 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
    Allen
    Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model: WDC WD1600AAJB-00PVA0
    Serial Number: WD-WMAP95895096
    Firmware Version: 00.07H00
    User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
    Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is: 7
    ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
    Local Time is: Mon Jan 28 11:14:35 2008 EST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: (4560) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off
    support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 61) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 6) minutes.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
    WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 160 160 021 Pre-fail Always -
    2958
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 200 200 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always -
    2794
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    30
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    19
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 107 098 000 Old_age Always -
    36
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 200 200 000 Old_age Offline -
    0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 051 Old_age Offline -
    0

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

    smartctl version 5.36 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
    Allen
    Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model: WDC WD1600AAJB-00PVA0
    Serial Number: WD-WMAP95895096
    Firmware Version: 00.07H00
    User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
    Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is: 7
    ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
    Local Time is: Mon Jan 28 11:54:35 2008 EST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: (4560) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off
    support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 61) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 6) minutes.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
    WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 160 160 021 Pre-fail Always -
    2958
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always -
    2795
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    30
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    19
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 106 098 000 Old_age Always -
    37
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 200 200 000 Old_age Offline -
    0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 051 Old_age Offline -
    0

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



  9. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    smartctl version 5.36 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
    Allen
    Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model: WDC WD1600AAJB-00PVA0
    Serial Number: WD-WMAP95895096
    Firmware Version: 00.07H00
    User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
    Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is: 7
    ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
    Local Time is: Mon Jan 28 11:14:35 2008 EST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: (4560) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off
    support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 61) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 6) minutes.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
    WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 160 160 021 Pre-fail Always -
    2958
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 200 200 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always -
    2794
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    30
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    19
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 107 098 000 Old_age Always -
    36
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 200 200 000 Old_age Offline -
    0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 051 Old_age Offline -
    0

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

    smartctl version 5.36 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
    Allen
    Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model: WDC WD1600AAJB-00PVA0
    Serial Number: WD-WMAP95895096
    Firmware Version: 00.07H00
    User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
    Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is: 7
    ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
    Local Time is: Mon Jan 28 11:54:35 2008 EST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: (4560) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off
    support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 61) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 6) minutes.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED
    WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 160 160 021 Pre-fail Always -
    2958
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always -
    0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000e 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always -
    2795
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 253 051 Old_age Always -
    0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always -
    30
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    19
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    31
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 106 098 000 Old_age Always -
    37
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 200 200 000 Old_age Offline -
    0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always -
    0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 051 Old_age Offline -
    0

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



  10. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...


    pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote :

    > If I log on as root, I can start X with no apparent problems.


    Sounds like you has run out of harddrive space in /tmp or /var
    Run 'df -h' to check.
    --
    Thomas O.

    This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

  11. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:04:15 +0100, Thomas Overgaard
    wrote:

    >
    >pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote :
    >
    >> If I log on as root, I can start X with no apparent problems.

    >
    >Sounds like you has run out of harddrive space in /tmp or /var
    >Run 'df -h' to check.


    I had done so earlier just to see what I'm dealing with. It's a 160 gig
    drive and hdd3 (/home) had plenty to spare. Not sure how much,
    but plenty to spare.

    = Paul =

  12. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...


    Well, if anyone is still following this thread, I think the problem is
    solved. J.O. Aho recommended renaming my /.kde directory
    from root and then logging back on as user and that seemed to
    work. Other than a few icon pic replacements, everything else
    seems to be good.

    Gotta go take it for a spin now..

    Thanks again to all who have replied.

    = Paul =


    On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:44:13 -0500, pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    >Slackware 11.0
    >
    > When I booted up earlier tonight, I noticed the screen said it was doing a
    >'check forced' . It made it through hdd1 ( / ) but had to make changes
    >while checking hdd3 ( /home ). After it completed it recommended
    >running fsck. Actually, I missed this last part the first time it booted. I
    >tried to start X and it did but my icons were huge and stuff was missing.
    >I moved the mouse to exit out of my session and everything hung. Then
    >the screen went black ( except for an X on the screen ). And that is when
    >my nightmare started. I restarted the computer and each time it booted
    >it went through 'check forced'. Sometimes hdd1 cleared fine and hdd3
    >would need to be fixed here and there and other times both hdd1 and hdd3
    >needed fixes. In each case it was always recommended that I run fsck,
    >which has been going on at least 8 times by now.
    >
    >If I log on as root, I can start X with no apparent problems. Everything
    >seems to work fine ( although the audio file no longer plays when has
    >has comlpeted starting ). But if I try to log onto my account and start X,
    >things are missing and things get hung.
    >
    >Can someone please tell me what I might try now.. Do I need to keep
    >doing 'fsck' and rebooting as it keeps suggesting or is there something
    >else for me to try... ?
    >
    > = Paul =



  13. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...


    pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote :

    > Aho recommended renaming my /.kde directory from root and then logging
    > back on as user and that seemed to work.


    Strange, I've only seen this happen when upgrading KDE from one major
    version number to another.
    --
    Thomas O.

    This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

  14. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    Thomas Overgaard wrote in news:ktk475-4g4.ln1
    @news.inet.tele.dk:

    >
    > pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote :
    >
    >> Aho recommended renaming my /.kde directory from root and then logging
    >> back on as user and that seemed to work.

    >
    > Strange, I've only seen this happen when upgrading KDE from one major
    > version number to another.


    In another reply pauljdudley said of the boot messages:
    > Duplicate or bad blocks in use
    > multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160597: 2164619
    > multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160646: 2164619
    >
    > and also a complaint about /dudley/.kde/share/config/xxxxx
    > (went by to quick to get it all ) would dmesg get all the above ?


    Wouldn't the above indicate that he had problems in the ~/.kde directory
    structure and that renaming .kde to something else simply removed the
    problem from KDE's domain without necessarily fixing the problems with the
    file structure?

    Admittedly, I'm reaching a bit as I haven't had occasion to learn the
    ins/outs of exactly what fsck fixes since I (knock on wood) haven't had
    corrupted filesystems yet.

    --
    The email address, above, is most certainly munged. Perhaps you
    might reply to the newsgroup, instead? Thanks!

  15. Re: Booting up - keeps telling me to run fsck ...

    On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:46:47 +0000, james wrote:

    > Thomas Overgaard wrote in news:ktk475-4g4.ln1
    > @news.inet.tele.dk:
    >
    >>
    >> pauljdudley@earthlink.net wrote :
    >>
    >>> Aho recommended renaming my /.kde directory from root and then logging
    >>> back on as user and that seemed to work.

    >>
    >> Strange, I've only seen this happen when upgrading KDE from one major
    >> version number to another.

    >
    > In another reply pauljdudley said of the boot messages:
    >> Duplicate or bad blocks in use
    >> multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160597: 2164619
    >> multiply - chained block(s) in inode 2160646: 2164619
    >>
    >> and also a complaint about /dudley/.kde/share/config/xxxxx
    >> (went by to quick to get it all ) would dmesg get all the above ?

    >
    > Wouldn't the above indicate that he had problems in the ~/.kde directory
    > structure and that renaming .kde to something else simply removed the
    > problem from KDE's domain without necessarily fixing the problems with the
    > file structure?
    >
    > Admittedly, I'm reaching a bit as I haven't had occasion to learn the
    > ins/outs of exactly what fsck fixes since I (knock on wood) haven't had
    > corrupted filesystems yet.


    Not sure, but the bootup goes ok now. No more fsck recommendation. It
    checks hdd3 unmounted, says hdd3 clean, then mounts it.

    = Paul =

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