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  1. Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    I'm well into the process of moving from Windows to Linux. I can
    handle most of the problems myself, but there are a handful that have
    me fairly baffled. I thought I'd post a few of them over the next
    month and see if anyone here has a thought.

    Problem 1: I have an AcerPower 1000 with one of those $#%@) Broadcom
    Wireless chips that doesn't work with the Linux Broadcom driver.
    Against all odds, ndisdriver actually works and it only took be about
    16 hours to set it up. Worked fine under Slackware 11. On Slackware
    12.0, it works ... except ...

    If I run the following commands manually, everything is fine:

    modprobe ndiswrapper
    modprobe ndiswrapper ESSID51 WRT54GK
    ifconfig eth0 down
    ifconfig wlan0 up
    #iwconfig wlan0 ESSID WRT54GK #This doesn't help
    #iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:18:F8:BD:59:78 #Nor does this
    dhcpcd wlan0

    If I run the same commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, the wireless
    interface works but instead of connecting to the router called
    WRT54GK, it picks a router according to some set of arbitrary rules
    that are opaque to me. Sometimes it is WRT54GK and everything is
    fine. Sometimes it is my kid's router which has a different ID and is
    on a different subnet. Not so good. So mostly I just use the wired
    eth0 interface.

    iwlist scanning shows both routers.

    Someday I'd like to get rid of the 50 foot patch cable running under
    beds, through a closet and across the hall.

    Anyone have any thoughts?

  2. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12


    vtcodger wrote :

    > Anyone have any thoughts?


    Take a look at the wireless section of /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf its here
    ndiswrapper should be loaded from and all setting like ESSID are read
    from here.
    --
    Thomas O.

    This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

  3. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    vtcodger says:

    >I'm well into the process of moving from Windows to Linux.


    The enlightened user doesn't "move" from windows to linux. The
    enlightened user uses the OS best suited to the task at hand.

    >I can handle most of the problems myself, but there are a handful
    >that have me fairly baffled. I thought I'd post a few of them over
    >the next month and see if anyone here has a thought.


    >Problem 1: I have an AcerPower 1000 with one of those $#%@) Broadcom
    >Wireless chips that doesn't work with the Linux Broadcom driver.
    >Against all odds, ndisdriver actually works and it only took be about
    >16 hours to set it up. Worked fine under Slackware 11. On Slackware
    >12.0, it works ... except ...


    Why did you change from 11 to 12? Perhaps you should simply go back
    to 11? Or perhaps you should just stay with windows in the fist
    place?

    >If I run the following commands manually, everything is fine:


    >modprobe ndiswrapper
    >modprobe ndiswrapper ESSID51 WRT54GK
    >ifconfig eth0 down
    >ifconfig wlan0 up
    >#iwconfig wlan0 ESSID WRT54GK #This doesn't help
    >#iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:18:F8:BD:59:78 #Nor does this
    >dhcpcd wlan0


    >If I run the same commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, the wireless
    >interface works but instead of connecting to the router called
    >WRT54GK, it picks a router according to some set of arbitrary rules
    >that are opaque to me. Sometimes it is WRT54GK and everything is
    >fine. Sometimes it is my kid's router which has a different ID and is
    >on a different subnet. Not so good. So mostly I just use the wired
    >eth0 interface.


    The rules aren't "arbitrary." Nothing in computing is ever
    "arbitrary", be definition.

    If your purpose is to connect to the internet and your system does
    it fine using windoze, then there is no reason to change to linux.
    And, if you do need to change, there is no reason to change from
    Slackware 11 to 12 if 11 works ok. And according to you, 11 works
    ok.

    cordially, as always,

    rm

  4. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    vtcodger wrote:
    [ . . ]
    > If I run the same commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, the wireless
    > interface works but instead of connecting to the router called
    > WRT54GK, it picks a router according to some set of arbitrary rules
    > that are opaque to me. Sometimes it is WRT54GK and everything is
    > fine. Sometimes it is my kid's router which has a different ID and is
    > on a different subnet. Not so good.


    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...k-12.0-613623/

    (from several different) Specifically told it to hook Netgear, thus:

    iwconfig ath0 essid NETGEAR

    I think I put that line in rc.inet1.conf

    I don't use rc.local for wireless

    --
    Joe abc


  5. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On 2008-01-22, Alan_C wrote:
    > vtcodger wrote:
    > [ . . ]
    >> If I run the same commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, the wireless
    >> interface works but instead of connecting to the router called
    >> WRT54GK, it picks a router according to some set of arbitrary rules
    >> that are opaque to me. Sometimes it is WRT54GK and everything is
    >> fine. Sometimes it is my kid's router which has a different ID and is
    >> on a different subnet. Not so good.

    >
    > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...k-12.0-613623/
    >
    > (from several different) Specifically told it to hook Netgear, thus:
    >
    > iwconfig ath0 essid NETGEAR
    >
    > I think I put that line in rc.inet1.conf
    >
    > I don't use rc.local for wireless
    >


    Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?

    A living legend!

    If so, I can see why he hates you: you obviously know something about
    computers and aren't intimidated by him, two unforgivable sins in
    what passes for his mind.

    Salute,

    Tom

    --
    calhobbit
    at gee mail dot com


  6. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:28:08 -0800, Alan_C wrote:

    >> Are you the famous Alan Connor


    > Nope. My last name begins with a C but it is not Connor. I guess I'm need
    > to rid my thing of Alan_C


    Yeah, I'd change it. The dickmunch that you're responding to is the
    "real" Alan Connor, and thinks nobody actually knows it. He's a
    delusional fool. You don't want to be confused with him, trust me.


    --
    "Tom N" - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
    Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
    http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml


  7. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:10:52 +0100, Tom N wrote:



    > Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?


    Dan C doesn't "hate" him, he just laughs at him for the fool he is.

    Which is you, "Tom N", who is really "Alan Connor". You're not fooling
    anyone.

    > A living legend!


    An utter and complete moron.


    --
    "Tom N" - the latest nymshift of "Alan Connor".
    Read more about the netkook Alan Connor here:
    http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml


  8. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On 2008-01-22, Alan_C wrote:
    > Tom N wrote:
    >
    >> On 2008-01-22, Alan_C wrote:
    >>> vtcodger wrote:
    >>> [ . . ]

    > [ . . ]
    >
    >> Are you the famous Alan Connor

    >
    > Nope. My last name begins with a C but it is not Connor. I guess I'm need
    > to rid my thing of Alan_C


    I don't see why.

    I'm probably the only person around who didn't recognize your handle.

    Even "Dan C" obviously does, or you'd have baen barraged by now by him
    under a half-dozen names.

    >
    > Too many Alan's around here. (signing Joe did not help)


    I saw that, but it didn't make sense to me. Because of what
    was in your from header. I figured it was some kind of
    inside joke.

    >
    > [ . . ]
    >


    Thanks,

    Tom

    --
    calhobbit
    at gee mail dot com


  9. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    Tom N wrote:

    > On 2008-01-22, Alan_C wrote:
    >> vtcodger wrote:
    >> [ . . ]

    [ . . ]

    > Are you the famous Alan Connor


    Nope. My last name begins with a C but it is not Connor. I guess I'm need
    to rid my thing of Alan_C

    Too many Alan's around here. (signing Joe did not help)

    [ . . ]

    --
    rumplestiltskin aka Joe abc


  10. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    Alan_C wrote:

    > vtcodger wrote:
    > [ . . ]

    [ . . ]
    > (from several different) Specifically told it to hook Netgear, thus:
    >
    > iwconfig ath0 essid NETGEAR
    >
    > I think I put that line in rc.inet1.conf


    I recalled that I haven't put that line anywhere yet.

    That line is a command I ran in xterm (konsole) as root. It works. From
    several different broadcasting wireless routers, it hooks up only to the
    specified router.

    But I also recalled that I'm using the madwifi driver and tools whereas you
    reported ndis in your case.

    Thus you may need to discover if equivalents to the (above, ie iwconfig)
    listed madwifi tools command exist for or when using ndis. Or, are some of
    the tools interchangeable back and forth between ndis and madwifi?

    I didn't care to "fool" Linux into using a Windows driver (ndis).

    So I looked the Linux HCL for wireless card and then got my pcmcia card.

    --
    Joe abc


  11. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    Alan_C wrote:

    > vtcodger wrote:
    > [ . . ]

    [ . . ]
    > iwconfig ath0 essid NETGEAR


    Didn't I have to go:

    ifconfig ath0 up

    (wlan0 for you rather than ath0)

    first, before the above iwconfig command. I can't remember and laptop is
    not on at the moment.

    I just saw your orig post once again, that you had it working using
    modprobe.

    I'm not up on ndis and the difference in the tools commands between madwifi
    and ndis.

    I'm unaware if your listed modprobe command is totally correct or not. (I
    *do question* it since modprobe loads kernel module).

    Probably you need to verify about the correct command/method in ndis to tell
    it to hook up only to a certain router.

    Where's the ndis doc/man/howto's/articles at?

    --
    Joe abc


  12. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:10:52 +0100, Tom N wrote:

    > Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?


    It just occurred to me how similar the names Dan C and Tom N are.
    Neither use periods after their last initial, both of which are
    consonants. They both have three-letter first names,
    consonant-vowel-consonant. The names are common nicknames for Daniel and
    Thomas, which both have six letters in them. If you take their names, add
    a "u", an rearrange them, you get "damn count." Is it more likely that
    those are all coincidences, or that Dan C == Tom N?

    --
    Chick Tower

    For e-mail: aols2 DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net


  13. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:14:09 -0600, Chick Tower wrote:

    > It just occurred to me how similar the names Dan C and Tom N are.
    > Neither use periods after their last initial, both of which are
    > consonants. They both have three-letter first names,
    > consonant-vowel-consonant. The names are common nicknames for Daniel and
    > Thomas, which both have six letters in them. If you take their names, add
    > a "u", an rearrange them, you get "damn count." Is it more likely that
    > those are all coincidences, or that Dan C == Tom N?


    LOL! Nope. Get a clue.

    Is that you again, ANC?


    --
    "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  14. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On 2008-01-25, Chick Tower wrote:
    > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:10:52 +0100, Tom N wrote:
    >
    >> Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?

    >
    > It just occurred to me how similar the names Dan C and Tom N are.
    > Neither use periods after their last initial, both of which are
    > consonants. They both have three-letter first names,
    > consonant-vowel-consonant. The names are common nicknames for Daniel and
    > Thomas, which both have six letters in them. If you take their names, add
    > a "u", an rearrange them, you get "damn count." Is it more likely that
    > those are all coincidences, or that Dan C == Tom N?
    >


    It just occurred to me, after reading this and several other recent posts
    of yours (not the ones on the troll bait threads) that you
    are a just another motormouthed ****ing punk who ****s on the internet
    when he doesn't have anything better to do.

    You will now get out of my newsreader and stay out.

    Talk to Dan C. He's just your speed.

    Tom

    --
    calhobbit
    at gee mail dot com


  15. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    Hallo, Chick,

    Du meintest am 24.01.08:

    >> Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?


    > It just occurred to me how similar the names Dan C and Tom N are.


    They are trolls. Why do you feed them?

    Viele Gruesse
    Helmut

    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  16. Re: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12

    On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:16:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:

    > Hallo, Chick,
    >
    > Du meintest am 24.01.08:
    >
    >>> Are you the famous Alan Connor that "Dan C" hates so much?

    >
    >> It just occurred to me how similar the names Dan C and Tom N are.

    >
    > They are trolls. Why do you feed them?
    >
    > Viele Gruesse
    > Helmut
    >
    > "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


    I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.

    Oh, and: you signature got b0rk3n.

  17. Trolls (was: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12)

    Hallo, Mark,

    Du meintest am 25.01.08:

    >> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?


    > I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.


    May be.
    I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
    mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.

    No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much trolls.
    That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.

    Viele Gruesse
    Helmut

    "Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".


  18. Re: Trolls (was: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12)

    On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:39:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:

    > Hallo, Mark,
    >
    > Du meintest am 25.01.08:
    >
    >>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?

    >
    >> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.

    >
    > May be.


    :-)

    > I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
    > mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.


    That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.

    > No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much trolls.


    It's normally even worse in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, if that makes you feel
    any better.

    > That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.


    The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion. As
    it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(

    > Viele Gruesse


    Mes meilleurs pour un bon weekend.

  19. Re: Trolls (was: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12)

    On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:13:28 +0100, Mark South wrote:

    > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:39:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
    >
    >> Hallo, Mark,
    >>
    >> Du meintest am 25.01.08:
    >>
    >>>> They are trolls. Why do you feed them?

    >>
    >>> I'd just like to point out that you are beginning to look like a bot.

    >>
    >> May be.

    >
    > :-)
    >
    >> I try to find slackware informations in this newsgroup. But I find
    >> mostly (?) troll discussions. Troll freedings.

    >
    > That's the way it looks from where I'm sitting too.


    And it doesn't get better when seen from here ;D)

    >> No other newsgroup I'm reading (about 60 newsgroups) has so much
    >> trolls.


    You're quite lucky then! From time to time even *.dev.null,
    junk and *.test groups get flooded by trolls and/or spammers )

    > It's normally even worse in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, if that makes you feel
    > any better.


    Ubuntu? That sig b0rk3r?

    >> That's bad for the image, for the reputation of slackware.

    >
    > The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion.


    That's true, and if you look very closely to the group there is
    but the problem with Slackware is taht it's almost perfect so
    questions are few, except when there are flood from newcomers
    already slightly shocked by a previous OS or WM ;-)

    "We all live on the edge of town
    Where we all live, ain't a soul around
    People start a-comin', all we do is just a-grin
    Said we've gotta move out 'cause city's movin' in"

    > As it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(


    Ah, that's just empty space afterall, and you know there's always
    room for a beer when all empty space is full ;-)

    >> Viele Gruesse

    >
    > Mes meilleurs pour un bon weekend.

    ^
    ┬┐voeux?

    Adessias!

  20. Trolls and Trollers (was: Re: Trolls (was: Wrong Wireless Router on Slackware 12))

    On 2008-01-25, Mark South wrote:
    >
    > The only solution would be for there to be more Slackware discussion. As
    > it is, the trolls are mostly filling in empty space :-(


    The regulars are more concerned with suppressing any deviations from
    the mandates of the living god PV than they are with discussing Slackware.

    PV has decreed that KDE is to be the user interface used by Slackers,
    and therefore it's written in stone and not to be questioned by mere
    mortals.

    (Yes, that's sarcasm.)

    So instead of participating in what could be a truly edifying discussion,
    they have heaped abuse upon me, much of it quite subtle, but abuse
    never-the-less.

    Trolling, thus adding to the problem.

    Helmut has decided that I am a troll for daring to deviate from the
    Party Line. (National Socialists Party, Slackware Branch?)

    And more than half of the regulars respond to Dan C's and Realto Margarino's
    posts (they are both the same person, as are half of the 'other' trolls)
    on a regular basis.

    You reap what you sow.

    Nobody's telling ME what I can talk about, I can assure you that.
    I'll see this group destroyed before I'll allow that to happen.

    Tom

    --
    calhobbit
    at gee mail dot com


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