Le Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:35:15 -0800, lorenzu a écritÂ*:

> Hello !
> Hi thr .. im using slack 11 . with blackbox and xfce4-panle . But i
> have a small problem . Which is i do not know how to configure a startup
> script for linux . Other wise every time i log in to my wm i have to run
> xfce4-panel plus the backgroung image command .. and other programs
> which i want the OS to start automatically . Please advise .. Thank you
> !!!
> Gayan

Advice: install Slack 12.0. XFCE has gone a long way since 11.0.

cheers,

Niki (just finished building XFCE 4.4.2 D)

I hope Lorenzu is not italian because xfce4
is bugged for the italian language....
the Frenchmen can't lose

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:47:05 +0000, Niki Kovacs wrote:

>
> Advice: install Slack 12.0. XFCE has gone a long way since 11.0.
>
> cheers,
>
> Niki (just finished building XFCE 4.4.2 D)

On 2007-12-15, Richard James wrote:
> lorenzu wrote:
>
>> Hello !
>> Hi thr .. im using slack 11 . with blackbox and xfce4-panle . But i
>> have a small problem . Which is i do not know how to configure a
>> startup script for linux . Other wise every time i log in to my wm i
>> have to run xfce4-panel plus the backgroung image command .. and other
>> programs which i want the OS to start automatically . Please advise ..
>> Thank you !!!
>> Gayan
>
> Normally you would insert those commands into the .xinitrc file in your home
> directory. They need to go before the window manager and some need to be
> put as background processes using & for example I just ran xwmconfig select
> xfce and then edited the .xinitrc file.
>
> Before the line that says # Run xfce4-session if installed
>
> I put
>
> xterm &
> xterm &
>
> Now when I run X, xfce loads with two xterms in the background.
>
> You might have to fiddle a bit to get what you want running.

Doesn't blackbox/xfce have its own rc file? With ratpoison, you just put:

exec /usr/local/bin/ratpoison

in your xinitrc and rp takes over from there.

Tom

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On 2007-12-14, Tom N wrote:
> Doesn't blackbox/xfce have its own rc file?

Not blackbox. You need to add your clients to .xinitrc or
..xsession. (Don't know about xfce.)

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Tom N wrote:

> On 2007-12-15, Richard James wrote:
>> lorenzu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello !
>>> Hi thr .. im using slack 11 . with blackbox and xfce4-panle . But i
>>> have a small problem . Which is i do not know how to configure a
>>> startup script for linux . Other wise every time i log in to my wm i
>>> have to run xfce4-panel plus the backgroung image command .. and other
>>> programs which i want the OS to start automatically . Please advise ..
>>> Thank you !!!
>>> Gayan
>>
>> Normally you would insert those commands into the .xinitrc file in your
>> home directory. They need to go before the window manager and some need
>> to be put as background processes using & for example I just ran
>> xwmconfig select xfce and then edited the .xinitrc file.
>>
>> Before the line that says # Run xfce4-session if installed
>>
>> I put
>>
>> xterm &
>> xterm &
>>
>> Now when I run X, xfce loads with two xterms in the background.
>>
>> You might have to fiddle a bit to get what you want running.
>
> Doesn't blackbox/xfce have its own rc file? With ratpoison, you just put:
>
> exec /usr/local/bin/ratpoison
>
> in your xinitrc and rp takes over from there.

As far as I have read the ~/.blackboxrc is not the place to put these things
they go either in your ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file right before blackbox
is loaded.

Blackbox's and Fluxbox's rc files seem to be for configuration of the WM
only.

I just used wmconfig to get a blackbox .xinitrc and in it I edited it from
# Start the window manager:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox

to
# Start the window manager:
rxvt &
rxvt &
xterm &
firefox &
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox

and three terms open up and firefox loads on startup

Richard James

On 2007-12-15, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2007-12-14, Tom N wrote:
>> Doesn't blackbox/xfce have its own rc file?
>
> Not blackbox. You need to add your clients to .xinitrc or
> .xsession. (Don't know about xfce.)

Not a big deal, I did that with ratpoison until I got a handle
on the rc file.

I guess you could just put all the blackbox stuff in a seperate file,
name it ~/.blackboxrc, and call that from xinitrc.

Then it would have an official rc file! :-\

Sure like the name "blackbox". Beats "ratpoison" all to hell.

Tom

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On 2007-12-15, Richard James wrote:
> Tom N wrote:

....

>> Doesn't blackbox/xfce have its own rc file? With ratpoison, you just put:
>>
>> exec /usr/local/bin/ratpoison
>>
>> in your xinitrc and rp takes over from there.
>
> As far as I have read the ~/.blackboxrc is not the place to put these things
> they go either in your ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file right before blackbox
> is loaded.
>
> Blackbox's and Fluxbox's rc files seem to be for configuration of the WM
> only.
>
> I just used wmconfig to get a blackbox .xinitrc and in it I edited it from
> # Start the window manager:
> exec /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox
>
> to
> # Start the window manager:
> rxvt &
> rxvt &
> xterm &
> firefox &
> exec /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox
>
> and three terms open up and firefox loads on startup

You can do that with rp. Or you can put lines like this in your ratpoisonrc

exec rxvt
exec firefox

It's better to configure the xterms a little, though:

exec rxvt -ls -title foo -bg white -fg brown -cr black -sl 200 +sb -C

-ls login shell
-cr color of cursor
-bg background color
-fg color of font
-sl number of lines in scrollback buffer
-C display system messages
+sb no scrollbar

And if you want the xterm to run an app:

exec rxvt -ls -title slrn +sb -e /usr/bin/slrn

Then, though, if you kill slrn the xterm goes too.

Must be a way around that, but I don't know it.

Tom

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On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
>
> I guess you could just put all the blackbox stuff in a seperate file,
> name it ~/.blackboxrc, and call that from xinitrc.

No, you can't. .blackboxrc is the config file for blackbox, not a shell
script. And blackbox is not meant to use a separate startup script:
you're *supposed* to put blackbox into .xinitrc or .xsession.

--keith

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lorenzu wrote:

> Hello !
> Hi thr .. im using slack 11 . with blackbox and xfce4-panle . But i
> have a small problem . Which is i do not know how to configure a
> startup script for linux . Other wise every time i log in to my wm i
> have to run xfce4-panel plus the backgroung image command .. and other
> programs which i want the OS to start automatically . Please advise ..
> Thank you !!!
> Gayan

Normally you would insert those commands into the .xinitrc file in your home
directory. They need to go before the window manager and some need to be
put as background processes using & for example I just ran xwmconfig select
xfce and then edited the .xinitrc file.

Before the line that says # Run xfce4-session if installed

I put

xterm &
xterm &

Now when I run X, xfce loads with two xterms in the background.

You might have to fiddle a bit to get what you want running.

Richard James

On 2007-12-15, Richard James wrote:
> Tom N wrote:
>
>> And if you want the xterm to run an app:
>>
>> exec rxvt -ls -title slrn +sb -e /usr/bin/slrn
>>
>> Then, though, if you kill slrn the xterm goes too.
>>
>> Must be a way around that, but I don't know it.
>
> The only way I can think of is to write a wrapper script like this
> #!/bin/sh
> /usr/bin/slrn
> bash
>
> then
> exec rxvt -ls -title slrn +sb -e /path/to/script/wrapperscript.sh
>
> This makes the term run the script
> The script then runs slrn
> When slrn exits the script goes to the next line and executes bash
> leaving the user in a shell. If they exit the shell the xterm will close

I'll put that in my shell notes.

Very neat. Thanks.

Tom

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On 2007-12-15, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
>>
>> I guess you could just put all the blackbox stuff in a seperate file,
>> name it ~/.blackboxrc, and call that from xinitrc.
>
> No, you can't. .blackboxrc is the config file for blackbox, not a shell
> script. And blackbox is not meant to use a separate startup script:
> you're *supposed* to put blackbox into .xinitrc or .xsession.

Okay. You obviously know bb much better than I do.

Tom

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Tom N wrote:

> And if you want the xterm to run an app:
>
> exec rxvt -ls -title slrn +sb -e /usr/bin/slrn
>
> Then, though, if you kill slrn the xterm goes too.
>
> Must be a way around that, but I don't know it.

The only way I can think of is to write a wrapper script like this
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/slrn
bash

then
exec rxvt -ls -title slrn +sb -e /path/to/script/wrapperscript.sh

This makes the term run the script
The script then runs slrn
When slrn exits the script goes to the next line and executes bash
leaving the user in a shell. If they exit the shell the xterm will close

Richard James

On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
> On 2007-12-15, Keith Keller wrote:
>> On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess you could just put all the blackbox stuff in a seperate file,
>>> name it ~/.blackboxrc, and call that from xinitrc.
>>
>> No, you can't. .blackboxrc is the config file for blackbox, not a shell
>> script. And blackbox is not meant to use a separate startup script:
>> you're *supposed* to put blackbox into .xinitrc or .xsession.
>
> Okay. You obviously know bb much better than I do.

No, I just read my .blackboxrc, and it was obviously not a shell script.

--keith

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On 2007-12-15, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
>> On 2007-12-15, Keith Keller wrote:
>>> On 2007-12-15, Tom N wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess you could just put all the blackbox stuff in a seperate file,
>>>> name it ~/.blackboxrc, and call that from xinitrc.
>>>
>>> No, you can't. .blackboxrc is the config file for blackbox, not a shell
>>> script. And blackbox is not meant to use a separate startup script:
>>> you're *supposed* to put blackbox into .xinitrc or .xsession.
>>
>> Okay. You obviously know bb much better than I do.
>
> No, I just read my .blackboxrc, and it was obviously not a shell script.

Yes, I have never used blackbox, and never seen a .blackboxrc and never
read any docs on it or even seen a screenshot.

So you obviously know bb much better than I do.

That's been quite apparent to anyone with a functioning mind from the
beginning of this conversation.

I suggest a strong cup of coffee of two and maybe some deep-breathing
exercises.

Tom

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:51:29 +0100, Tom N wrote:

>> No, I just read my .blackboxrc, and it was obviously not a shell script.

> So you obviously know bb much better than I do.

Everyone knows everything much better than you do.

> That's been quite apparent to anyone with a functioning mind from the
> beginning of this conversation.

As is the fact that you're nothing more than the well-known Usenet troll
and Netkook, "Alan Connor".

> I suggest a strong cup of coffee of two and maybe some deep-breathing
> exercises.

Bugger off, whacko.

> Tom

You mean "Alan".


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On 2007-12-15, Dan C wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:51:29 +0100, Tom N wrote:
>
>>> No, I just read my .blackboxrc, and it was obviously not a shell script.
>
>> So you obviously know bb much better than I do.
>
> Everyone knows everything much better than you do.
>
>> That's been quite apparent to anyone with a functioning mind from the
>> beginning of this conversation.
>
> As is the fact that you're nothing more than the well-known Usenet troll
> and Netkook, "Alan Connor".
>
>> I suggest a strong cup of coffee of two and maybe some deep-breathing
>> exercises.
>
> Bugger off, whacko.

You keep saying that.

When are you going to make me?

Right now, all you are doing is boring the hell out of everyone.

Tom

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:25:59 +0100, Tom N wrote:

>> Bugger off, whacko.

> You keep saying that.
> When are you going to make me?

I'm not, Alan. You're going to do that by yourself. But, I just might
find the nearest Sasquatch and have him make you!

Do you prefer to call him "Sasquatch", or "Bigfoot"?

> Tom

It's "Alan", Tom.


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On 2007-12-16, Dan C wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:25:59 +0100, Tom N wrote:
>
>>> Bugger off, whacko.
>
>> You keep saying that.
>> When are you going to make me?
>
> I'm not, Alan. You're going to do that by yourself. But, I just might
> find the nearest Sasquatch and have him make you!
>
> Do you prefer to call him "Sasquatch", or "Bigfoot"?
>
>> Tom
>
> It's "Alan", Tom.
>
>

I'm still here.

When are you going to make me go away?

Tom

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:34:13 +0100, Tom N wrote:

>>> You keep saying that.
>>> When are you going to make me?

>> I'm not, Alan. You're going to do that by yourself. But, I just might
>> find the nearest Sasquatch and have him make you!

> I'm still here.
> When are you going to make me go away?

OK, so you have reading comprehension problems, too. Look right up there
above, Alan, where I said "I'm not...". Read it slowly.

> Tom

It's Alan, Tom.


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