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  1. Usernet spam

    Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    spams being posted daily?


  2. Re: Usernet spam

    On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:31:02 +0000, frz wrote:

    > Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    > spams being posted daily?


    I guess you just fell off the truck, eh n00b?

    No, there is no moderator.

    Why not just run along now, Win-droid...


    --
    "Bother!" said Pooh, as Christopher Robin pleaded to be spanked again.


  3. Re: Usernet spam

    On 2007-07-26, frz wrote:
    > Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    > spams being posted daily?


    Yeah, your killfile. Most newsgroups have no moderation, so it's your
    job to filter posts you don't want to see.

    --keith


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  4. Re: Usernet spam

    frz wrote:
    > Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    > spams being posted daily?
    >


    Usenet started back in the early 80s. The concept of spam did not exist
    back then, thus no moderation was necessary.

    --
    Dawid Michalczyk
    http://www.comp.eonworks.com _Linux SysAdmin and Webmaster scripts_

  5. Re: Usernet spam

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    On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Dawid Michalczyk wrote:

    >
    > frz wrote:
    >> Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    >> spams being posted daily?
    >>

    >
    > Usenet started back in the early 80s. The concept of spam did not exist
    > back then, thus no moderation was necessary.
    >


    I use this group via a mailing list, it has spam protection,
    unfortuantely, even after all these years, no one has yet to
    master the automated "dickhead-filter"


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  6. Re: Usernet spam

    frz wrote:
    User-Agent: G2/1.0
    X-HTTP-UserAgent: MSIE 6.0

    > Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    > spams being posted daily?


    You have several problems. First, you are a googlegrouper GG. The
    ramifications of that condition are that

    -1- many people are going to filter out anything you have to say, so it
    is likely that your posts will be filtered out along with the ones which
    you are seeing that you don't want

    -2- by using a browser to read usenet newsgroups instead of a newsagent
    and a newsserver, your GG interface doesn't permit you any kind of the
    filtering mentioned above in 1.

    -3- apparently you have some interest in linux, but you haven't even
    gone so far as to be able to surf to GG with a linux browser instead of
    a win browser.

    -4- you are apparently oblivious to the different usenet newsgroup
    conditions of moderated and unmoderated -- since you are GG-centric, you
    might want to read about moderated usenet groups in the GG help section
    http://groups.google.com/support/bin...d&topic=&type=
    What's a moderated newsgroup? Can I post to a moderated newsgroup
    through Google?




    --
    Mike Easter


  7. Re: Usernet spam

    On Jul 26, 5:33 pm, "Mike Easter" wrote:
    > frz wrote:
    >
    > User-Agent: G2/1.0
    > X-HTTP-UserAgent: MSIE 6.0
    >
    > > Isn't there a moderator for these newsgroup to remove all of these
    > > spams being posted daily?

    >
    > You have several problems. First, you are a googlegrouper GG. The
    > ramifications of that condition are that
    >
    > -1- many people are going to filter out anything you have to say, so it
    > is likely that your posts will be filtered out along with the ones which
    > you are seeing that you don't want
    >
    > -2- by using a browser to read usenet newsgroups instead of a newsagent
    > and a newsserver, your GG interface doesn't permit you any kind of the
    > filtering mentioned above in 1.
    >
    > -3- apparently you have some interest in linux, but you haven't even
    > gone so far as to be able to surf to GG with a linux browser instead of
    > a win browser.
    >
    > -4- you are apparently oblivious to the different usenet newsgroup
    > conditions of moderated and unmoderated -- since you are GG-centric, you
    > might want to read about moderated usenet groups in the GG help sectionhttp://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=46448&query=mod...
    > What's a moderated newsgroup? Can I post to a moderated newsgroup
    > through Google?
    >
    > --
    > Mike Easter


    Wow, you guys have gotten tough on the replies. So I guess no one sees
    the spams posted here but, me. Anywho, I have heard about moderated
    newsgroups and it isn't my first time on usernet and this newsgroup
    either. I just have been awol for a while and yes, I have not master
    the linux os to use it instead of windows. I am working on that bare
    with me. The using of google groups though is because 1). I am usually
    at work when I am on the computer, using XP and that is most only way
    to get here and 2) I am yet to finish setting up my wireless card to
    get online on my laptop and I don't have internet at home.


  8. Re: Usernet spam

    Dawid Michalczyk wrote:

    > Usenet started back in the early 80s. The concept of spam did not exist
    > back then, thus no moderation was necessary.


    There are plenty of moderated Usenet groups.

    alt.* groups are not moderated, by definition.

    - Kurt

  9. Re: Usernet spam

    On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:47:16 GMT
    ~kurt wrote:

    > Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    >
    > > Usenet started back in the early 80s. The concept of spam did not
    > > exist back then, thus no moderation was necessary.

    >
    > There are plenty of moderated Usenet groups.
    >
    > alt.* groups are not moderated, by definition.


    AFAIK, there's no such definition for alt.*

    In any case, there are moderated groups in alt.*, e.g.
    alt.computer.consultants.moderated

  10. Re: Usernet spam




    frz wrote:

    >So I guess no one sees the spams posted here but, me.


    Yup. That's because you are using Google Groups, and
    everyone else is using a real newsreader. Go to
    http://www.newsreaders.com and get the proper tools
    for the job.

    --
    Guy Macon





  11. Re: Usenet spam




    ~kurt wrote:

    >alt.* groups are not moderated, by definition.


    That's not true.

    Here are several moderated alt.* newsgroups:

    alt.humor.best-of-usenet
    alt.answers
    alt.atheism.moderated
    alt.health.cfids-action (FAQ posts only)
    alt.gourmand (missing moderator, no posts get approved)
    alt.dev.null (moderated, submission address is /dev/null)

    --
    Guy Macon



  12. Re: Usenet spam

    On 2007-07-27, Guy Macon wrote:

    [...]

    > alt.dev.null (moderated, submission address is /dev/null)


    Hmmm... I assume this one is a joke?

    Andrew

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  13. Re: Usenet spam

    On 2007-07-27, andrew wrote:
    > On 2007-07-27, Guy Macon wrote:
    >
    > [...]
    >
    >> alt.dev.null (moderated, submission address is /dev/null)

    >
    > Hmmm... I assume this one is a joke?


    Unbelievable it really is a NG. Not only that but there is the usual
    crap going on there : <7P2dncmE9pkjSRPbRVn_vgA@giganews.com>

    Andrew

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  14. Re: Usernet spam

    Q wrote:
    >
    > AFAIK, there's no such definition for alt.*


    OK, as I read the "faq", apparently, the alt.* hierarchies just have
    different rules for making changes, such as creating a moderated
    newsgroup out of an unmoderated one.

    What I read a decade ago, when I was reading up on Usenet before actually
    posting, is that alt.* are generally not moderated.

    So, I'll turn my statement into an opinion - moderated alt.* newsgroups
    are stupid.

    - Kurt

  15. Re: Usenet spam




    andrew wrote:
    >
    >Guy Macon wrote:
    >
    >> alt.dev.null (moderated, submission address is /dev/null)

    >
    >Hmmm... I assume this one is a joke?


    Nope. It has been around since 1992 and had 40 posts in 2006.
    How to post there is left as an exercise for the student.


  16. Re: Usenet spam



    ~kurt wrote:

    >So, I'll turn my statement into an opinion - moderated alt.* newsgroups
    >are stupid.


    What is stupid about alt.humor.best-of-usenet, alt.answers, and
    alt.atheism.moderated?

    --
    Guy Macon




  17. Re: Usenet spam

    Guy Macon says:
    >~kurt wrote:


    >>alt.* groups are not moderated, by definition.


    >That's not true.


    >Here are several moderated alt.* newsgroups:


    You forget the most important one:

    alt.spam.rogermanyard.moderated

    Curiously enough, only Guy Macon is allowed to post to this
    newsgroup.

    cordially, as always,

    rm
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  18. Re: Usernet spam

    ~kurt says:
    >?Q? wrote:


    >> AFAIK, there's no such definition for alt.*


    >OK, as I read the "faq", apparently, the alt.* hierarchies just
    >have different rules for making changes, such as creating a
    >moderated newsgroup out of an unmoderated one.


    Are you saying it is possible to turn an unmoderated alt ng into a
    moderated one?

    If so, say "so long!" to the pgp trash trollers!

    cordially, as always,

    rm

  19. Re: Usenet spam

    frz wrote:
    >
    > The using of google groups though is because 1). I am usually
    > at work when I am on the computer, using XP and that is most only way
    > to get here


    Is using usenet even via Google Groups one of the 'perks' your employer
    offers or are you just wasting his time and connection?

    > and 2) I am yet to finish setting up my wireless card to
    > get online on my laptop and I don't have internet at home.


    So you're only using the internet at work while someone else is
    presumably paying you to do something else. If you have no connection
    to the internet at home how are you intending to connect via wireless?

    --
    Two Ravens
    "...hit the squirrel..."

  20. Re: Usenet spam

    Guy Macon wrote:


    > Nope. It has been around since 1992 and had 40 posts in 2006.
    > How to post there is left as an exercise for the student.


    Its described as the Ultimate in moderated newsgroups.



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