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would slackware make a good router ?........
ideally i want to bond together my 2 Ethernet ADSL modems.......
i already have 2 NIC's fitted to an old Pentium 2 system,
64MBytes of SDRAM should be acceptable but i would have to check
the hardware requirements, and an 8GByte hard disk should have me covered
also
would this configuration work ?
lol wrote:
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> would slackware make a good router ?........[/color]
It has been working for me in that capacity for a number of years.
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> ideally i want to bond together my 2 Ethernet ADSL modems.......
>
> i already have 2 NIC's fitted to an old Pentium 2 system, 64MBytes of
> SDRAM should be acceptable but i would have to check the hardware
> requirements, and an 8GByte hard disk should have me covered also
>
> would this configuration work ?[/color]
If I understand correctly, you're intending to create the following
configuration:
+------+ +-------+
| ISP1 |<----->| ADSL1 |<-----+
+------+ +-------+ |
V
+--------+ +--------------+
| router |<----->| home network |
+--------+ +--------------+
^
+------+ +-------+ |
| ISP2 |<----->| ADSL2 |<-----+
+------+ +-------+
Assuming I have that correctly, I think you'll only need an additional
network interface in the router. An 8GB disk will give you plenty of
room to have an OS installation with various very useful tools which
would not normally be found on routing equipment.
The system I'm currently using as my home network ADSL-gateway is
woefully underpowered (486DX25 with 32MB RAM; Slackware-3.? installation,
with many patches and upgrades, but that should give you an idea of
ho long I've been using Slackware in this capacity), yet it does the
job reasonably well. I have a simpler setup than I believe you're
proposing, with only one ADSL provider, mind you, and my traffic needs
are relatively quite simple (no video or audio streaming, for example).
Current project underway to replace that with a (slightly) faster system,
and a modern Slackware installation, but that's moving slowly because
frankly, the only rush is my belief that the disk in the current router
doesn't have many more years left in it.
I hope this helps ...
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Sylvain Robitaille [email]syl@alcor.concordia.ca[/email]
Systems and Network analyst Concordia University
Instructional & Information Technology Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:00:18 +0100, "lol" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>would slackware make a good router ?........[/color]
Of course! I been using a low power slackware box between localnet
and the Big bad Internet for years -- ever since I started using ADSL.[color=blue]
>
>ideally i want to bond together my 2 Ethernet ADSL modems.......[/color]
You have two concurrent ADSL connections?[color=blue]
>
>i already have 2 NIC's fitted to an old Pentium 2 system,[/color]
Then you need another NIC for the localnet, no?
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>64MBytes of SDRAM should be acceptable but i would have to check
>the hardware requirements, and an 8GByte hard disk should have me covered
>also[/color]
I started with p120 with 32MB memory and a 3.2GB HDD, boosted that box
up to p-mmx/233 with 128MB and a 80GB HDD before recently swapping in a
Celeron/500 with 256MB box.[color=blue]
>
>would this configuration work ?[/color]
Yes, although I'm unsure how you going to connect 2 ADSL and localnet
with only two NICS. Draw up your planned network like Sylvain did in
his reply to clarify. Mine has:
# ---------------- ------------ LAN
# ( ) Phone | | Machines
# ( Big Bad Internet )--------| ADSL Modem |
# ( ) Line | | 100-Base-T
# ---------------- ------------ Switch -----
# | -------| |
# Public IP | X_WORLD | -----
# | | -----
# ------------- | --| |
# | ppp0/eth0 | --- | -----
# optional | | | \ |-- -----
# second - - - - - -|eth2 eth1|-----|/ /|-----| |
# localnet | | | \ |-- -----
# | Firewall | --- | -----
# ------------- | --| |
# | -----
# | -----
# -------| |
# X_LOCAL -----
# 192.168.1.0/24
Grant.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:28:08 +0000 (UTC), Sylvain Robitaille <syl@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
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>Current project underway to replace that with a (slightly) faster system,
>and a modern Slackware installation, but that's moving slowly because
>frankly, the only rush is my belief that the disk in the current router
>doesn't have many more years left in it.[/color]
Heh, the 3.2GB HDD in my firewall started squealing a couple years back
so I had to jump up to 80GB ;) I've since upgraded to a Celeron/500 box
to get better responsiveness when editing files -- the box is now also
web server and local install mirror.
[url]http://bugsplatter.mine.nu/test/boxen/deltree/[/url]
Grant.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:00:18 +0100, lol wrote:
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> would slackware make a good router ?........
>
> ideally i want to bond together my 2 Ethernet ADSL modems.......
>
> i already have 2 NIC's fitted to an old Pentium 2 system, 64MBytes of
> SDRAM should be acceptable but i would have to check the hardware
> requirements, and an 8GByte hard disk should have me covered also
>
> would this configuration work ?[/color]
Big time. I have been running a Slackware router myself on a 42MB
486 box, with a 500MB drive. I picked it up about 10 years ago in my
previous company, since nobody wanted it and they were going to throw it
away.
You will have noticed in other replies that many people run their
routers on pretty pathetic hardware, albeit not quite as pathetic as
mine. Yours is pathetic indeed, but far less so than mine; it should work
beautifully.
lol wrote:
[color=blue]
>would slackware make a good router ?........
>
>ideally i want to bond together my 2 Ethernet ADSL modems.......
>
>i already have 2 NIC's fitted to an old Pentium 2 system,
>64MBytes of SDRAM should be acceptable but i would have to check
>the hardware requirements, and an 8GByte hard disk should have me covered
>also
>
>would this configuration work ?[/color]
Not only would the above work, it is way overpowered for the purpose
if you use the right software.
There are two paths yuo can take, both good:
IF YOU WANT TO SPEND TIME AND LEARN A LOT:
Use Slackware. Experiment with the latest release and with one or
two older releases. Learn how everything works and set it all up.
IF YOU JUST WANT IT TO SET UP QUICKLY AND TO WORK PROPERLY:
Download FreeSCO. Follow the directions, answer a few questions,
and you will have a high-quality Slackware-based router.
[url]http://www.freesco.org/[/url]
While you are at it, replace your keyboard. It appaers to
have lost the ability to input upper-case characters.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>
Ivar Rosquist wrote:
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>Big time. I have been running a Slackware router myself on a 42MB
>486 box, with a 500MB drive. I picked it up about 10 years ago in my
>previous company, since nobody wanted it and they were going to throw it
>away.
>
>You will have noticed in other replies that many people run their
>routers on pretty pathetic hardware, albeit not quite as pathetic as
>mine. Yours is pathetic indeed, but far less so than mine; it should work
>beautifully.[/color]
My FreeSCO (slackware-based) router works great on a 16MHz 386SX
with 32MB of RAM. The minimum RAM is 8MB but I have not tried
that configuration.
You might be able to use a cheap hub to link the two Ethernet
ADSL modems. Newegg has a 5-port 100BASE-TX w=switching hub
for $27.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>
On 2007-06-13, Ivar Rosquist <IRosquist@irq.org> wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Big time. I have been running a Slackware router myself on a 42MB
> 486 box, with a 500MB drive. I picked it up about 10 years ago in my
> previous company, since nobody wanted it and they were going to throw it
> away.
>
> You will have noticed in other replies that many people run their
> routers on pretty pathetic hardware, albeit not quite as pathetic as
> mine. Yours is pathetic indeed, but far less so than mine; it should work
> beautifully.[/color]
I used to run my router on a 486, but the power supply fried, so then I
moved to a P-75 with 16MB of RAM. I pulled the hard disks out of these
machines so that I could run floppyfw as my router.
Nowadays I use a Linksys switch/router with OpenWRT, if only to save
physical space in my home.
--keith
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> I used to run my router on a 486, but the power supply fried, so then I[color=blue]
> moved to a P-75 with 16MB of RAM. I pulled the hard disks out of these
> machines so that I could run floppyfw as my router.
>
> Nowadays I use a Linksys switch/router with OpenWRT, if only to save
> physical space in my home.[/color]
Not to mention a heap of electricity, the main reason I made a similar
switch.
Leonard The Committed wrote:[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> I used to run my router on a 486, but the power supply fried, so then I
>> moved to a P-75 with 16MB of RAM. I pulled the hard disks out of these
>> machines so that I could run floppyfw as my router.
>>
>> Nowadays I use a Linksys switch/router with OpenWRT, if only to save
>> physical space in my home.[/color]
>
>Not to mention a heap of electricity, the main reason I made a similar
>switch.
>
>[/color]
How do I quote correctly in usenet?
[url]http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html[/url]
The advantages of usenet's quoting conventions
[url]http://www.mccaughan.org.uk/g/remarks/uquote.html[/url]
Rules for posting to Usenet
[url]http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/[/url]
How To Followup A Post On Netnews Properly
[url]http://www.star-one.org.uk/computer/format.htm[/url]
Quoting Style in Newsgroup Postings
[url]http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html[/url]
Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:[color=blue]
> Leonard The Committed wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I used to run my router on a 486, but the power supply fried, so
>>> then I moved to a P-75 with 16MB of RAM. I pulled the hard
>>> disks out of these machines so that I could run floppyfw as my
>>> router.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Nowadays I use a Linksys switch/router with OpenWRT, if only to
>>> save physical space in my home.[/color][/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>>Not to mention a heap of electricity, the main reason I made a
>>similar switch.[/color][/color]
We have left the above text intact to make a point.
[color=blue]
> How do I quote correctly in usenet?
> [url]http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html[/url][/color]
When responding to a posting in usenet, you should always be on
topic - you are not. And if you are to go off-topic, you should
mark the subject line "OT" as we have done above.
Moreover, when you do respond to text, you clip the text, from the
posting to which you are responding, that is not relevant to the
point you are making. We would have snipped the text above, however
it is relevant to showing that you posted incorrectly, as usual.
You are a great one for telling others how to do things. But in
actual fact, you don't have a clue. Most of your information is
either outdated, second hand junk that you glean from google. Or it
is just plain, outright wrong.
You have been asked before, by many others, to stop posting to this
newsgroup until you have shown that you have the technical ability
and knowledge necessary to make a contribution. Most of the
reputable posters to this ng have at least one technical degree, and
many have two. If you had even a single year of college, you might
learn to see just how utterly foolish you appear.
We ask you again to stop posting to this ng.
cordially, as always,
rm
Leonard The Committed wrote:
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>That looks like too much work, thats why I asked for something like a
>grown-up freesco[/color]
Smoothwall, perhaps? I would go and look to see if it meets your
needs, but that looks like too much work <smile>.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>
Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:[color=blue]
> Leonard The Committed wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>>That looks like too much work, thats why I asked for something
>>like a grown-up freesco[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Smoothwall, perhaps? I would go and look to see if it meets your
> needs, but that looks like too much work <smile>.[/color]
In other words, you don't know what you are talking about but you
want to seem helpful in case somebody is watching.
This means that you're a phony. Everybody knows it. Please stop
posting.
cordially, as always,
rm
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On 2007-06-13, Guy Macon <http> wrote:[color=blue]
> Squid + Authentication + Dansguardian + SARG HOWTO
> [url]http://www.ysgnet.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=164[/url][/color]
<shameless self promotion>
Does me proud to hear people still linking to something I wrote a
couple years ago, and for it to still be valid.
</shameless self promotion>
For the record, I'm gonna be adding squid and dansguardian SlackBuild
scripts to [url]http://www.slackbuilds.org/[/url] in the not-too-distant future.
I should have already done this, but I really have to go back over
them[0] and make sure everything it good-to-go for Slackware-12.0.
[0] Squid in particular is a PITA to package well. It likes to use
/var/lib/squid for everything, including log files, so a lot of little
configure options are required to make it fit well with the Slackware
layout.
- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
pgp trash troll delete
**** off, Hicks.
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> On 2007-06-13, Guy Macon <http> wrote:[/color]
Two hillbillies from Georgia in the same thread.
Neither one of you are welcome in this ng.
cordially, as always,
rm
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yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
he's as welcome here. nono. he's MORE welcome here than u r ya useless
waste of space turd...
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, [email]rm@biteme.org[/email] wrote:
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> +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
>
> pgp trash troll delete
>
> **** off, Hicks.
>[color=green]
>> On 2007-06-13, Guy Macon <http> wrote:[/color]
>
> Two hillbillies from Georgia in the same thread.
>
> Neither one of you are welcome in this ng.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
>[/color]
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Cheers
Res
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:00:56 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
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>
>
>
> Leonard The Committed wrote:
>[color=green]
>>That looks like too much work, thats why I asked for something like a
>>grown-up freesco[/color]
>
> Smoothwall, perhaps? I would go and look to see if it meets your
> needs, but that looks like too much work <smile>.[/color]
Not so much a matter of work, but ability. I'm in in IT (at least for the
last 7 years) and am setting this up for a non-profit in a volunteer
situation. It's giving me something to do other than my JOB, I'm a
hobbiest.
Leonard The Committed wrote:[color=blue]
>
>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Leonard The Committed wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>That looks like too much work, thats why I asked for something like a
>>>grown-up freesco[/color]
>>
>> Smoothwall, perhaps? I would go and look to see if it meets your
>> needs, but that looks like too much work <smile>.[/color]
>
>Not so much a matter of work, but ability. I'm in in IT (at least for the
>last 7 years) and am setting this up for a non-profit in a volunteer
>situation. It's giving me something to do other than my JOB, I'm a
>hobbiest.[/color]
Hmmm. FreeSCO is a full Linux distribution (an older version of
Slackware) and has a nice feature; booting from a write protected
floppy, setting up a RAMdisk that is ten times bigger than the
floppy, copying itself over and running from the RAMdisk, and
then downloading and running programs loaded on the PC it's
protecting. It might be fairly simple to make it load whatever
it takes to add website content filtering. If so, publishing
instructins on how to do that would be a benefit to others who
want to do what you want to do.
--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>