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Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five
Time: 19:30 to 20:00 (BST).
When: Friday 22nd August on five
The documentary series looking at the untold stories of British
scientific innovations focuses on the development of Britain's 1.4
billion pound computer game industry. In the early 1980s, two
pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.
(Information from [url]www.digiguide.com[/url])
On 15 Aug, 22:08, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:[color=blue]
> Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five[/color]
Thanks for the tip. I missed the first five.
This is the sort of stuff i like and it is the last of six next week.
Channel five are shrinking violets when it comes to publicizing
programs but without paying 9.99 a month I got this via Google
[url]http://library.digiguide.com/lib/uk-tv-highlight/Brits+Who+Made+The+Modern+World-4496/Documentary/[/url]
I did like that game.
Philip Green <philip.green@kpnplanet.nl> wrote in news:48a5f047$0$7469
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> Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five
>
> Time: 19:30 to 20:00 (BST).
> When: Friday 22nd August on five
>
> The documentary series looking at the untold stories of British
> scientific innovations focuses on the development of Britain's 1.4
> billion pound computer game industry. In the early 1980s, two
> pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
> impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.
>
>
> (Information from [url]www.digiguide.com[/url])
>[/color]
Was that Braben and Bell?
On Aug 15, 10:08 pm, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:[color=blue]
> Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five
>
> Time: 19:30 to 20:00 (BST).
> When: Friday 22nd August on five
>
> The documentary series looking at the untold stories of British
> scientific innovations focuses on the development of Britain's 1.4
> billion pound computer game industry. In the early 1980s, two
> pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
> impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.
>
> (Information fromwww.digiguide.com)[/color]
This came up a while back at alt.fan.elite. I dunno will this link
work: [url]http://groups.google.ie/group/alt.fan.elite/browse_thread/thread/c2fd484458b68318#[/url]
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:08:23 +0200, Philip Green wrote:
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> In the early 1980s, two
> pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
> impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.[/color]
Ant Attack? :-)
On Aug 16, 11:13 pm, Jules
<jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:08:23 +0200, Philip Green wrote:[color=green]
> > In the early 1980s, two
> > pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
> > impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.[/color]
>
> Ant Attack? :-)[/color]
Hardly. Battle Zone was released in 1980. There's probably earlier too.
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Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 15 Aug, 22:08, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:[color=green]
> > Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five[/color]
>
> Thanks for the tip. I missed the first five.
> This is the sort of stuff i like and it is the last of six next week.
> Channel five are shrinking violets when it comes to publicizing
> programs but without paying 9.99 a month I got this via Google
>
> [url]http://library.digiguide.com/lib/uk-tv-highlight/Brits+Who+Made+The+Modern+World-4496/Documentary/[/url]
>
> I did like that game.[/color]
The reference to 9.99 per month intrigues me. What's that about?
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Thanks and regards,
Philip.
On 17 Aug, 09:04, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
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> The reference to 9.99 per month intrigues me. What's that about?[/color]
DigiGuide is a subscription service that costs £9.99 A YEAR not a
month.
I got that wrong - I thought it seemed a bit expensive. :-)
I could not get that screen from the free DigiGuide but I found it on
Google's search.
Thanks for the tip.
Geoff.
Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> On 17 Aug, 09:04, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The reference to 9.99 per month intrigues me. What's that about?[/color]
>
> DigiGuide is a subscription service that costs £9.99 A YEAR not a
> month.
> I got that wrong - I thought it seemed a bit expensive. :-)
>
> I could not get that screen from the free DigiGuide but I found it on
> Google's search.[/color]
'course, if you have a digital tv (or settop box), you can call up listings
for every channel for the next week or 2 (depending).
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Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 17 Aug, 09:04, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > The reference to 9.99 per month intrigues me. What's that about?[/color]
>
> DigiGuide is a subscription service that costs £9.99 A YEAR not a
> month.
> I got that wrong - I thought it seemed a bit expensive. :-)[/color]
That would certainly put me off. I took out a subscription when I set up my
satellite set. I live outside the UK and printed guides are very expensive
here.
Digiguide can also be set up to warn users when a certain programme is going
to be on and/or certain words, names appear in the description of a
programme. I'm not on the make here; if I had wanted to gain converts and
credit I would have posted the link that gets me 60 days free extra
subscription for every referral who takes out a sub.
[color=blue]
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> Geoff.[/color]
This semed to be the place to post it (along with comp.sys.acorn).
You're welcome.
regards,
Philip.
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Andrew Halliwell <spike1@ponder.sky.com> wrote:
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>
> 'course, if you have a digital tv (or settop box), you can call up listings
> for every channel for the next week or 2 (depending).[/color]
A settop box won't search programme names and descriptions for all films with
your favourite thespian or subject and warn you when they will be showing.
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:28:57 -0700, DanSolo wrote:
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> On Aug 16, 11:13 pm, Jules
> <jules.richardsonn...@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:08:23 +0200, Philip Green wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > In the early 1980s, two
>> > pioneering Cambridge undergraduates set out to achieve the seemingly
>> > impossible task of developing the world's first 3-D computer game.[/color]
>>
>> Ant Attack? :-)[/color]
>
> Hardly. Battle Zone was released in 1980. There's probably earlier too.[/color]
Hence the smiley :-) Maze War (1974) is generally considered the
first*, but I was trying to come up with an early one from the 80s which
wasn't Elite (which I believe is what these TV people seem to be claiming
as the first) - good call on Battle Zone.
* and I suspect there was earlier. One of the things that I've learned
over the years is that when it comes to computers, it's pretty pointless
trying to prove a 'first'. Ideas and concepts tend to appear almost in
parallel across the globe, and often record of the early ones lay
'undiscovered' in obscure documentation - even when it does come to light,
no amount of proof is going to change the accepted picture of what
happened...
cheers
Jules
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:32:34 -0500 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin'
to MC Jules:
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> Hence the smiley :-) Maze War (1974) is generally considered the
> first*, but I was trying to come up with an early one from the 80s which
> wasn't Elite (which I believe is what these TV people seem to be claiming
> as the first) - good call on Battle Zone.[/color]
3D Monster Maze?
Chris
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 Philip Green wrote:
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>A settop box won't search programme names and descriptions for all films with
>your favourite thespian or subject and warn you when they will be showing.[/color]
Unless it's a TiVo :)
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:31:51 +0100, Chris Young wrote:
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> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:32:34 -0500 da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin'
> to MC Jules:
>[color=green]
>> Hence the smiley :-) Maze War (1974) is generally considered the
>> first*, but I was trying to come up with an early one from the 80s which
>> wasn't Elite (which I believe is what these TV people seem to be claiming
>> as the first) - good call on Battle Zone.[/color]
>
> 3D Monster Maze?[/color]
That works, too.
Mind you, someone quoted the wording elsewhere earlier and it claimed that
Elite was the first 3D game created in a bedroom, so maybe all the
previous 3D games don't count ;)
In article , Chris Young says...[color=blue]
>
>On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 to MC Jules:
>[color=green]
>> Hence the smiley :-) Maze War (1974) is generally considered the
>> first*, but I was trying to come up with an early one from the 80s which
>> wasn't Elite (which I believe is what these TV people seem to be claiming
>> as the first) - good call on Battle Zone.[/color]
>
>3D Monster Maze?[/color]
I think they're probably being a bit picky on the exact definition. First 3d
computer game that used a true XYZ co-ordinate system to represent 3d space,
instead of a scaled sprites to simulate 3d ??
Even then Battlezone definitely had that beat. Weren't there Battlezone clones
before 1984 and looking at the publication date did "3D star strike" beat elite
to market as well ?
Perhaps it should be "First 3D computer game for the BBC model B called Elite."
- James
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:59:36 -0700, jrok wrote:[color=blue]
> Perhaps it should be "First 3D computer game for the BBC model B called Elite."[/color]
The cynic in me says it's more likely "3D game that we can find lots
of information about using google, and which happens to be early enough
such that we can claim it as a first and few people will know otherwise" -
in other words, someone's being plain lazy, which doesn't bode well for
the rest of the programme content.
Bah, humbug. I'm glad I can't get C5 here. :)
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:20:02 -0500, Jules
<jules.richardsonnews@remove.this.gmail.com> wrote:
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>On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:59:36 -0700, jrok wrote:[color=green]
>> Perhaps it should be "First 3D computer game for the BBC model B called Elite."[/color]
>
>The cynic in me says it's more likely "3D game that we can find lots
>of information about using google, and which happens to be early enough
>such that we can claim it as a first and few people will know otherwise" -
>in other words, someone's being plain lazy, which doesn't bode well for
>the rest of the programme content.
>
>Bah, humbug. I'm glad I can't get C5 here. :)
>
>
>[/color]
I can though. Shall I tape it?
Geoff Wearmouth wrote:
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> On 15 Aug, 22:08, Philip Green <philip.gr...@kpnplanet.nl> wrote:[color=green]
> > Brits Who Made The Modern World showing on five[/color]
>
> Thanks for the tip. I missed the first five.
> This is the sort of stuff i like and it is the last of six next week.[/color]
I've just watched episode 4, downloaded via uknova.com. It was all
about the race to launch the first UK mobile phone network (BT versus
Racal Vodaphone). Very interesting it was too.
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:59:36 -0700, jrok wrote:
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> In article , Chris Young says...[color=green]
>>
>>On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 to MC Jules:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hence the smiley :-) Maze War (1974) is generally considered the
>>> first*, but I was trying to come up with an early one from the 80s
>>> which wasn't Elite (which I believe is what these TV people seem to be
>>> claiming as the first) - good call on Battle Zone.[/color]
>>
>>3D Monster Maze?[/color]
>
> I think they're probably being a bit picky on the exact definition.
> First 3d computer game that used a true XYZ co-ordinate system to
> represent 3d space, instead of a scaled sprites to simulate 3d ??[/color]
If pseudo 3D is allowed, then the vector game 'baseball' running on the
IBM AN/FSQ-7 was both the first 3D game, and the first networked computer
game. That was in 1956.
On google I found a Chinese site selling shoes, watches, and computer
peripherals including the AN/FSQ-7. Delivery is $50, but I think that is
quite cheap, considering. I wonder if it comes with the generator
blockhouse?
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>
> Even then Battlezone definitely had that beat. Weren't there Battlezone
> clones before 1984 and looking at the publication date did "3D star
> strike" beat elite to market as well ?
>
> Perhaps it should be "First 3D computer game for the BBC model B called
> Elite."
>
> - James[/color]