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  1. Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    system (OS).

    A new version of Ubuntu, a version of the Linux OS, is released on
    Thursday.

    Mr Shuttleworth said the success of the Asus EEE PC and the work of
    the One Laptop Per Child programme had driven awareness of open
    source.

    "There has been a sea change in the way people think of Linux, which
    is very healthy," he said.

    "We have seen a real shift in the last six months from folks seeing
    open source as either a super-specialist thing for people who run data
    centres or as an enthusiast thing, to something which is energising a
    lot of the straight commercial PC industry," said Mr Shuttleworth.

    Platform development

    He manages Canonical software, which is the primary sponsor of
    distribution for Ubuntu, and a key element in the platform's
    development.

    He is also well-known for being the second-ever, self-funded space
    tourist, travelling to the International Space Station aboard the
    Soyuz spacecraft in 2002.

    If people think of their daily experience as a sit down on the web,
    we know that people can have very compelling experience on Linux

    Mark Shuttleworth

    Mr Shuttleworth said ordinary consumers were beginning to turn to
    Ubuntu, and to Linux more generally, to improve their daily computing
    experience.

    "If people think of computing as going to a PC, sitting down and
    starting Word, then the traditional view, of using Windows and Office,
    will persist.

    "But if people think of their daily experience as a sit down on the
    web, we know that people can have a very compelling experience on
    Linux.

    "In fact, we know it is a better web experience because they can do it
    without spyware, without viruses."

    Mr Shuttleworth said he believed there were about eight to nine
    million users of Ubuntu worldwide.

    "Most of the growth in users is from people buying a device that comes
    with Ubuntu shipped or wanting something for a second or older
    computer and are looking to tech-savvy friends for guidance," he said.
    'Most significant'

    He described the latest version of Ubuntu, dubbed Hardy Heron, as
    "perhaps our most significant ever".

    The version will have three years of "long term support" from
    Canonical, which Mr Shuttleworth believes will make it more attractive
    for large-scale roll-outs of machines powered by the operating system.
    He said the French police force was currently deploying 50,000
    Ubuntu-powered machines, while Spanish education authorities were
    rolling out 500,000 desktops with the OS.

    Hardy Heron also has improved support for multimedia, including photo
    editing, music sharing and video playback, he said.

    The version has also been designed to make installation simpler and
    give users the chance to try the OS without making radical alterations
    to their current computer set-up.

    "This is the first version that you can install under Windows.

    "Instead of re-partitioning your hard drive and taking some fairly
    risky steps, effectively you can now install under Windows without
    modifying your system."

    Ubuntu can be installed on PC and Mac machines and is one of a number
    of versions of Linux.

    Mr Shuttleworth said: "It's a favourite version of Linux both for
    specialists and one that specialists would recommend to a cousin, aunt
    or uncle who want to have a stable desktop internet experience.

    "There are other versions of Linux that are better for a particular
    purpose - but Ubuntu strives to be a general platform that is secure
    and self-maintained."


  2. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Lister wrote:
    > The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    > Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    > system (OS).
    >
    > A new version of Ubuntu, a version of the Linux OS, is released on
    > Thursday.
    >


    /me is using it right now, I installed it on my new laptop I got last week.

    Hardy is out on Thursday? bummer, I should have waited then!

  3. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Guesser wrote:
    > Lister wrote:
    >> The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    >> Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    >> system (OS).
    >>
    >> A new version of Ubuntu, a version of the Linux OS, is released on
    >> Thursday.
    >>

    >
    > /me is using it right now, I installed it on my new laptop I got last week.
    >
    > Hardy is out on Thursday? bummer, I should have waited then!


    apt-get dist-upgrade's not that hard is it?


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  4. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Andrew Halliwell wrote:
    > Guesser wrote:
    >> Lister wrote:
    >>> The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    >>> Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    >>> system (OS).
    >>>
    >>> A new version of Ubuntu, a version of the Linux OS, is released on
    >>> Thursday.
    >>>

    >> /me is using it right now, I installed it on my new laptop I got last week.
    >>
    >> Hardy is out on Thursday? bummer, I should have waited then!

    >
    > apt-get dist-upgrade's not that hard is it?
    >
    >

    assuming the upgrade of the system doesn't break everything, like when I
    went from suse 10.0 to suse 10.2
    booooom!

  5. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Guesser wrote:
    > assuming the upgrade of the system doesn't break everything, like when I
    > went from suse 10.0 to suse 10.2
    > booooom!


    Well, there were 2 mistakes there...
    1: you jumped 2 versions...
    2: suse isn't apt based. And doesn't have its repositories online and
    apt-get dist-upgrade-equivalent-able, you normally need to download an
    ISO...
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  6. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Lister wrote:

    > The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    > Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    > system (OS).


    I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the rate
    they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as usable as
    Windows.
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  7. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:59:54 +0100, "Slower Than You"
    wrote:

    >Lister wrote:
    >
    >> The public perception of open source software is changing fast, said
    >> Mark Shuttleworth, who leads distribution of the Ubuntu operating
    >> system (OS).

    >
    >I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the rate
    >they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as usable as
    >Windows.



    Well, I'll certainly use it if/when I build another box

  8. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    2008 13:59:16 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    yawatina tan reek esk Andrew Halliwell fornis do
    marikano es bono tan el:

    >2: suse isn't apt based. And doesn't have its repositories online and
    >apt-get dist-upgrade-equivalent-able, you normally need to download an
    >ISO...


    Really? It certainly *used* to have it's repositories online. That's how I
    upgraded from 7.3 to 9.0 to 9.3 to 10.0 to 10.1.

    It isn't apt, sure, but YaST has online updating.

    deKay
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  9. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend


    "Slower Than You" napísal

    > I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the rate
    > they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as usable as
    > Windows.


    From official website :

    Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am
    because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of
    Ubuntu to the software world.

    A very courageous name....

    B


  10. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Bohus Král wrote:

    >
    > "Slower Than You" napísal
    >
    > > I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the
    > > rate they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as
    > > usable as Windows.

    >
    > From official website :
    >
    > Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what
    > I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the
    > spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
    >
    > A very courageous name....


    Well, it's either very courageous or just a bit of pretentious
    marketing bollocks...
    --
    Slower Than You

  11. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    deKay wrote:
    > Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    > 2008 13:59:16 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    > yawatina tan reek esk Andrew Halliwell fornis do
    > marikano es bono tan el:
    >
    >>2: suse isn't apt based. And doesn't have its repositories online and
    >>apt-get dist-upgrade-equivalent-able, you normally need to download an
    >>ISO...

    >
    > Really? It certainly *used* to have it's repositories online. That's how I
    > upgraded from 7.3 to 9.0 to 9.3 to 10.0 to 10.1.


    Really? I never saw that functionality in yast and I'd been using it since
    suse 5.2. Oh, it did online update for bug and security fixes, yes, but how
    the heck did you convince it to change distro versions?
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  12. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Bohus Král wrote:
    > From official website :
    >
    > Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am
    > because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of
    > Ubuntu to the software world.
    >
    > A very courageous name....


    Why courageous?
    Shuttleworth's south african, y'know.
    (Ubuntu's founder)
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  13. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend


    "Slower Than You" napísal v správe
    news:xn0fp77z94hdtat000@news.clara.net...
    > Bohus Král wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Slower Than You" napísal
    >>
    >> > I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the
    >> > rate they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as
    >> > usable as Windows.

    >>
    >> From official website :
    >>
    >> Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what
    >> I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the
    >> spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
    >>
    >> A very courageous name....

    >
    > Well, it's either very courageous or just a bit of pretentious
    > marketing bollocks...


    I meant "courageous" rather than courageous.

    B


  14. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    2008 15:10:32 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    yawatina tan reek esk Andrew Halliwell fornis do
    marikano es bono tan el:


    >Really? I never saw that functionality in yast and I'd been using it since
    >suse 5.2. Oh, it did online update for bug and security fixes, yes, but how
    >the heck did you convince it to change distro versions?


    I seem to recall a script. It's been a looooong time though. Put it this way,
    I have a 10.1 install on a machine (the same machine I started off with 7.3
    on), and have never had anything later than 9.0 on disc.

    Anyway, I'm all Mac these days



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  15. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    deKay wrote:
    > Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    > 2008 15:10:32 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    > yawatina tan reek esk Andrew Halliwell fornis do
    > marikano es bono tan el:
    >
    >
    >>Really? I never saw that functionality in yast and I'd been using it since
    >>suse 5.2. Oh, it did online update for bug and security fixes, yes, but how
    >>the heck did you convince it to change distro versions?

    >
    > I seem to recall a script. It's been a looooong time though. Put it this way,
    > I have a 10.1 install on a machine (the same machine I started off with 7.3
    > on), and have never had anything later than 9.0 on disc.
    >
    > Anyway, I'm all Mac these days


    Yes, yes, we know about your coat preferences... (dirty ones too of course)
    But what about computers?
    :-p
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  16. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Andrew Halliwell wrote:
    you normally need to download an
    > ISO...

    as I did

  17. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:57:07 +0100, Andrew Halliwell
    wrote:

    >deKay wrote:
    >> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    >> 2008 15:10:32 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    >> yawatina tan reek esk Andrew Halliwell fornis do
    >> marikano es bono tan el:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Really? I never saw that functionality in yast and I'd been using it since
    >>>suse 5.2. Oh, it did online update for bug and security fixes, yes, but how
    >>>the heck did you convince it to change distro versions?

    >>
    >> I seem to recall a script. It's been a looooong time though. Put it this way,
    >> I have a 10.1 install on a machine (the same machine I started off with 7.3
    >> on), and have never had anything later than 9.0 on disc.
    >>
    >> Anyway, I'm all Mac these days

    >
    >Yes, yes, we know about your coat preferences... (dirty ones too of course)
    >But what about computers?
    >:-p



    How come you're using your real name now, Spike?

  18. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Lister wrote:
    >>Yes, yes, we know about your coat preferences... (dirty ones too of course)
    >>But what about computers?
    >>:-p

    >
    > How come you're using your real name now, Spike?


    Different computer, different distro, different defaults.
    My real name's always been in my posts anyway...
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  19. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:11:32 +0100, Andrew Halliwell
    wrote:

    >Lister wrote:
    >>>Yes, yes, we know about your coat preferences... (dirty ones too of course)
    >>>But what about computers?
    >>>:-p

    >>
    >> How come you're using your real name now, Spike?

    >
    >Different computer, different distro, different defaults.
    >My real name's always been in my posts anyway...



    Yeah, it just seems a bit odd, out of place, know what I mean?

  20. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Mon, 21 Apr
    2008 20:57:10 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do comp.sys.sinclair,
    yawatina tan reek esk Lister fornis do marikano es bono
    tan el:

    >Yeah, it just seems a bit odd, out of place, know what I mean?


    He's always out of place

    deKay
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