Ubuntu reaping linux dividend - Sinclair

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  1. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Lister wrote:
    > Mr Shuttleworth said: "It's a favourite version of Linux both for
    > specialists and one that specialists would recommend to a cousin,
    > aunt or uncle who want to have a stable desktop internet experience.


    Flame time!

    I had an argument weighing the technical merits vs pitfalls of Debian
    here but I just deleted it...

    Debian sucks like a C64 with some sort of sucky peripheral (Simons'
    BASIC or something. What sort of computer comes without a full BASIC?
    Hmmm... maybe it sucks like a C64 /without/ Simons' BASIC as that sucks
    more.)

    YAH BOO SUCKS!

    That said, I do recommend Ubuntu to Windows refugees. It has all the
    irritating speech bubbles and constant updates they crave.

  2. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    fuzzix wrote:
    > Lister wrote:
    >
    > That said, I do recommend Ubuntu to Windows refugees. It has all the
    > irritating speech bubbles and constant updates they crave.


    and just like windows, the tech savvy person who doesn't need his or her
    hand holding can turn them off...
    But the option is there to leave them switched on if you are setting up
    a PC for your 70 year old granny.

  3. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    fuzzix wrote:

    > That said, I do recommend Ubuntu to Windows refugees. It has all the
    > irritating speech bubbles and constant updates they crave.


    Heh! I might steal that one...

    --
    Duncan Snowden.

  4. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Guesser wrote:
    > and just like windows, the tech savvy person who doesn't need his or
    > her hand holding can turn them off... But the option is there to
    > leave them switched on if you are setting up a PC for your 70 year
    > old granny.


    Or you can just use Slack and fluxbox...

    ....or do you need a spinning cube?

    And my granny is 86, you insensitive clod!

  5. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Guesser wrote:
    > and just like windows, the tech savvy person who doesn't need his or
    > her hand holding can turn them off... But the option is there to
    > leave them switched on if you are setting up a PC for your 70 year
    > old granny.


    Or you can just use Slack and fluxbox...

    ....or do you need a spinning cube?

    And my granny is 86, you insensitive clod!


  6. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Lister wrote:
    > wrote:
    >> Different computer, different distro, different defaults. My real
    >> name's always been in my posts anyway...

    >
    > Yeah, it just seems a bit odd, out of place, know what I mean?


    Yeah, I was wondering who the **** he was...

  7. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, fuzzix wrote:

    >
    > Or you can just use Slack
    >


    Somethings never change like it's still 1993 in chateux Fuzzix.

    Fuzzix accept it man, the world didn't pause in December 1993, we've
    got some bad news to tell you. Frank Zappa died man, I know it's a
    ****ter but some good things happened around that time too you know.
    Some bloke called Face, errrm, BA, no eerrrrm was it Hannable? no
    Murdock that's it Murdock. Some bloke called Murdock wrote a few
    words called the Debian Manifesto and not only saved everybody from
    SLS but also from Slack. But it's ok you can still wear the Bob t-
    shirt if you like Slacks still cool, in a retro way it's just not
    valid distro anymore

    sparkes




  8. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    sparkes wrote:
    > On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, fuzzix wrote:
    >> Or you can just use Slack

    >
    > Somethings never change like it's still 1993 in chateux Fuzzix.


    $ uname -sr
    Linux 2.6.23.1

    No, it's not vulnerable to the vmsplice root exploit.

    > Fuzzix accept it man, the world didn't pause in December 1993, we've
    > got some bad news to tell you. Frank Zappa died man,


    Frankie and Ministry are gone too, mate... thankfully.

    > I know it's a ****ter but some good things happened around that time
    > too you know. Some bloke called Face, errrm, BA, no eerrrrm was it
    > Hannable? no Murdock that's it Murdock.


    Howling mad he was, I believe.

    > Some bloke called Murdock wrote a few words called the Debian
    > Manifesto and not only saved everybody from SLS but also from Slack.


    Ah, now you're howling mad.

    So, is he going to save us from the evils of Linux with his GNU/Solaris
    or whatever that Indiana Jones thing's supposed to be?

    > But it's ok you can still wear the Bob t- shirt if you like Slacks
    > still cool, in a retro way it's just not valid distro anymore


    Valid? Elaborate. I don't own a "Bob" T-Shirt, but I am wearing a Black
    Flag T-Shirt. It's pretty slick.

  9. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Andrew Halliwell wrote:

    > Why courageous?
    > Shuttleworth's south african, y'know.
    > (Ubuntu's founder)


    Hi Andrew!


    The Chief is a nordic, blue-eyed, blonde man, AFAIK. Having it also
    with air-traffic....



    Kind regards,

    Daniel Mandic

  10. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    fuzzix wrote:

    > So, is he going to save us from the evils of Linux with his GNU/Solaris
    > or whatever that Indiana Jones thing's supposed to be?


    FWIW, it's not called "Indiana" any more, and it was never supposed to
    be "GNU/Solaris" (or even "his"... Sun were working on it long before he
    showed up). It's just Solaris, but open-sourced and with improvements
    in the bits that used to suck, which should make it more appealing to
    Linux folks who'd like to work on Solaris too...

  11. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Calum wrote:
    > FWIW, it's not called "Indiana" any more, and it was never supposed
    > to be "GNU/Solaris" (or even "his"... Sun were working on it long
    > before he showed up). It's just Solaris, but open-sourced and with
    > improvements in the bits that used to suck, which should make it more
    > appealing to Linux folks who'd like to work on Solaris too...


    I know that - I was having a bit of fun with sparkes.

    Also, OpenSolaris needs more support from Sun or it's brown bread.
    They're pimping it around college quite a bit (there are plans for
    partnerships with Sun for direction on the Unix components of the CS
    courses). Problem is, everyone with an interest in shells and daemons
    is already a BSD or GNU fanatic so things are a little... slow.

    I think GNU/Hurd gets more regard

  12. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    fuzzix wrote:
    > Also, OpenSolaris needs more support from Sun or it's brown bread.


    Heh... a lot of of the non-Sun folk in the OpenSolaris community think
    we're[1] trying too hard and should keep our noses out-- just goes to
    show you can't please everyone

    (Part of the problem is that there's been no product to actually support
    yet-- that changes somewhat next month with the release of OpenSolaris
    2008.05.)

    [1] Okay, so in the interests of full disclosure, I work for Sun

  13. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Daniel Mandic wrote:
    > Andrew Halliwell wrote:
    >
    >> Why courageous?
    >> Shuttleworth's south african, y'know.
    >> (Ubuntu's founder)

    >
    > Hi Andrew!
    >
    >
    > The Chief is a nordic, blue-eyed, blonde man, AFAIK. Having it also
    > with air-traffic....


    You don't know much about south africa do you?
    Afrikaans is rooted in dutch, which is where the white population originally
    came from.
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  14. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Andrew Halliwell wrote:

    > You don't know much about south africa do you?


    I don't think I know less. It depends on what someone references to...
    (I don't see and don't remember anything going with SA. Although, I
    know more worse to tell about, than I could tell you something nice
    from there :-|)

    > Afrikaans is rooted in dutch, which is where the white population
    > originally came from.


    Heidelbergensis!?

    Ah (/me declining gesture). Bleached out North-Afrikaans!



    Best regards,

    Daniel Mandic

  15. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:59:04 +0100, fuzzix wrote:

    >
    > And my granny is 86, you insensitive clod!


    My granny is a 286, you insensitive clod!

  16. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:59:54 +0100, Slower Than You wrote:

    >
    > I tried Ubuntu the other day. It wasn't half bad. In fact, at the rate
    > they're going it won't be long before linux is nearly as usable as
    > Windows.


    I've got a slightly modified version of Hardy running on an EEE PC and
    it's grand. Also have Ubuntustudio running on the box oopstairs and on
    the laptop I'm typing on, definitely worth a look, if not an install,
    especially if you're worried about getting lumbered with Vista.

  17. Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    Calum wrote:
    > fuzzix wrote:
    >> Also, OpenSolaris needs more support from Sun or it's brown bread.

    >
    > Heh... a lot of of the non-Sun folk in the OpenSolaris community
    > think we're[1] trying too hard and should keep our noses out-- just
    > goes to show you can't please everyone


    There's an OpenSolaris community?!

    > (Part of the problem is that there's been no product to actually
    > support yet-- that changes somewhat next month with the release of
    > OpenSolaris 2008.05.)


    True enough, but the distributions based on what's been released so far
    are pretty slick. If in actual OpenSolaris release at least matches that
    standard then you could have a roaring success on your hands.

    > [1] Okay, so in the interests of full disclosure, I work for Sun


    Gizza job!

  18. [OT] Re: Ubuntu reaping linux dividend

    fuzzix wrote:
    >
    > There's an OpenSolaris community?!


    Course there is



    > True enough, but the distributions based on what's been released so far
    > are pretty slick. If in actual OpenSolaris release at least matches that
    > standard then you could have a roaring success on your hands.


    Absolutely, they've done a great job, and Sun are as happy as anyone
    about that-- should see even more of them when our open source distro
    constructor tool is finished:


    Sun's own release isn't shaping up too badly either though:


    >> [1] Okay, so in the interests of full disclosure, I work for Sun

    >
    > Gizza job!




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