On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:39:44 GMT, Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler wrote:
>In article <87mzp2cj2q.fsf@tjahns.news.arcor.de>,
> Thomas Jahns wrote:
>: Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler writes:
>: > This is unlike PC style hardware where devices have a swapped pinout, and
>: > the
>: > common cables are wired straight-through.
>: IIRC the DB25 pinout for DCE vs. DTE is older than IBM PCs?
>Yes, it no doubt dates back to much earlier mainframes and serial terminals.

Yes, it's documented somewhere in some PDP-8 info I've got, dating from
the late '60s. So it's at least that old.

>Actual physical serial terminals are pretty rare these days,

I still use a couple...
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