Re: 6.5.19 Apps CD -- contents/license/etc

In article <4db74fa6.0402101706.126d5f63@posting.google.com>,
Benjamin Goldsteen <ben@inka.mssm.edu> wrote:
:I am working with someone who is no longer on IRIX support. I want to
:update him to at least IRIX 6.5.19m. That shouldn't be a problem, but
:I noticed that the 6.5.19 Apps CD is no available for (free) download.
: In the past, I've always worked with people on support (and the "f"
:stream) and so always had access to all the SGI/IRIX CDs. For someone
:not on support, it is legal to install stuff from the 6.5.19 Apps CDs
:on to their computer?

No :(

The SGI license is written very tightly. So tightly that if you
have two systems, X and Y, both under full support, and you have
full CD delivery for both X and Y, and you get two identical shipments,
one marked on the letter [outside the box] as being for X and the
other marked as being for Y, then if you were to use one of the CDs
delivered with respect to X in order to update Y, you would be
in violation of your license agreement and would have to stop using
IRIX on X immediately.

Using your copy of a CD to update someone else's system is right out.
Even if it's a Freeware CD.

Oh, and last time I checked, the SGI Netscape license was written such
that each and every user was required to download their own copy,
if you are getting it from the SGI download section. Personal use only
of the person who clicks on the agreement...
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In article <c0cc0p$dp0$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
[email]roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca[/email] (Walter Roberson) wrote:

: The SGI license is written very tightly. So tightly that if you
: have two systems, X and Y, both under full support, and you have
: full CD delivery for both X and Y, and you get two identical shipments,
: one marked on the letter [outside the box] as being for X and the
: other marked as being for Y, then if you were to use one of the CDs
: delivered with respect to X in order to update Y, you would be
: in violation of your license agreement and would have to stop using
: IRIX on X immediately.

I tell you what, Walter: If the FBI ever breaks down your door for installing
IRIX with the wrong media set, I'd be happy to send a cake with a file in it to
your jail cell. ;)


Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler :)

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Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler <nicoya@ubb.ca> wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <c0cc0p$dp0$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
> [email]roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca[/email] (Walter Roberson) wrote:[/color]
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> : The SGI license is written very tightly. So tightly that .....[/color]
[color=blue]
> I tell you what, Walter: If the FBI ever breaks down your door for installing
> IRIX with the wrong media set, I'd be happy to send a cake with a file in it to
> your jail cell. ;)[/color]

Walter doesn't fear the FBI, since he's in .ca. Lucky him. The rest
of us had better be careful not to mix our CDs, though!

Damian Menscher
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In article <c0do9i$jbo$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
Damian Menscher <menscher+sgi@uiuc.edu> wrote:

: Walter doesn't fear the FBI, since he's in .ca. Lucky him. The rest
: of us had better be careful not to mix our CDs, though!

Since when have borders stopped the long arm of american lawmakers?


Cheers - Tony 'Nicoya' Mantler :)

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In article <c0cc0p$dp0$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> [email]roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca[/email] (Walter Roberson) writes:
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> Using your copy of a CD to update someone else's system is right out.
> Even if it's a Freeware CD.[/color]

SGI is not the license holder for most of the stuff in the freeware
collections. I guess they would have a hard time trying to enforce
such a draconian policy.


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