Prob w/ virtual terminals - Setup

This is a discussion on Prob w/ virtual terminals - Setup ; On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 07:32 -0400, jayjwa wrote: > Lew Pitcher writes: > > > While your suggestion would work on most other distros, it appears that Ubuntu > > doesn't use the /etc/inittab at all. Instead, it uses scripts ...

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    On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 07:32 -0400, jayjwa wrote:
    > Lew Pitcher writes:
    >
    > > While your suggestion would work on most other distros, it appears that Ubuntu
    > > doesn't use the /etc/inittab at all. Instead, it uses scripts in the
    > > /etc/event.d directory to manage the process. The OP should check that the
    > > scripts /etc/event.d/tty[1-6] exist, and contain the requisite
    > > ~ exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty?
    > > line, along with the rest of the wrapper script.
    > >
    > > FWIW, Canonical replaced the usual init(8) with one of their own; telinit
    > > (which is a hardlink to init) returns
    > > ~ telininit (upstart 0.3.8)
    > > ~ Copyright (C) 2007 Canonical Ltd.
    > > when I execute "telinit --version" on my Ubuntu system.

    >
    > Ubuntu is stranger than I previously thought. They are truely creating
    > their own animal, mutated off of GNU/Linux and/or Unix (like Mac OSX).
    >
    >
    >


    There's not rule forcing the use of a System V style init. Though I
    do prefer it, just be cause it's pretty commonplace over the majority
    of *ix platforms.

    Many distros are experimenting with init replacements.

    Even a commercial system like Solaris has replaced the old Sys V style
    init. In the case of Solaris though, it's replaced by something
    pretty bad (IMHO).



  2. Re: Prob w/ virtual terminals


    I was looking at 'simpleinit' in the util-linux-(ng) suite at one
    point. I think it would work good for me because sysvinit is a bit
    overkill for my setup.

    The example config files for it in the source look easy to work with.

  3. Re: Prob w/ virtual terminals

    On Mar 2, 7:18 am, Two Ravens wrote:
    > Tom Newton wrote:
    > > As you can see, one of the patients at the state mental hospital
    > > has slipped away from his minders again and gained access to a
    > > computer. This happens now and then.

    >
    > > I quite reading his gibberish ages ago.

    >
    > Were that to be true you wouldn't be making this post would you?
    > [Assuming that you meant to write 'quit' that is.]
    >
    > > Regardless of which of his 1000 names he is posting under at the
    > > moment.

    >
    > Mayhap you could, for the enlightenment of the readers of this
    > newsgroup, list the 1000, or just 10 of other names under which you
    > contend I am posting.
    >
    > > He's quite harmless.

    >
    > I am indeed! However can the same be said of you? Your comments posted
    > in alt.os.linux.slackware for instance,
    >
    > > I run as root. A lot of people do. Why shouldn't I? I AM root here.
    > > And despite all the paranoid blather such as you have parroted
    > > here, we never have any problems because of it.

    >
    > run counter to current 'best practice' and allow you to 'shoot yourself
    > in the foot', which is purely a problem for you. However were others,
    > new to GNU/Linux, to follow your example they may lose data that they
    > cannot recover.
    >
    > If anyone wants to make a judgment on me via my recorded posts they are
    > free to look up my 'profile' in Google Groups, where they should be
    > able to find just about every post I've ever made to usenet. You on the
    > other hand seem to have a very short record of posts to usenet on
    > Google Groups, why, I can't find some posts that you made which *do*
    > appear on my clipboard but for some strange reason don't on your page
    > on Google Groups,http://tinyurl.com/3y5vheYour record on Google
    > Groups only goes back to February of this year, 69 posts, why is that,
    > are you ashamed of what you have posted?
    >
    > Or perhaps if seeking your posts we should seek those made under the
    > name of Alan Connor?
    >
    > It is difficult to try to throw mud at others, and stay clean, if you're
    > not prepared to stand by your own record, mines there, where's yours?
    >
    > To those tempted to follow any advice given by Tom Newton, Tom N, or
    > Alan Connor, I will say be very cautious, check with others on the
    > relevant newsgroup and then do see if the question has already been
    > answered on eitherhttp://www.google.com/linuxorhttp://groups.google.co.uk/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg
    >
    > This post will of course be archived by Google Groups, will Tom's post
    > to which it was a response be? If he makes a reply to this post, will
    > it be archived in Google Groups? Only time will tell.
    > --
    > Two Ravens
    > "Tom Newton, surely the William Topaz McGonagall of
    > alt.os.linux.slackware, and now, seemingly, comp.os.linux.setup and
    > comp.os.linux.misc.as well!"


    To continue with my problem re: virtual Terminals, I checked /etc/
    event.d and got the following listing:

    zeno@zeno-desktop:~$ ls -al /etc/event.d/
    total 92
    drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-15 19:17 .
    drwxr-xr-x 122 root root 12288 2008-03-16 11:25 ..
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 260 2007-09-16 22:13 control-al
    t-delete
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 299 2007-09-16 22:13 logd
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 552 2007-09-16 22:13 rc0
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 342 2007-09-16 22:13 rc1
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc2
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc3
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc4
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc5
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 422 2007-09-16 22:13 rc6
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 485 2007-09-16 22:13 rc-default
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 392 2007-09-16 22:13 rcS
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 461 2007-09-16 22:13 rcS-sulogi
    n
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 558 2007-09-16 22:13 sulogin
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302 2007-09-16 22:13 tty1
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty2
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty3
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty4
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty5
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty6

    In addition, I had re-installed UBU 7.10 and at first was able to
    access virtual console. But then I was offered the necessary updates
    for
    a new install and whack! there went the access. Would anyone know
    the significance of all this? When I clic Alt-Ctrl-F# the screen
    goes black,
    a little click is heard and the monitor goes into powersave mode. I
    clic Alt-F7 and back comes the GUI.
    So that's all I can offer and I hope that one of you are able to
    determine what gives here.

    Thanks, Geoffrey

  4. Re: Prob w/ virtual terminals

    zeno wrote:

    > To continue with my problem re: virtual Terminals, I checked /etc/
    > event.d and got the following listing:
    >
    > zeno@zeno-desktop:~$ ls -al /etc/event.d/
    > total 92
    > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-10-15 19:17 .
    > drwxr-xr-x 122 root root 12288 2008-03-16 11:25 ..
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 260 2007-09-16 22:13 control-al
    > t-delete
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 299 2007-09-16 22:13 logd
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 552 2007-09-16 22:13 rc0
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 342 2007-09-16 22:13 rc1
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc2
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc3
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc4
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 403 2007-09-16 22:13 rc5
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 422 2007-09-16 22:13 rc6
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 485 2007-09-16 22:13 rc-default
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 392 2007-09-16 22:13 rcS
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 461 2007-09-16 22:13 rcS-sulogi
    > n
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 558 2007-09-16 22:13 sulogin
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302 2007-09-16 22:13 tty1
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty2
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty3
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty4
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty5
    > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 300 2007-09-16 22:13 tty6
    >
    > In addition, I had re-installed UBU 7.10 and at first was able to
    > access virtual console. But then I was offered the necessary updates
    > for
    > a new install and whack! there went the access. Would anyone know
    > the significance of all this? When I clic Alt-Ctrl-F# the screen
    > goes black,
    > a little click is heard and the monitor goes into powersave mode. I
    > clic Alt-F7 and back comes the GUI.
    > So that's all I can offer and I hope that one of you are able to
    > determine what gives here.
    >
    > Thanks, Geoffrey


    I'm sorry the flame war got so distracting.

    Those don't normally run from the in it scripts: they're run out of
    /etc/inittabl. Can you review and post your contents of that file?

    I wondier if your expected "getty" for your terminal windows got changed in
    your update process.

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