DMA issues on install - Setup

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  1. DMA issues on install

    Hi Folks,

    Some of you may remember a while back that I had an old PC that I was
    trying to install FC4/5/6 on to, but for some reason I just never could,
    it kept giving me strange errors. Well I eventually decided that the mobo
    was knackered, and bought myself a completely new machine. What a palaver
    that was!

    Anyway, I gave the (as I thought) knackerd mobo and case etc to a mate,
    and he put first W98, and the XP pro on it without any problems.

    Anyway, I went to stop with him and my godsons over the easter break, and
    he told me he'd got it working and asked me if I wanted it back. I had a
    look at it, and saw that it was running xp.

    "Ah," says I, "But I wanted linux."

    Anyway, because of the job Chris does he had a lot of different distros
    immediately to hand.

    To cut a VERY long story short, we managed to successfully install RH5.2,
    W98 and WXP, but any version of linux > RH5.2 just wouldn't install.

    We tried (in no particular order)

    RH8 & 9, FC5 & 6, ubunto, Kubunto, DSL, SuSE9.3 & 10.something, GoboLinux
    and every single one failed with similiar errors.

    We could run knoppix and gobolive, and a (I think) DSL live, but could not
    write to the disk. We could read it, but only if it had a fat or ntfs
    partition.

    Chris finally worked out that the problem was to do with UDMA, and he
    /thinks/ that somehow the bios is switching UDMA66/100 on (but we couldn't
    find out how or where) and then the linux installers are either ignoring
    it, or trying to switch it on again, as there are references to PIO in the
    error messages. OR that UDMA is not switched on, but that the linux
    installers think it is.

    Unfortunately most of what I'm telling you here I don't truly understand,
    but if anyone can throw any light on this I'd be most grateful.

    Chris is even less of a linux person than I am, so is unable to help
    further, but he thinks there aught to be a way to tell the installer to
    ignore UDMA.

    Can any one advise please?

    Many thanks,

    Dave

    --
    Dave Stratford ZFCA
    http://daves.orpheusweb.co.uk/
    Hexagon Systems Limited - Experts in VME systems development


  2. Re: DMA issues on install

    On Apr 14, 8:18 pm, Dave Stratford wrote:
    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > Some of you may remember a while back that I had an old PC that I was
    > trying to install FC4/5/6 on to, but for some reason I just never could,
    > it kept giving me strange errors. Well I eventually decided that the mobo
    > was knackered, and bought myself a completely new machine. What a palaver
    > that was!
    >
    > Anyway, I gave the (as I thought) knackerd mobo and case etc to a mate,
    > and he put first W98, and the XP pro on it without any problems.
    >
    > Anyway, I went to stop with him and my godsons over the easter break, and
    > he told me he'd got it working and asked me if I wanted it back. I had a
    > look at it, and saw that it was running xp.
    >
    > "Ah," says I, "But I wanted linux."
    >
    > Anyway, because of the job Chris does he had a lot of different distros
    > immediately to hand.
    >
    > To cut a VERY long story short, we managed to successfully install RH5.2,
    > W98 and WXP, but any version of linux > RH5.2 just wouldn't install.
    >
    > We tried (in no particular order)
    >
    > RH8 & 9, FC5 & 6, ubunto, Kubunto, DSL, SuSE9.3 & 10.something, GoboLinux
    > and every single one failed with similiar errors.
    >
    > We could run knoppix and gobolive, and a (I think) DSL live, but could not
    > write to the disk. We could read it, but only if it had a fat or ntfs
    > partition.
    >
    > Chris finally worked out that the problem was to do with UDMA, and he
    > /thinks/ that somehow the bios is switching UDMA66/100 on (but we couldn't
    > find out how or where) and then the linux installers are either ignoring
    > it, or trying to switch it on again, as there are references to PIO in the
    > error messages. OR that UDMA is not switched on, but that the linux
    > installers think it is.
    >
    > Unfortunately most of what I'm telling you here I don't truly understand,
    > but if anyone can throw any light on this I'd be most grateful.
    >
    > Chris is even less of a linux person than I am, so is unable to help
    > further, but he thinks there aught to be a way to tell the installer to
    > ignore UDMA.
    >
    > Can any one advise please?
    >
    > Many thanks,
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > --
    > Dave Stratford ZFCAhttp://daves.orpheusweb.co.uk/
    > Hexagon Systems Limited - Experts in VME systems development



    check this out,
    http://tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/Ultra...tra-DMA-5.html
    zaher el siddik
    http://elsiddik.blogspot.com/


  3. Re: DMA issues on install

    Further to this, it was suggested I send you the following from the boot
    up process:


    Uniform MultiPlatform E-IDE drive Revision: 7.00alpha2
    ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
    SIS5513: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:02.5
    SIS5513: chipset revision 208
    SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe for irq's later
    SIS5513: SiS735 ATA 100 (2nd gen) controller
    ide0: BM-DMA at oxff00-oxff07, BIOS settings hdaMA, dhbMA
    ide1: BM-DMA at oxff09-oxff0f, BIOS settings hdcMA, hddMA
    hda: MAXTOR 91021u2, ATA DISK drive
    ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
    hdc: TOSHIBA CD_ROM XM-6402B, ATAPI CD/DVD ROM DRIVW
    ide1 at ox170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
    hda: max request size 128KiB
    hda: 20010816 sectors (10245MB) w/512KiB cache, CHS=198852/16/63,UDMA(66)
    hda: cache flushes not supported
    hda:<4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma_status == 0x61
    hda: DMA timeout error
    hda: dma timeout error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
    ide: failed opcode was: unknown
    hda: lost interrupt


    I hope this throws additional light onto the problem.

    Dave

    --
    Dave Stratford ZFCA
    http://daves.orpheusweb.co.uk/
    Hexagon Systems Limited - Experts in VME systems development


  4. Re: DMA issues on install

    In article <1176550081.159623.214370@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
    elsiddik wrote:

    [snip]

    > check this out,
    > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/Ultra...tra-DMA-5.html


    I've had a look at this, and TBH cannot see how it might help as it is
    referenceing 2.0 and 2.2 kernels. I'm trying to use much more recent
    kernels, which according to this page should work 'out of the box'.

    Can anybody else suggest anything please as this is starting to get real
    frustrating. It really is strating to look as if the mobo was designed
    very specifically for windows to the exclusion of anything else.

    Dave

    --
    Dave Stratford ZFCA
    http://daves.orpheusweb.co.uk/
    Hexagon Systems Limited - Experts in VME systems development


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