Angelocracy.com wrote:
> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>
Then there is something wrong with your CD!

Robert

On Apr 5, 1:13 pm, Robert Harris
wrote:
> Angelocracy.com wrote:
> > can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>
> Then there is something wrong with your CD!
>
> Robert


there is nothing wrong with cd

Angelocracy.com wrote:

> On Apr 5, 1:13 pm, Robert Harris
> wrote:
>> Angelocracy.com wrote:
>> > can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>>
>> Then there is something wrong with your CD!
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> there is nothing wrong with cd

Either your CD is no good, or your PC is broken.

If you set the BIOS to boot from CD, then it will boot from the CD.

On Apr 5, 11:37 am, "Angelocracy.com"
wrote:
> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work

When you say you set it to boot from cd, you mean you set your bios to
not just boot from cd, but if it has a "boot order", you added it to
the top of the list ABOVE the hard drive?

Angelocracy.com wrote:
> On Apr 5, 1:13 pm, Robert Harris
> wrote:
>> Angelocracy.com wrote:
>>> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>> Then there is something wrong with your CD!
>>
>> Robert
>
>
> there is nothing wrong with cd
>
In increasing order of difficulty to check:

- Is a USB storage device first in the list and/or did you leave an
unbootable one plugged in?

- Are you sure you made the correct change and that the CD is *BEFORE*
the hard disk in the bootable drives list?

- Has the BIOS RAM got corrupted?

- Is the battery backing up your BIOS RAM OK?

- have you checked/reseated all internal cables and cards?

If you've checked all this and the CD still doesn't boot than you've
either got a broken IDE controller or a broken CD drive.


--
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:37:57 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware, "Angelocracy.com"
wrote:

> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work

How old is this machine? There are 2 (at least) types of boot CD and somes
BIOSes do not understand or recognise the newer one. Anything made in, say, the
last 3 or 4 years should be fine with both. Hmm, yes, Google shows this as a
Pentium 166MMX so it's pretty old. Since you're posting to several linux groups
I presume this is a Linux CD you are trying to boot so maybe you could try a
different distribution which might use a different boot mechanism. I think the
safer one to look for is something called floppy disk emulation mode. Maybe a
BIOS upgrade might help too?

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Angelocracy.com wrote:
> On Apr 5, 1:13 pm, Robert Harris
> wrote:
>> Angelocracy.com wrote:
>>> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>> Then there is something wrong with your CD!

>> Robert

> there is nothing wrong with cd

Did you burn the .iso file or did you simply write it to the disk? It is a
common mistake.

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In article ,
"Trevor Hemsley" writes:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:37:57 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware, "Angelocracy.com"
> wrote:
>
>> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>
> How old is this machine? There are 2 (at least) types of boot CD and somes
> BIOSes do not understand or recognise the newer one. Anything made in, say, the
> last 3 or 4 years should be fine with both. Hmm, yes, Google shows this as a
> Pentium 166MMX so it's pretty old.

That quite possibly explains why a machine of mine, which is about 7
years old, wouldn't boot from some CDs, like Knoppix or the Fedora Live
CD, despite me setting the boot order to: floppy, CD, hard disk. I
hadn't paid too much attention to why this was, but found that booting
from a floppy which then offers a choice of booting from CD got round
the problem nicely. This work-around might suit Angelocracy.com too.

I happened to use a China-DOS Union DOS boot disk which does this. If
you don't have a suitable floppy boot disk, a quick google reveals a
number, such as http://bootcd.narod.ru/index_e.htm

--
Tim Clark

Tim Clark wrote:
> That quite possibly explains why a machine of mine, which is about 7
> years old, wouldn't boot from some CDs, like Knoppix or the Fedora Live
> CD, despite me setting the boot order to: floppy, CD, hard disk. I
> hadn't paid too much attention to why this was, but found that booting
> from a floppy which then offers a choice of booting from CD got round
> the problem nicely. This work-around might suit Angelocracy.com too.
>
If you have a working Linux configuration its a good idea to make a GRUB
boot floppy. The result boots into GRUB and presents a booting command
line which you can use to boot almost any OS from any device that the
BIOS can access. Note that GRUB itself uses the BIOS to access the
drives, so if its a drive that your BIOS can't access, than GRUB can't
either. "info grub" will tell you how to do this.

The other possibility is to make a Tom's Rootboot floppy. This is a
minimal Linux system that boots from a single floppy to act as a rescue
disk. Get it here: http://www.toms.net/rb/


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In ,
Trevor Hemsley wrote:

> How old is this machine? There are 2 (at least) types of boot CD and
> somes BIOSes do not understand or recognise the newer one. Anything
> made in, say, the last 3 or 4 years should be fine with both. Hmm,
> yes, Google shows this as a Pentium 166MMX so it's pretty old. Since
> you're posting to several linux groups I presume this is a Linux CD
> you are trying to boot so maybe you could try a different distribution
> which might use a different boot mechanism. I think the safer one to
> look for is something called floppy disk emulation mode. Maybe a BIOS
> upgrade might help too?

My Toshiba Tecra S1 laptop won't boot System Rescue CD, but it does boot
Debian, Ubuntu and Knoppix. Can anyone recommend a good alternative to
SRCD with a more conservative approach to booting? As good as Ubuntu and
Knoppix are, the GUI is usually just a big waste of time for the sort of
tasks SRCD is handy for. Mind you, being able to browse the web and all
that, including support for wifi with WPA, while installing Ubuntu is
pretty cool.

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In comp.os.linux.hardware Tim Clark wrote:
>
> That quite possibly explains why a machine of mine, which is about 7
> years old, wouldn't boot from some CDs, like Knoppix or the Fedora Live
> CD, despite me setting the boot order to: floppy, CD, hard disk. I
> hadn't paid too much attention to why this was

I think there is just some weirdness with CDROM drives. Some drives just will
not boot with Linux disks.

http://markhobley.yi.org/linux/labor...rom/index.html

By swapping drives for alternative models, I have been able to boot from the
CDs using the same computer.

Update the wiki with drive models that just will not boot from Linux CDs.

Regards,

Mark.

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International: 0044 121 247 1596

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On Apr 5, 11:37 am, "Angelocracy.com"
wrote:
> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work


A little progress. . What was happening was it was set to boot from
cd. It did go and read the cd frist, then for some unknown reason it
the went to C drive and started windows. So i just said the hell with
it. I set the system to show hidden files. I deleted the hidden
widows system files, knowing this would mess up the system and widows
would not be able to run.

The I shut it down, the turn it back on.

It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.

When you burned the CD, did you simply copy the Knoppix ISO image onto a CD or
did you use the option to burn the ISO image as a bootable CD? If the former,
you have a CD as a coaster. Most CD burning packages have the option to burn an
ISO. I have CDBurnerXPPro, Nero, and Easy Burning on my system. All offer the
possibility of burning an ISO onto a CD to make it a bootable image... Ben Myers

On 8 Apr 2007 09:47:38 -0700, "Angelocracy.com"
wrote:

>On Apr 5, 11:37 am, "Angelocracy.com"
>wrote:
>> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>
>
>A little progress. . What was happening was it was set to boot from
>cd. It did go and read the cd frist, then for some unknown reason it
>the went to C drive and started windows. So i just said the hell with
>it. I set the system to show hidden files. I deleted the hidden
>widows system files, knowing this would mess up the system and widows
>would not be able to run.
>
>The I shut it down, the turn it back on.
>
>It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
>Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.
>

On Apr 8, 1:18 pm, Ben Myers
wrote:
> When you burned the CD, did you simply copy the Knoppix ISO image onto a CD or
> did you use the option to burn the ISO image as a bootable CD? If the former,
> you have a CD as a coaster. Most CD burning packages have the option to burn an
> ISO. I have CDBurnerXPPro, Nero, and Easy Burning on my system. All offer the
> possibility of burning an ISO onto a CD to make it a bootable image... Ben Myers
>
> On 8 Apr 2007 09:47:38 -0700, "Angelocracy.com"
> wrote:
>
> >On Apr 5, 11:37 am, "Angelocracy.com"
> >wrote:
> >> can not boot from cd, went to bios change it to cd, still does not work
>
> >A little progress. . What was happening was it was set to boot from
> >cd. It did go and read the cd frist, then for some unknown reason it
> >the went to C drive and started windows. So i just said the hell with
> >it. I set the system to show hidden files. I deleted the hidden
> >widows system files, knowing this would mess up the system and widows
> >would not be able to run.
>
> >The I shut it down, the turn it back on.
>
> >It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
> >Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.


I did not burn the cd, these are company made cd, I used them on
other notebooks and they work fine.

As I said before, there is nothing wrong with the cd.

>> >The I shut it down, the turn it back on.
>>
>> >It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
>> >Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.

Deleting Windows files won't have any effect on the software on the CD
loading.

> I did not burn the cd, these are company made cd, I used them on
> other notebooks and they work fine.
>
> As I said before, there is nothing wrong with the cd.

So now you know that the disk is starting. At that point I'd expect a menu
or message that tells you to hit certain keys to boot from the CD or other
to boot from the hard drive. Is that not happening?

What kind of hard drives/controllers are you using? Add in PCI controller
card? Sata hard drives? What mainboard? What HDD models? Is it possible that
this PC has hardware that isn't supported on the installation disk?

On Apr 8, 3:14 pm, "Noozer" wrote:
> >> >The I shut it down, the turn it back on.
>
> >> >It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
> >> >Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.
>
> Deleting Windows files won't have any effect on the software on the CD
> loading.
>
> > I did not burn the cd, these are company made cd, I used them on
> > other notebooks and they work fine.
>
> > As I said before, there is nothing wrong with the cd.
>
> So now you know that the disk is starting. At that point I'd expect a menu
> or message that tells you to hit certain keys to boot from the CD or other
> to boot from the hard drive. Is that not happening?
>
> What kind of hard drives/controllers are you using? Add in PCI controller
> card? Sata hard drives? What mainboard? What HDD models? Is it possible that
> this PC has hardware that isn't supported on the installation disk?


I did a search for ( linux gateway solo 9100 ) on google. It can
and has been done. not sure why I am have so much trouble.

this is a PII with a 10 gig hard drive

On Apr 8, 3:14 pm, "Noozer" wrote:
> >> >The I shut it down, the turn it back on.
>
> >> >It reads the cd. but then says invaid system disk. I have tried a
> >> >Knoppix CD and a Fedora CD.
>
> Deleting Windows files won't have any effect on the software on the CD
> loading.
>
> > I did not burn the cd, these are company made cd, I used them on
> > other notebooks and they work fine.
>
> > As I said before, there is nothing wrong with the cd.
>
> So now you know that the disk is starting. At that point I'd expect a menu
> or message that tells you to hit certain keys to boot from the CD or other
> to boot from the hard drive. Is that not happening?
>
> What kind of hard drives/controllers are you using? Add in PCI controller
> card? Sata hard drives? What mainboard? What HDD models? Is it possible that
> this PC has hardware that isn't supported on the installation disk?


Before I left home. I switch the hard drives. I took the hard drive
out of the gateway, put it another notebook, loaded linux, when I get
back home I will then put it back it the gateway, and see what happens