On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:29:08 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:

>Hi
>I post this a couple of days ago in redhat install group but it seems
>not to be very active. So in hopes I can get started correctly I am
>reposting here in this one group. I am not brand new to linux but
>setup one up is something I not had to do very much. I have been
>using linux enough to make it a pain now to do command line windows.
>For example the slashes and using ls and other command prompt.
>I threw the last in as that when I realized I have using linux more
>than windows. anyway below is copy of my post. Thanks.
>
>>Hi
>>I am trying to install fedora 5(amd-64) on a shuttle sn-25p
>>(http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SN25P.asp).
>>I can get it to install but the network does not work. I use dhcp.
>>From googling I believe I have to use the forcedeth with the force driver but I am
>>unsure how to do this. How do I determine exactly what driver fedora
>>picked? Should I not see an file for it under either /dev or
>>/dev/net? Do I have to use modprobe to add the driver? If so how? I
>>been use linux fairly regular now for about a year so I not a total
>>newbie but I just can not seem to understand this. If I can get past
>>this I of course yum to add my packages and I know the other problem
>>will probably be the audio drivers(VIA Envy24PT ) . Thanks
>
>Oh I should have added that when I do a ifdown, net restart, ifup I
>get a the rt18129 device does not seem to be present error message.
>Also ethtool does not see anything.

Oh I also found a procedure for gentoo but the recompiled the kernal
which I have not done.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/nforce-net-to-forcedeth.htm
The above is the gentoo reference.

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:25:17 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:29:08 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>I post this a couple of days ago in redhat install group but it seems
>>not to be very active. So in hopes I can get started correctly I am
>>reposting here in this one group. I am not brand new to linux but
>>setup one up is something I not had to do very much. I have been
>>using linux enough to make it a pain now to do command line windows.
>>For example the slashes and using ls and other command prompt.
>>I threw the last in as that when I realized I have using linux more
>>than windows. anyway below is copy of my post. Thanks.
>>
>>>Hi
>>>I am trying to install fedora 5(amd-64) on a shuttle sn-25p
>>>(http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SN25P.asp).
>>>I can get it to install but the network does not work. I use dhcp.
>>>From googling I believe I have to use the forcedeth with the force driver but I am
>>>unsure how to do this. How do I determine exactly what driver fedora
>>>picked? Should I not see an file for it under either /dev or
>>>/dev/net? Do I have to use modprobe to add the driver? If so how? I
>>>been use linux fairly regular now for about a year so I not a total
>>>newbie but I just can not seem to understand this. If I can get past
>>>this I of course yum to add my packages and I know the other problem
>>>will probably be the audio drivers(VIA Envy24PT ) . Thanks
>>
>>Oh I should have added that when I do a ifdown, net restart, ifup I
>>get a the rt18129 device does not seem to be present error message.
>>Also ethtool does not see anything.
>
>Oh I also found a procedure for gentoo but the recompiled the kernal
>which I have not done.
>http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/nforce-net-to-forcedeth.htm
>The above is the gentoo reference.

I have also now looked in dmesg but there is no reference to eth0
there

I also used lspci but am not sure if on board chips would show here
since I saw nothing( I did see the sound which I believed is on board
too)

I did do a modprobe forcedeth which it happily took but no results
changed.

spamkill@charter.net wrote:
> I have also now looked in dmesg but there is no reference to eth0
> there
>
> I also used lspci but am not sure if on board chips would show here
> since I saw nothing( I did see the sound which I believed is on board
> too)

lspci shows all pci devices, on board or separate cards. If the ethernet
chip doesn't show at all it's either broken or disabled from the BIOS
setup.

--
Markku Kolkka
markku.kolkka@iki.fi

WeOn Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:43:39 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:25:17 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:29:08 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>I post this a couple of days ago in redhat install group but it seems
>>>not to be very active. So in hopes I can get started correctly I am
>>>reposting here in this one group. I am not brand new to linux but
>>>setup one up is something I not had to do very much. I have been
>>>using linux enough to make it a pain now to do command line windows.
>>>For example the slashes and using ls and other command prompt.
>>>I threw the last in as that when I realized I have using linux more
>>>than windows. anyway below is copy of my post. Thanks.
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>I am trying to install fedora 5(amd-64) on a shuttle sn-25p
>>>>(http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SN25P.asp).
>>>>I can get it to install but the network does not work. I use dhcp.
>>>>From googling I believe I have to use the forcedeth with the force driver but I am
>>>>unsure how to do this. How do I determine exactly what driver fedora
>>>>picked? Should I not see an file for it under either /dev or
>>>>/dev/net? Do I have to use modprobe to add the driver? If so how? I
>>>>been use linux fairly regular now for about a year so I not a total
>>>>newbie but I just can not seem to understand this. If I can get past
>>>>this I of course yum to add my packages and I know the other problem
>>>>will probably be the audio drivers(VIA Envy24PT ) . Thanks
>>>
>>>Oh I should have added that when I do a ifdown, net restart, ifup I
>>>get a the rt18129 device does not seem to be present error message.
>>>Also ethtool does not see anything.
>>
>>Oh I also found a procedure for gentoo but the recompiled the kernal
>>which I have not done.
>>http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/nforce-net-to-forcedeth.htm
>>The above is the gentoo reference.
>
>I have also now looked in dmesg but there is no reference to eth0
>there
>
>I also used lspci but am not sure if on board chips would show here
>since I saw nothing( I did see the sound which I believed is on board
>too)
>
>I did do a modprobe forcedeth which it happily took but no results
>changed.

Well just in case someone else has this problem I will continue here.
After sneaking around the side with a usb to LAN adaptor I have
updated the box and installed nvidia drivers for my video
card(turbo6200c). What makes this interesting is now lspci now show
the Ethernet. I still can not however activate it. It says cable
unplugged ?. This is a little progress however and I will take what I
can get.

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:10:28 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:

>WeOn Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:43:39 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:25:17 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:29:08 -0500, spamkill@charter.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>I post this a couple of days ago in redhat install group but it seems
>>>>not to be very active. So in hopes I can get started correctly I am
>>>>reposting here in this one group. I am not brand new to linux but
>>>>setup one up is something I not had to do very much. I have been
>>>>using linux enough to make it a pain now to do command line windows.
>>>>For example the slashes and using ls and other command prompt.
>>>>I threw the last in as that when I realized I have using linux more
>>>>than windows. anyway below is copy of my post. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>I am trying to install fedora 5(amd-64) on a shuttle sn-25p
>>>>>(http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/SN25P.asp).
>>>>>I can get it to install but the network does not work. I use dhcp.
>>>>>From googling I believe I have to use the forcedeth with the force driver but I am
>>>>>unsure how to do this. How do I determine exactly what driver fedora
>>>>>picked? Should I not see an file for it under either /dev or
>>>>>/dev/net? Do I have to use modprobe to add the driver? If so how? I
>>>>>been use linux fairly regular now for about a year so I not a total
>>>>>newbie but I just can not seem to understand this. If I can get past
>>>>>this I of course yum to add my packages and I know the other problem
>>>>>will probably be the audio drivers(VIA Envy24PT ) . Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Oh I should have added that when I do a ifdown, net restart, ifup I
>>>>get a the rt18129 device does not seem to be present error message.
>>>>Also ethtool does not see anything.
>>>
>>>Oh I also found a procedure for gentoo but the recompiled the kernal
>>>which I have not done.
>>>http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/nforce-net-to-forcedeth.htm
>>>The above is the gentoo reference.
>>
>>I have also now looked in dmesg but there is no reference to eth0
>>there
>>
>>I also used lspci but am not sure if on board chips would show here
>>since I saw nothing( I did see the sound which I believed is on board
>>too)
>>
>>I did do a modprobe forcedeth which it happily took but no results
>>changed.
>
>Well just in case someone else has this problem I will continue here.
>After sneaking around the side with a usb to LAN adaptor I have
>updated the box and installed nvidia drivers for my video
>card(turbo6200c). What makes this interesting is now lspci now show
>the Ethernet. I still can not however activate it. It says cable
>unplugged ?. This is a little progress however and I will take what I
>can get.
Interesting unable to find my dvd I downloaded a new set of isos blew
them to CDs and tried again to reinstall. Everything worked no nic
problem and audio now works. It found all things that it should have.
I tried this again because of the other person(thank you) saying that
lspci should show the nic even thru it was on the motherboard. I had
tried reinstalling from the dvd before but this did not help. I found
the dvd later and booted and had it check the dvd , it said it was
fine. In retrospect I am glad this happened(my problem), I believed I
learned more in a couple of weeks than I have learned in a long time
just using linux.