I forgot to add that Red Hat/Fedora is pretty good in that regard,
but is still not as easy to tinker with/remaster as one would want
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lbrtchx
This is a discussion on Security and manageability minded LiveCD? - Security ; ~ Hi, ~ I am a LiveCD enthusiast who has been using kanotix, knoppix (since its 3.8 version ;-)) and FreesBIE and I have been minding for some time about using liveCD's as full blown servers ~ There is little ...
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Hi,
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I am a LiveCD enthusiast who has been using kanotix, knoppix (since
its 3.8 version ;-)) and FreesBIE and I have been minding for some
time about using liveCD's as full blown servers
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There is little and spotty information on this. yeah! you could
certainly run apache right off your knoppix distro, but is this the
way you would actually run your server?
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Very little is mentioned, if at all, about OS hardening and
protection such as what you could achieve with open source grsecurity,
SELinux, PAX, ...
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You find basically nothing here:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ux_LiveDistros
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and in his latest (very superficial book)
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/0132432749/
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"Live Linux(R) CDs: Building and Customizing Bootables", Christopher
Negus doesn't say anything about it
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Having something like a base-line sever liveCD that would let you
easily customize/remaster the rest to your liking would be superb!
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Probably there is something I am missing here, but I think running
your OS and the application stack from a live CD would be great, among
others, for security, manageability and versioning
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Any ideas, good links your know of?
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Thanks
lbrtchx
I forgot to add that Red Hat/Fedora is pretty good in that regard,
but is still not as easy to tinker with/remaster as one would want
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lbrtchx
Since you mention FreeBIE, you might consider http://www.trustedbsd.org/
> Since you mention FreeBIE, you might considerhttp://www.trustedbsd.org/
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right off the bat:
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" ... This project is still under development ..."
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and by the way I knew of it. I just checked to see how far along they
were
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I need a server, secure baseline to start remastering with my own
applications stack right now
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lbrtchx
lbrtchx@gmail.com:
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> I am a LiveCD enthusiast who has been using kanotix, knoppix (since
> its 3.8 version ;-)) and FreesBIE and I have been minding for some
> time about using liveCD's as full blown servers
>
> There is little and spotty information on this. yeah! you could
> certainly run apache right off your knoppix distro, but is this the
> way you would actually run your server?
Modern live cds will slurp themselves into RAM assuming you've enough
to do it (.5 Gb). So, why not if you know how to control it? If
you're remastering distros so your boots understand where and what
they are when they boot, what's the diff from running from disk?
Speed. Network latency may swamp that speed gain, but what the hey?
As long as your installs know where their loghost is, where /var is,
and how to talk dhcp (or static?), it should be great. Problem? Frob
it. Still problem? Hardware!
> Very little is mentioned, if at all, about OS hardening and
> protection such as what you could achieve with open source grsecurity,
> SELinux, PAX, ...
Go to distrowatch.com and search distro types related to security.
> Having something like a base-line sever liveCD that would let you
> easily customize/remaster the rest to your liking would be superb!
Sure. Lots of people suggest LFS/Linux From Scratch. I suggest you
build it. With busybox and expect and all the other whiz-bang tools
out there, it's really not that hard. You can even do it by pulling
individual debs/rpms off an install CD and dumping them into a loop
mounted iso filesystem. Throw something in there that gives it
something to boot from, and burn it. I think I'd start pulling stuff
off a Sidux live CD, myself.
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> On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, "s. keeling"wrote:
> ... I think I'd start pulling stuff off a Sidux live CD, myself.
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I think I would rather build from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features
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lbrtchx
> Having something like a base-line sever liveCD that would let you
> easily customize/remaster the rest to your liking would be superb!
> Any ideas, good links your know of?
> ~
This is not exactly what you are looking for as they can not be
customized,
but the tools they include may help you or give you ideas.
http://www.grml.org
http://cryptobox.org
> Any ideas, good links your know of?
> ~
> Thanks
> lbrtchx
GRML rocks!
http://www.grml.org
But it can't be customized, AFA