Moving hardware to a new server - SCO

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  1. Moving hardware to a new server

    Hi,

    I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    Pro motherboard.
    This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    completely new server?
    It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    flying blind, and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    system if at all possible.
    Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    your time.

    JavaBean.


  2. Re: Moving hardware to a new server

    javabean04@gmail.com wrote:

    > We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    > Pro motherboard.
    > This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    > drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    > completely new server?


    Your unamed version of SCO will range from very successful to impossible.
    Your highest "chance" of this working will be to use a Pentium3 motherboard.

    If you googled this newsgroup you would find hundreds of messages related to the
    extreme difficulty in accomplishing what you want to do.

    Good Luck!



  3. Re: Moving hardware to a new server

    javabean04@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    > We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    > Pro motherboard.
    > This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    > drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    > completely new server?
    > It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    > in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    > parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    > Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    > flying blind, and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    > system if at all possible.
    > Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    > your time.
    >
    > JavaBean.


    Since the system is down, you can't run uname -X to obtain
    information about the SCO version you are running. If you have
    an emergency boot floppy set, boot it on any pc to try to view
    the SCO release that it announces and post that information
    to the NG.

    My recommendation is to find someone local who can supply you with
    a bare-bones system: system board, memory, CPU, and case assembled
    and tested. Then you need only move your controller cards and hard
    drives to the new case.

    You have not said how many if any of the controller cards are ISA.

    Trying to find system boards with ISA slots is problematical today.

    Not knowing anything else about your present equipment, I would
    suggest a SuperMicro PT3DL3 system board. This is a PIII board
    that will support 1.4GHz PIII processor and has one ISA slot.

    Openserver 5.0.0 to 5.0.5 will run on PIII and should not be
    installed on anything faster than 1.4GHz PIII.

    The PT3DL3 has on-board Adaptec SCSI controller that you can
    use for the tape backup and SCSI CD-ROM(?) The onboard SCSI
    requires the ad160 driver which works with SCO 5.0.5 and up.

    If your unnamed Openserver 5 is prior to 5.0.5 then I would
    use the PT3DLE without onboard SCSI.

    Normally, I avoid using the RAID controller to support a
    SCSI backup tape so the systems I have built have always
    had the PT3DL3 system board.

    Even if you move the NIC controller from the old system
    to the new system, it will likely not work without running
    netconfig and modifying the hardware configuration since the
    PCI bus, device, and function number assigned to the NIC in the new
    system board will be different from the old system.
    (run hw on the new system when it is running and check to see
    what information it returns for the NIC.)

    The RAID controller will likely not be a problem. Just be sure
    to use your CMOS setup to force all components to their own
    IRQ. Don't share the IRQ between RAID controller with any
    other device. If you don't have IDE CD, you can disable
    onboard IDE controller and have access to IRQ 15 and 14.

    From my system:

    +---------------- Network Driver Configuration ----------------+
    | ||
    |Enter the configuration of 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI (3C905B):||
    | ||
    | PCI Bus: | 0____________________|v ||
    | Device: | 10___________________|v ||
    |Function: | 0____________________|v ||

    hw:

    Index: 7
    DeviceNum: 10
    Function: 0
    Bus: 0
    VendorId: 3Com Corporation
    DeviceId: 0x9055
    RevId: 0x24
    Command: 0x0017 Memory Enabled, I/O Enabled
    Status: 0x0210
    ClassCode: 0x020000 Ethernet controller
    CacheLineSize: 8 32 bit words
    HeaderType: 0x00 Single-function, Standard encoding
    BaseAddr[0]: I/O 0xb800
    BaseAddr[1]: Memory 0xe0000000, 32 bit space
    SubsysVendorID: 3Com Corporation
    SubsystemID: 0x9055
    InterruptLine: IRQ-10
    InterruptPin: INTA
    Min_Gnt: 0x0a
    Max_Lat: 0x0a


    Good luck.


    --

    Steve Fabac
    S.M. Fabac & Associates
    816/765-1670

  4. Re: Moving hardware to a new server

    javabean04@gmail.com wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    > We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    > Pro motherboard.
    > This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    > drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    > completely new server?
    > It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    > in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    > parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    > Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    > flying blind,


    I'd add the disks to a working OSR5 server and use that to read them.

    > and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    > system if at all possible.
    > Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    > your time.
    >


    Tony Lawrences site has some good information on migrating OpenServer to
    new hardware, I find it a bit hard to find.

    http://aplawrence.com/cgi-bin/indexget.pl?OSR5
    leads to
    http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/supertarxfer.html
    etc

  5. Re: Moving hardware to a new server


    wrote in message
    news:1155886098.348584.153180@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    > We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    > Pro motherboard.
    > This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    > drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    > completely new server?
    > It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    > in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    > parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    > Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    > flying blind, and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    > system if at all possible.
    > Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    > your time.


    The easiest solution would be to look at the old motherboard to find a part
    number, and then use Google or eBay to locate the exact same model.
    If you post the info here, one of us might even have the exact one you
    need laying about collecting dust.

    If any of your add-on cards are EISA (they look like ISA cards on
    steroids), you'll have an extremely difficult job ahead of you, even if
    you do find an exact replacement motherboard.

    And before you go through all this trouble, are you certain it's the
    motherboard at fault and not the power supply or the plug-in
    voltage regulator module?

    Bob



  6. Re: Moving hardware to a new server

    Hi all,
    Thanks for the responses even with limited info. We have migrated all
    hardware from one server to another server, without incident.
    Now I am back to the orginal issue that caused all this in the first
    place.
    After boot we receive a Panic Trap error;
    Panic : K_Trap mode trap type 0X0000000E
    Unexpected trap in Kernel Mode
    The the dump file, Server then reboots and Panic's again, needless to
    say this then becomes an endless loop until someone powers off the
    server.

    More info on the system;
    O/S is Open server release 5.0.0 built in 1997
    Ram is 130Mb
    Pentium Pro CPU 200Mhz
    Raid card is DPT PCI
    Stallion Card EISA
    LAN Card 3COM PCI
    5 Scsci HDD's apparently 2 have failed ?? No idea which is the main
    drive?

    This looks like a world of pain :-(
    Again thanks for all your help and assistance, this is the first time
    using these groups, very impressed.

    javabean04@gmail.com wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    > We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    > Pro motherboard.
    > This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    > drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    > completely new server?
    > It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    > in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    > parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    > Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    > flying blind, and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    > system if at all possible.
    > Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    > your time.
    >
    > JavaBean.



  7. Re: Moving hardware to a new server

    On 20 Aug 2006 22:28:39 -0700, javabean04@gmail.com wrote:

    >javabean04@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I am hoping to get some advice on the following scenario;
    >> We have an old unnamed server running SCO Open Server 5 on a Pentium
    >> Pro motherboard.
    >> This motherboard has now failed, can we move all hardware eg hard
    >> drives, Raid array, LAN card, video card and Stallion card to a
    >> completely new server?
    >> It's been a few years since I had to support SCO, but never really got
    >> in to this mess before. There is a certain programe installed and
    >> parameters set which of course nobody knows anything about, go figure.
    >> Asked what the DR was and they said this is is it, in other words I am
    >> flying blind, and hence would not like to reinstall or reconfigure the
    >> system if at all possible.
    >> Any further questions or answrs needed please let me know, thanks for
    >> your time.
    >>
    >> JavaBean.



    >Hi all,
    > Thanks for the responses even with limited info. We have migrated all
    >hardware from one server to another server, without incident.
    >Now I am back to the orginal issue that caused all this in the first
    >place.
    >After boot we receive a Panic Trap error;
    >Panic : K_Trap mode trap type 0X0000000E
    >Unexpected trap in Kernel Mode
    >The the dump file, Server then reboots and Panic's again, needless to
    >say this then becomes an endless loop until someone powers off the
    >server.
    >
    >More info on the system;
    >O/S is Open server release 5.0.0 built in 1997
    >Ram is 130Mb
    >Pentium Pro CPU 200Mhz
    >Raid card is DPT PCI
    >Stallion Card EISA
    >LAN Card 3COM PCI
    >5 Scsci HDD's apparently 2 have failed ?? No idea which is the main
    >drive?
    >
    >This looks like a world of pain :-(
    >Again thanks for all your help and assistance, this is the first time
    >using these groups, very impressed.
    >


    So are you sure the original motherboard was the problem? Are the
    register dumps the *exact* same as you received in the old server?

    In my experience a panic ending in E indicates a hardware issue.
    Problem (in my mind) now is that a number of things have changed by
    moving the hardware to a new server. Did you transfer the CPU and
    memory as well? Perhaps the power supply? Are the add-in cards
    getting the same IRQ as they did in the old server (rhetorical
    question)...

    Personally I would place all the components that were transferred into
    the new server back into the old server *exactly* as they were before
    (same slots, assuming nothing changed in the BIOS), fire it up and
    work the problem from that side. Or, check
    http://aplawrence.com/consultants.html to see if there is someone near
    you with SCO experience - Would save you MUCH trouble :-)


    Scott McMillan

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