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  1. [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    Hi list,

    right now I run a test setup for samba as a PDC, nearly everything works
    great but I have some issues / questions. One is related to the docs
    (samba howto collection), there is stated that it is not a good idea to
    have a local workgroup and create a domain with the exact same name and
    join the windows boxes ther. It is said that this will fail or at least
    it will have some problems. But here, what should I say, it worked like
    a charm. I kicked the boxes again out of the domain, rejoind them,
    purged the PDC stuff, restarted from scratch and tried it again, all the
    time with the same domain / workgroup / local DNS domain.
    As this is right now just testing I am a bit worried I may run into
    preblems if I do this in production networks. Could someone elaborate on
    this please?

    regards
    Michael

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  2. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    On Saturday 08 September 2007, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > there is stated that it is not a good idea to
    > have a local workgroup and create a domain with the exact same name and
    > join the windows boxes ther. It is said that this will fail or at least
    > it will have some problems. But here, what should I say, it worked like
    > a charm.


    I've done this for years, with both Windows DC's and Samba DC's, never had a
    problem (that I know of) related to the practice.

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  3. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    It is like it is so often... I don't find the passage in the docs
    anymore. I will report back if I find it again. In the meantime, onyone
    else with an opinion about that?

    regards
    Michael

    Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 21:46 -0400 schrieb Chris Smith:
    > On Saturday 08 September 2007, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > > there is stated that it is not a good idea to
    > > have a local workgroup and create a domain with the exact same name and
    > > join the windows boxes ther. It is said that this will fail or at least
    > > it will have some problems. But here, what should I say, it worked like
    > > a charm.

    >
    > I've done this for years, with both Windows DC's and Samba DC's, never had a
    > problem (that I know of) related to the practice.
    >
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  4. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    On Saturday 08 September 2007 20:12, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > Hi list,
    >
    > right now I run a test setup for samba as a PDC, nearly everything works
    > great but I have some issues / questions. One is related to the docs
    > (samba howto collection), there is stated that it is not a good idea to
    > have a local workgroup and create a domain with the exact same name and
    > join the windows boxes ther. It is said that this will fail or at least
    > it will have some problems. But here, what should I say, it worked like
    > a charm. I kicked the boxes again out of the domain, rejoind them,
    > purged the PDC stuff, restarted from scratch and tried it again, all the
    > time with the same domain / workgroup / local DNS domain.
    > As this is right now just testing I am a bit worried I may run into
    > preblems if I do this in production networks. Could someone elaborate on
    > this please?
    >
    > regards
    > Michael


    Please file a bug report with a clear reference to the chapter and section
    number that has the defective documentation. An extract of the actual text
    would help us to track this down and fix it.

    Spurious claims that the documentation is flaky does noone any good. Please
    help us to fix the documents if they are in error or are broken.

    Thanks.

    - John T.
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  5. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    Hi John,

    I am on it... it may take some time as I need to figure out all
    important PDC related stuff first before I have the time to reread the
    whole docs for suggestions about improvements and corrections.

    Right now I am fiddeling around with the user / machine / group scripts
    with user manager for domains (srvtools.exe from MS) and have some
    issues... tough to debug somehow. But that's for another thread

    regards Michael

    Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 21:35 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > Please file a bug report with a clear reference to the chapter and section
    > number that has the defective documentation. An extract of the actual text
    > would help us to track this down and fix it.
    >
    > Spurious claims that the documentation is flaky does noone any good. Please
    > help us to fix the documents if they are in error or are broken.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > - John T.


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  6. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    On Saturday 08 September 2007 23:07, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > Hi John,
    >
    > I am on it... it may take some time as I need to figure out all
    > important PDC related stuff first before I have the time to reread the
    > whole docs for suggestions about improvements and corrections.
    >
    > Right now I am fiddeling around with the user / machine / group scripts
    > with user manager for domains (srvtools.exe from MS) and have some
    > issues... tough to debug somehow. But that's for another thread
    >
    > regards Michael
    >
    > Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 21:35 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > > Please file a bug report with a clear reference to the chapter and
    > > section number that has the defective documentation. An extract of the
    > > actual text would help us to track this down and fix it.
    > >
    > > Spurious claims that the documentation is flaky does noone any good.
    > > Please help us to fix the documents if they are in error or are broken.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > >
    > > - John T.


    Thanks. I look forward to your input.

    Cheers,
    John T.
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  7. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    After half a year....

    http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/...samba-pdc.html found it by redoing all my previous PDC work almost from scratch. I had several other difficult / important things to do, but now I am back on the samba trail...

    so the passage is in the mentioned url at:
    "Joining Domain Fails Because of Existing Machine Account"

    it reads: "... Further, if the machine is already a “member of a
    workgroup” that is the same name as the domain you are joining (bad
    idea), you will get this message. Change the workgroup name to something
    else it does not matter what reboot, and try again."

    more soon... and again, sorry it took so long :/

    regards
    Michael

    Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 23:47 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > On Saturday 08 September 2007 23:07, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > > Hi John,
    > >
    > > I am on it... it may take some time as I need to figure out all
    > > important PDC related stuff first before I have the time to reread the
    > > whole docs for suggestions about improvements and corrections.
    > >
    > > Right now I am fiddeling around with the user / machine / group scripts
    > > with user manager for domains (srvtools.exe from MS) and have some
    > > issues... tough to debug somehow. But that's for another thread
    > >
    > > regards Michael
    > >
    > > Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 21:35 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > > > Please file a bug report with a clear reference to the chapter and
    > > > section number that has the defective documentation. An extract of the
    > > > actual text would help us to track this down and fix it.
    > > >
    > > > Spurious claims that the documentation is flaky does noone any good.
    > > > Please help us to fix the documents if they are in error or are broken.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.
    > > >
    > > > - John T.

    >
    > Thanks. I look forward to your input.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > John T.


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  8. Re: [Samba] workgroup > join domain with same name = no issue? I don't get it

    Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 23:47 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > On Saturday 08 September 2007 23:07, Michael Schmitt wrote:
    > > Hi John,
    > >
    > > I am on it... it may take some time as I need to figure out all
    > > important PDC related stuff first before I have the time to reread the
    > > whole docs for suggestions about improvements and corrections.
    > >
    > > Right now I am fiddeling around with the user / machine / group scripts
    > > with user manager for domains (srvtools.exe from MS) and have some
    > > issues... tough to debug somehow. But that's for another thread
    > >
    > > regards Michael
    > >
    > > Am Samstag, den 08.09.2007, 21:35 -0500 schrieb John H Terpstra:
    > > > Please file a bug report with a clear reference to the chapter and
    > > > section number that has the defective documentation. An extract of the
    > > > actual text would help us to track this down and fix it.
    > > >
    > > > Spurious claims that the documentation is flaky does noone any good.
    > > > Please help us to fix the documents if they are in error or are broken.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.
    > > >
    > > > - John T.

    >
    > Thanks. I look forward to your input.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > John T.


    After half a year....

    http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/...samba-pdc.html found it by redoing all my previous PDC work almost from scratch. I had several other difficult / important things to do, but now I am back on the samba trail...

    so the passage is in the mentioned url at:
    "Joining Domain Fails Because of Existing Machine Account"

    it reads: "... Further, if the machine is already a “member of a
    workgroup” that is the same name as the domain you are joining (bad
    idea), you will get this message. Change the workgroup name to something
    else it does not matter what reboot, and try again."

    more soon... and again, sorry it took so long :/

    regards
    Michael

    P.S.: ignore the first post, sorry for the top-post...

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