First of all it is Fedora 9 not fedora core 9 as since fedora 7 they
have merged the core and extras repositories doing away with the
"core" middle name
As I am typing this Fedora 9 released 6 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes, and
36 seconds ago.and yes the release is a full release not a Beta one
About your second question I am not quite sure but they must have put
the rescue disk bindled with the dvd itself ..need to check on that


Buck Rogers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've two questions:
>
> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?
>
> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
> have they bundled it within the install dvd?
>
> I'm currently running FC 8 and it has a separate resuce disk.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Buck

On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:29:46 -0700 (PDT), abhishek
wrote:

>First of all it is Fedora 9 not fedora core 9 as since fedora 7 they
>have merged the core and extras repositories doing away with the
>"core" middle name
>As I am typing this Fedora 9 released 6 days, 3 hours, 26 minutes, and
>36 seconds ago.and yes the release is a full release not a Beta one
>About your second question I am not quite sure but they must have put
>the rescue disk bindled with the dvd itself ..need to check on that
>
>
>Buck Rogers wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've two questions:
>>
>> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?
>>
>> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
>> have they bundled it within the install dvd?
>>
>> I'm currently running FC 8 and it has a separate resuce disk.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Buck

Abhishek,

Thanks for the education, and thanks for the info.

Regards,

Buck

On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:21 -0500, Buck Rogers wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've two questions:
>
> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?
>
> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
> have they bundled it within the install dvd?
>
> I'm currently running FC 8 and it has a separate resuce disk.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Buck

Yes it's out. The LiveCD serves as the rescue disk. In F9 they've added
overlays to the USB FLASH version which makes it possible to install
additional software and to modify it just like you would a normal Fedora
system. On my rescue FLASH drive I've added gparted, parted, Xemacs,
tcsh, ssh, my .csh, .ssh and .xemacs files. When you boot the LiveCD it
mounts all of the partitions on the system that you've booted on so you
can get to the /etc/ files of the injured system if you need to (you have
to su to root to do that). F9 also supports spinning a custom LiveCD if
you want, however using the overlay feature and doing yum installs is
easier.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Live

On Tue, 20 May 2008 05:50:11 -0500, General Schvantzkopf
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:21 -0500, Buck Rogers wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've two questions:
>>
>> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?
>>
>> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
>> have they bundled it within the install dvd?
>>
>> I'm currently running FC 8 and it has a separate resuce disk.
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Buck
>
>Yes it's out. The LiveCD serves as the rescue disk. In F9 they've added
>overlays to the USB FLASH version which makes it possible to install
>additional software and to modify it just like you would a normal Fedora
>system. On my rescue FLASH drive I've added gparted, parted, Xemacs,
>tcsh, ssh, my .csh, .ssh and .xemacs files. When you boot the LiveCD it
>mounts all of the partitions on the system that you've booted on so you
>can get to the /etc/ files of the injured system if you need to (you have
>to su to root to do that). F9 also supports spinning a custom LiveCD if
>you want, however using the overlay feature and doing yum installs is
>easier.
>
>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Live

General,

Thanks for the information. I'll DL the LiveCD.

Regards,

Buck

On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:15:28 -0500, Buck Rogers wrote:

> On Tue, 20 May 2008 05:50:11 -0500, General Schvantzkopf
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:21 -0500, Buck Rogers wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've two questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?
>>>
>>> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
>>> have they bundled it within the install dvd?
>>>
>>> I'm currently running FC 8 and it has a separate resuce disk.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> Buck
>>
>>Yes it's out. The LiveCD serves as the rescue disk. In F9 they've added
>>overlays to the USB FLASH version which makes it possible to install
>>additional software and to modify it just like you would a normal Fedora
>>system. On my rescue FLASH drive I've added gparted, parted, Xemacs,
>>tcsh, ssh, my .csh, .ssh and .xemacs files. When you boot the LiveCD it
>>mounts all of the partitions on the system that you've booted on so you
>>can get to the /etc/ files of the injured system if you need to (you
>>have to su to root to do that). F9 also supports spinning a custom
>>LiveCD if you want, however using the overlay feature and doing yum
>>installs is easier.
>>
>>http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Live
>
> General,
>
> Thanks for the information. I'll DL the LiveCD.
>
> Regards,
>
> Buck

On your regular F9 system you'll need to install the live-cd tools also.

Buck Rogers wrote:
> I've two questions:

> 1. Is FC 9 in full release or still in Beta?

If is a full release. The upgrade caused KDE to reboot itself as its first
action after finishing booting. This is KDE only not the system. I haven't
solved the problem yet so I still presume it is my problem. Gnome works fine.

> 2. I haven't seen a rescue disk for FC 9. Is there one available or
> have they bundled it within the install dvd?

Put in the install disk and use the rescue option. If I remember correctly it
was that way with 8 also.
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I currently have FC5 installed on a server, but the question is :what does
the "ant_" indicate in front of things like apache when doing a "rpm -qa"?

-- Herb

"Herb Stein" writes:

> I currently have FC5 installed on a server, but the question is :what does
> the "ant_" indicate in front of things like apache when doing a "rpm -qa"?
>
> -- Herb

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Ant

You do realize that FC5 has been unsupported for almost a year, so you
have not been getting patches and security updates?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle

HTH,

Marc Schwartz

"Marc Schwartz" wrote in message
news:m3od6gax2w.fsf@MagicKingdom.localdomain...
> "Herb Stein" writes:
>
>> I currently have FC5 installed on a server, but the question is :what
>> does
>> the "ant_" indicate in front of things like apache when doing a
>> "rpm -qa"?
>>
>> -- Herb
>
> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Ant
>
> You do realize that FC5 has been unsupported for almost a year, so you
> have not been getting patches and security updates?
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle

I realize that. FC5 was current when the server was last in production.
I'll grab the latest version tonight. Right now I'm just trying to
demonstate
feasibility of a concept to a client.

Thanks for you observation.

> HTH,
>
> Marc Schwartz

--
Herb
herb@herbstein.com

"Herb Stein" writes:

> "Marc Schwartz" wrote in message
> news:m3od6gax2w.fsf@MagicKingdom.localdomain...
>> "Herb Stein" writes:
>>
>>> I currently have FC5 installed on a server, but the question is :what
>>> does
>>> the "ant_" indicate in front of things like apache when doing a
>>> "rpm -qa"?
>>>
>>> -- Herb
>>
>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Ant
>>
>> You do realize that FC5 has been unsupported for almost a year, so you
>> have not been getting patches and security updates?
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle
>
> I realize that. FC5 was current when the server was last in production.
> I'll grab the latest version tonight. Right now I'm just trying to
> demonstate
> feasibility of a concept to a client.
>
> Thanks for you observation.

Not for nothing, but if this is a mission critical server, don't install
F9 and I would even advise against Fedora in general. There are those
who use Fedora on servers, but if you want an RH based, free Linux
distribution, check into CentOS. It is based upon RHEL, which is better
suited to server platforms, where stability, not having the latest
and greatest of everything, is the priority.

F9 right now has several components, including Xorg, which are
pre-release and given that we are less than 30 days since release,
updates have been fast and furious. I am running F9 on my laptop, but
would not recommend it for servers.

If you want to stay with Fedora, install F8 which is more mature at this
point and will be supported for a while yet.

My $0.02.

Marc

Marc Schwartz wrote:
> "Herb Stein" writes:
>
>> "Marc Schwartz" wrote in message
>> news:m3od6gax2w.fsf@MagicKingdom.localdomain...
>>> "Herb Stein" writes:
>>>
>>>> I currently have FC5 installed on a server, but the question is :what
>>>> does
>>>> the "ant_" indicate in front of things like apache when doing a
>>>> "rpm -qa"?
>>>>
>>>> -- Herb
>>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Ant
>>>
>>> You do realize that FC5 has been unsupported for almost a year, so you
>>> have not been getting patches and security updates?
>>>
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle
>> I realize that. FC5 was current when the server was last in production.
>> I'll grab the latest version tonight. Right now I'm just trying to
>> demonstate
>> feasibility of a concept to a client.
>>
>> Thanks for you observation.
>
> Not for nothing, but if this is a mission critical server, don't install
> F9 and I would even advise against Fedora in general. There are those
> who use Fedora on servers, but if you want an RH based, free Linux
> distribution, check into CentOS. It is based upon RHEL, which is better
> suited to server platforms, where stability, not having the latest
> and greatest of everything, is the priority.

CentOS, like RHEL, has a big problem. It's always at least a year if not 3
behind Fedora in open source toolkits. The result is that you have to go to
non-RHEL repositories, like EPEL and RPMforge, to get quite useful tools for
new services. I've been through this extensively with Xen, Musicbrainz, and
bugzilla, for years.

> F9 right now has several components, including Xorg, which are
> pre-release and given that we are less than 30 days since release,
> updates have been fast and furious. I am running F9 on my laptop, but
> would not recommend it for servers.
>
> If you want to stay with Fedora, install F8 which is more mature at this
> point and will be supported for a while yet.
>
> My $0.02.
>
> Marc

That makes good sense, and it's a straightforward upgrade down the road when
F9 has settled down a bit more.