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  1. FATAL: kernel too old

    Ok, so here's the story...

    I have/had a RH 8.0 box, then tried to update to FC4 from CD's, but
    that just kept crashing on the update. So what I ended up doing is
    getting all the deps to run yum and then did a yum update to FC4, that
    seemed to work ok. But, before I was going to reboot, I wanted to check
    the /boot dir and make sure everything was intact. Well, I came to
    find out that /boot/initrd-2.6.13-1.1526_FC4.img was not present. So I
    ran:

    [root@minime boot]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.13-1.1526_FC4.img
    2.6.13-1.1526_FC4
    /sbin/mkinitrd: line 327: 10003 Done echo access -w
    $t
    10004 Segmentation fault | /sbin/nash --quiet
    /sbin/mkinitrd: line 327: 10005 Done echo access -w
    $t
    10006 Segmentation fault | /sbin/nash --quiet
    /sbin/mkinitrd: line 327: 10007 Done echo access -w
    $t
    10008 Segmentation fault | /sbin/nash --quiet
    /sbin/mkinitrd: line 327: 10009 Done echo access -w
    $t
    10010 Segmentation fault | /sbin/nash --quiet
    no temporary directory could be found

    With no ideas on what to do, i found there was a mkinitrd update in the
    development tree, so i turned on my /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-devel.repo
    for yum. yum grabbed:

    Updating:
    mkinitrd i386 5.0.3-1 development
    305 k
    Updating for dependencies:
    glibc i686 2.3.90-12 development
    4.4 M
    glibc-common i386 2.3.90-12 development
    15 M
    glibc-devel i386 2.3.90-12 development
    1.9 M
    glibc-headers i386 2.3.90-12 development
    579 k

    and now i have

    [root@minime boot]# uname -a
    FATAL: kernel too old
    [root@minime boot]# ls
    FATAL: kernel too old


    on pretty much every command i issue. Any ideas?????


    -Zach


  2. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:

    > Ok, so here's the story...
    >
    > I have/had a RH 8.0 box, then tried to update to FC4 from CD's, but
    > that just kept crashing on the update. So what I ended up doing is
    > getting all the deps to run yum and then did a yum update to FC4, that
    > seemed to work ok.


    Bad idea.....

    > on pretty much every command i issue. Any ideas?????


    Boot from the FC4 installation CD into rescue mode, answer a few
    questions use chroot and install the kernel from the CD.

    Or better yet if you have an active internet connection on the system in
    rescue mode;

    rpm -ivh
    http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pu...6_FC4.i686.rpm

    The command above is one long line with a space after the '-ivh' portion
    (the first line) and before the rest (the second line).


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  3. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    So there is nothing that I can really do from the box in it's current
    state?


  4. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:

    > So there is nothing that I can really do from the box in it's current
    > state?
    >


    Not really, it's broken.

    You might want to use something like the SystemRescueCD and backup
    everything that is important.When done start fresh and do a clean
    install. If your having problems installing FC4 try do the installation
    in text mode. Updating from RHL8 to FC4 is not a good idea, to many
    changes in everything starting with the kernel, mkinitrd, initrd and so
    on. The 2.4 RHL8 kernel could not deal with all of the changes.

    Another thing is the glibc rpm version you installed, if you installed
    the wrong one (i686 version instead of the i386 version) then your
    system is pretty much hosed.

    Also do you realize you were installing developmental RPMS???

    For example, from;

    http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pu...6/Fedora/RPMS/
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    glibc-2.3.90-12.i386.rpm 12-Sep-2005 12:56 3.6M
    glibc-2.3.90-12.i686.rpm 12-Sep-2005 13:42 4.4M
    mkinitrd-5.0.3-1.i386.rpm 30-Sep-2005 18:07 305K

    And the kernel which was 2.6.13-1.1526_FC5 now as of October 3, 2005;
    kernel-2.6.13-1.1592_FC5.i586.rpm

    The latest FC4 equivalent packages are;


    glibc-2.3.5-10.3.i386.rpm 23-Aug-2005 14:07 4.2M
    glibc-2.3.5-10.3.i686.rpm 23-Aug-2005 14:07 5.7M
    mkinitrd-4.2.15-1.i386.rpm 20-May-2005 13:35 300K
    kernel-2.6.13-1.1526_FC4.i586.rpm 29-Sep-2005 22:48 16M
    kernel-2.6.13-1.1526_FC4.i686.rpm 29-Sep-2005 22:49 16M


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  5. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Yeah, I realize that I was installing the developments packages, that
    was how I was trying to fix the mkinitrd crapping out on me. That was
    the entire problem, the mkinitrd was seg faulting and I couldn't get a
    initrd img created.

    Right now I am trying to get the FC4 Rescue Disk to load, but it keeps
    crashing on load...so I have a whole nother can of worms to deal with
    today.

    Thanks for your help.


  6. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Yeah, I realize that I was installing the developments packages, that
    was how I was trying to fix the mkinitrd crapping out on me. That was
    the entire problem, the mkinitrd was seg faulting and I couldn't get a
    initrd img created.

    Right now I am trying to get the FC4 Rescue Disk to load, but it keeps
    crashing on load...so I have a whole nother can of worms to deal with
    today.

    Thanks for your help.


  7. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:
    > Yeah, I realize that I was installing the developments packages, that
    > was how I was trying to fix the mkinitrd crapping out on me. That was
    > the entire problem, the mkinitrd was seg faulting and I couldn't get a
    > initrd img created.
    >
    > Right now I am trying to get the FC4 Rescue Disk to load, but it keeps
    > crashing on load...so I have a whole nother can of worms to deal with
    > today.
    >

    If you cannot load an installation disk on a machine, I would suspect
    hardware problems, or BIOS not set to boot from installation disk. Rescue
    disk is usually on disk 1 of a distribution.

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  8. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Yeah, I have thought about that, but everything else loads/runs on this
    machine (windows 2k, knoppix boot disk, RH 8.0, etc...). So I am
    guessing that there is just something in the FC4 rescue/install process
    that doesn't mesh with our system. But I have no idea what that might
    be.


  9. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:
    > Yeah, I have thought about that, but everything else loads/runs on this
    > machine (windows 2k, knoppix boot disk, RH 8.0, etc...). So I am
    > guessing that there is just something in the FC4 rescue/install process
    > that doesn't mesh with our system. But I have no idea what that might
    > be.
    >

    Nothing has to mesh with your system. The first disk on a distro can run
    even with blank hard drives. Could your rescue disk be faulty?

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  10. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    I don't think so, but I suppose it is possible. I burned a 'Rescue
    Disk' and Disk 1 of FC4 and both crash immediately following the SCSI
    detection. I even tried to do linux dd and use install my drivers for
    my RAID controller (3ware Escalade 7500-4LP), that also created a seg
    fault/dump. This is so bizzare, I have no idea what the problem is.


  11. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    I don't think so, but I suppose it is possible. I burned a 'Rescue
    Disk' and Disk 1 of FC4 and both crash immediately following the SCSI
    detection. I even tried to do linux dd and use install my drivers for
    my RAID controller (3ware Escalade 7500-4LP), that also created a seg
    fault/dump. This is so bizzare, I have no idea what the problem is.

    I can do a rescue/install from RH 8.0 disk completely fine.


  12. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Just tested my disks on another system, they both work fine.


  13. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Just in case anyone needs this in the future, we got it. We have a
    Gateway g6-300 and were trying to install Fedora Core 4 (FC4). The
    CD-ROM on that computer doesn't not work with FC4 for some bizarre
    reason.


  14. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:

    > I don't think so, but I suppose it is possible. I burned a 'Rescue
    > Disk' and Disk 1 of FC4 and both crash immediately following the SCSI
    > detection. I even tried to do linux dd and use install my drivers for
    > my RAID controller (3ware Escalade 7500-4LP), that also created a seg
    > fault/dump. This is so bizzare, I have no idea what the problem is.


    The missing link has been found.... your drivers are built for which
    kernel??? 2.4 or 2.6???? You might have to visit the 3ware site and
    build the driver for the 2.6 kernel;

    http://www.3ware.com/support/downloadpageeng.asp?SNO=13

    http://www.3ware.com/kb/article.aspx?id=11843



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  15. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    zwilson@gmail.com wrote:

    > Just in case anyone needs this in the future, we got it. We have a
    > Gateway g6-300 and were trying to install Fedora Core 4 (FC4). The
    > CD-ROM on that computer doesn't not work with FC4 for some bizarre
    > reason.


    Without knowing the make and model number of the CD-ROM drive or the
    motherboard BIOS version of the Gateway G6-300 computer one can only
    guess that the problem may be the CD-ROM drive and/or the BIOS. Some
    CD-ROM drives (older ones pre 1995) and motherboard / SCSI / add on IDE
    cards BIOS's do not fully support the El Torito Bootable CD-ROM Format
    Specification v1.0. The Red Hat Linux 8 CD and Windows 2000 for example
    use a floppy emulation type booting while the Fedora Core 4 CD uses an
    ISOLINUX (non-emulation) boot method.


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  16. Re: FATAL: kernel too old

    Thanks for all your help. Easiest solution was to swap in a newer
    CD-ROM.

    Thanks again.


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