I'm not sure if this will be helpful to you but I accidentally ran across
this site: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html
I've looked on this site for many articles, etc. because linux is very
confusing to me to learn my way around. Maybe this page will be
interesting, I'm definately hopeful to understand linux better......... I
installed Mandrake 10.0 twice because I didn't check 'everything' to
install. it's an experienced users OS not what I'd call consumer friendly.
very time consuming to learn, it's not a windows-like OS, only on the
surface. I'm just learning but this is an initial reaction. I want to
learn more so I can understand why it would be in our company's interest to
think beyond Windows. Our company is building walls to protect itself with
virusware and firewalls making it more time-consuming for workers to work.
-- katy (I've used some Dos 6.0, Win95, Win98, W2k, WinXP; linux is a
world of operating difference)

From: "Daniel Koepke"
Subject: Re: Learning Curve...
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:32 PM

Sorry for not being more specific. My point was to try to give the
impression of my experience and what I have been used to in the past. I
went from DOS 5.0, to DOS 6.2, Win 3.11, Win95, Win98 and up until
recently (meaning the last couple of weeks of linux), Win 2K (at home and
work). So, that has been about 13 years, give or take. As for what I
was doing with DOS at that time...well, probably not much more than
changing directories and running executables

I realize rh7.3 is a bit on the old side, but I am new to all this and
this is what I had available. I have already updated the kernel and
installed several programs and updates successfully. I am not all that
concerned with being on the cutting edge, and seeing this is a secondary
computer, I am fine with that. I will likely be using this mainly for
basic computing needs plus an internet connection...well, that and just
to get a better feel for the linux environment.

So, it sounds like I could be looking at a few months with tutorials and
how-to's for what I will likely be doing. I am using gnome right now, so
the basic concepts, as you stated, are similar. I am just learning what
programs I really have available.

Thanks for your reply. does it really make much sends for me to be
looking for brand new releases if everything I have been doing on this
box is working fine?


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:43:57 -0500, Moe Trin wrote:

> In article , Daniel
> Koepke wrote:
>>In general, how long would you say that an experienced DOS and windows
>>user, would be up-to-speed in linux? I have been working with computers
>>since the DOS 5.0 era and always have been somewhat "techie".

> Ah, but what were you doing with DOS 5.0? The basic OS had 70 commands
> (plus 8 more used in batchfiles), and no networking.
> [compton ~]$ ls `echo $PATH | tr ':' ' '` | grep -Evc '(:|^$)' 1296
> [compton ~]$
> As a user, there are 1296 commands in my PATH (about 1650 as root), and
> networking is a way of life in *nix.
>>I just installed rh7.3 on an old PII I had sitting around and have
>>really enjoyed working on it, but still feel like a newbie (which is
>>such a strange feeling to me). All this is still foreign to me, but I
>>am certainly learning pretty quickly.

> RH7.3 came out in May 2002, and the official Red Hat support ended at
> the end of December 2003. There is still a limited amount of support
> from download.fedoralegacy.org, but it's a bit on the old side.
>>So, just a simple "opinion-question" to satisfy my curiousity! Thanks!

> How long did it take you to come up to speed in DOS 5? What are you
> trying to do in Linux? If you are just clicking on icons, it's not
> really that long - things are obviously different from windoze, but the
> basic concepts are similar. On the other hand, if you are trying to
> write scripts (the equivalent of batch files) to de-spam your mail on
> your ISP's mail server before you attempt to download, you will need a
> lot more time. The "Introduction to Unix" class I took a long time ago
> spent about a quarter of the semester just trying to bring us up to
> speed on 'vi' and 'mail' (two 3 hour classes per week). You'd also be
> hitting books pretty hard, because the 'man' pages aren't all that user
> friendly. Luckily, there are a bunch of 'HOWTOs' (if you installed them,
> look in /usr/share/HOWTO/), and more than twenty free books from the
> Linux Documentation Project. A few of those might be on your system too,
> but you can always go to http://tldp.org/guides.html
> Old guy