Re: Palm to iPhone migration resource

#1 08-25-2008, 04:06 AM

This is the second time I'm sending this. The first time it got wiped from
the server within a few minutes. Don't know why.

Also, I forgot to add that because the iPhone has no loudspeaker you can't
have alarms so you can't have a proper PIM.

"Harold Fuchs" wrote in message news:...
> Responses embedded.
> "Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote in message
> news:0dfoa4tcpfbd4kgmg1pvkbm8l0950tg3d1@gordol.org ...
>> Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Harold Fuchs said:
>>
>>> - No Java; Apple won't allow it
>>
>> Not a problem for me. I have never, ever, found an application on any
>> platform I've used written in Java that worked well or behaved right.
>> They've all been incredibly slow, over-large for their functions,
>> clunky to use, and didn't interact with their host environment well, if
>> at all.
>
> Java allows cross platform development to a much higher level than most
> other languages. Check out www.styletap.com for just one interesting
> example. I am not connected with this company in any way; I just want to
> buy its software from my iPod Touch.
>
>>
>>> - No Flash; Apple won't allow it.
>>
>> What's it needed for? With no Flash, that also means none of those
>> annoying ads in Safari.
>
> True no ads but also no "lots of other things"
>
>>
>>> - No way to categorise apps on the "desktop" or to put them into folders
>>
>> I stopped using categories in my Palm launcher a year ago. There are
>> no categories for shortcuts on my desktop, either.
>
> On your desktop you can make folders of similar applications - games,
> share analysis programs, dictionaries, ...
>
>>
>>> - WiFi not properly implemented - can't find an already paired but
>>> hidden
>>> network
>>
>> I haven't tried since I don't know of any hidden networks, but have you
>> tried using the "Other" entry? It's there specifically so you can
>> manually join a network that isn't listed. If someone is not
>> broadcasting the SSID, they're doing it for a reason.
>
> The idea is that once a network is known it is findable without it having
> to braodcast its SSID. Just like my WiFi notebook find my router; I have
> to supply the password but not the network details.
>
>>
>>> - No "serious" apps that don't rely on a Wifi connection to the
>>> web/internet
>>
>> Please explain what a '"serious' app' is.
>
> For years on my Palm I have been able to create, edit and read Word and
> Excel documents and to synchronise them freely between the Palm and my PC.
> This software "came in the box" with my Palm; yes I have upgraded it a
> couple of times over the years but the basic application came with the
> device.
>
> My Psion had a built-in database manager. I can get free DBMs for the Palm
> (ThinkDB for example) and any number of non-free DBMs. Can I
> create/edit/sync a database to my iTouch?
>
> Can't use the iTouch as a storage device.
>
> Offline maps with [homemade]overlays
>
> News Groups
>
> The only way to make the iTouch useful is to "jailbreak" it. Apple's
> restrictive practices won't allow application development that doesn't use
> its SDK.
>
>>
>>> - No way to put e-mails into folders unless the folders are already
>>> defined
>>> on Outlook/Mac
>>
>> I assume you're referring to an IMAP account. Why are you trying to
>> use the iPhone as your primary email client? Why don't you already
>> have your folders configured?
>
> Just my Googlemail account which I read with Thunderbird (no Sync to
> iTouch) or with a web browesr depending on where I am; again no Sync. Why
> do I have to depend on something like Outlook? Making folders isn't
> exactly hard. If I could sync, Synchronisation is a two way street - what
> I create on the PC goes to the iTouch and what I create on the iTouch goes
> to the PC. Except I can't create anything on the iTouch. It's just shoddy
> thinking.
>
>>
>>> - Cannot copy *individual* photos from iTunes; must "sync" and entire
>>> folder
>>
>> Or collections from Photoshop Elements or iPhoto.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand this comment.
>
>
> Sorry for the delay in responding ...
>
> Regards, Harold
>

#2 08-25-2008, 05:06 AM

"Harold Fuchs" wrote in message
news:g8tp70$e53$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> This is the second time I'm sending this. The first time it got wiped from
> the server within a few minutes. Don't know why.
>
> Also, I forgot to add that because the iPhone has no loudspeaker you can't
> have alarms so you can't have a proper PIM.

Whooops: should have said "iTouch". Of course the iPhone has a loudspeaker.
Sorry.

>
> "Harold Fuchs" wrote in message news:...
>> Responses embedded.
>> "Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote in message
>> news:0dfoa4tcpfbd4kgmg1pvkbm8l0950tg3d1@gordol.org ...
>>> Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Harold Fuchs said:
>>>
>>>> - No Java; Apple won't allow it
>>>
>>> Not a problem for me. I have never, ever, found an application on any
>>> platform I've used written in Java that worked well or behaved right.
>>> They've all been incredibly slow, over-large for their functions,
>>> clunky to use, and didn't interact with their host environment well, if
>>> at all.
>>
>> Java allows cross platform development to a much higher level than most
>> other languages. Check out www.styletap.com for just one interesting
>> example. I am not connected with this company in any way; I just want to
>> buy its software from my iPod Touch.
>>
>>>
>>>> - No Flash; Apple won't allow it.
>>>
>>> What's it needed for? With no Flash, that also means none of those
>>> annoying ads in Safari.
>>
>> True no ads but also no "lots of other things"
>>
>>>
>>>> - No way to categorise apps on the "desktop" or to put them into
>>>> folders
>>>
>>> I stopped using categories in my Palm launcher a year ago. There are
>>> no categories for shortcuts on my desktop, either.
>>
>> On your desktop you can make folders of similar applications - games,
>> share analysis programs, dictionaries, ...
>>
>>>
>>>> - WiFi not properly implemented - can't find an already paired but
>>>> hidden
>>>> network
>>>
>>> I haven't tried since I don't know of any hidden networks, but have you
>>> tried using the "Other" entry? It's there specifically so you can
>>> manually join a network that isn't listed. If someone is not
>>> broadcasting the SSID, they're doing it for a reason.
>>
>> The idea is that once a network is known it is findable without it having
>> to braodcast its SSID. Just like my WiFi notebook find my router; I have
>> to supply the password but not the network details.
>>
>>>
>>>> - No "serious" apps that don't rely on a Wifi connection to the
>>>> web/internet
>>>
>>> Please explain what a '"serious' app' is.
>>
>> For years on my Palm I have been able to create, edit and read Word and
>> Excel documents and to synchronise them freely between the Palm and my
>> PC. This software "came in the box" with my Palm; yes I have upgraded it
>> a couple of times over the years but the basic application came with the
>> device.
>>
>> My Psion had a built-in database manager. I can get free DBMs for the
>> Palm (ThinkDB for example) and any number of non-free DBMs. Can I
>> create/edit/sync a database to my iTouch?
>>
>> Can't use the iTouch as a storage device.
>>
>> Offline maps with [homemade]overlays
>>
>> News Groups
>>
>> The only way to make the iTouch useful is to "jailbreak" it. Apple's
>> restrictive practices won't allow application development that doesn't
>> use its SDK.
>>
>>>
>>>> - No way to put e-mails into folders unless the folders are already
>>>> defined
>>>> on Outlook/Mac
>>>
>>> I assume you're referring to an IMAP account. Why are you trying to
>>> use the iPhone as your primary email client? Why don't you already
>>> have your folders configured?
>>
>> Just my Googlemail account which I read with Thunderbird (no Sync to
>> iTouch) or with a web browesr depending on where I am; again no Sync. Why
>> do I have to depend on something like Outlook? Making folders isn't
>> exactly hard. If I could sync, Synchronisation is a two way street - what
>> I create on the PC goes to the iTouch and what I create on the iTouch
>> goes to the PC. Except I can't create anything on the iTouch. It's just
>> shoddy thinking.
>>
>>>
>>>> - Cannot copy *individual* photos from iTunes; must "sync" and entire
>>>> folder
>>>
>>> Or collections from Photoshop Elements or iPhoto.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't understand this comment.
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the delay in responding ...
>>
>> Regards, Harold
>>
>
>

#3 08-25-2008, 06:06 AM

In article news:, Harold Fuchs
wrote:
> ... because the iPhone has no loudspeaker ...

What? It's a phone that can't ring?

I am *sure* you must be mistaken.

Cheers,
Daniel.

#4 08-25-2008, 06:45 AM

"Daniel James" wrote in message
news:VA.000014c8.51e96f4b@nospam.aaisp.org...
> In article news:, Harold Fuchs
> wrote:
>> ... because the iPhone has no loudspeaker ...
>
> What? It's a phone that can't ring?
>
> I am *sure* you must be mistaken.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel.
>
Yes, I meant iTouch; I noticed just after hitting "Send" and sent another
immediately apologising but it must have crossed yours in the post.

Regards, Harold