I use a Palm m515 with a Win XP Pro PC. The PC, however, does not have
Outlook or MS Office installed. I will not change that. I use Outlook
Express for mail possibly moving to Seamonkey soon. I use Firefox as a web
browser, OpenOffice for word processing, spreadsheets etc. and my Palm & its
Desktop for calendar, address book etc.

If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?

I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
forums but ...
Surely the people making devices that run WM6 can't think everyone can
afford or wants to pay for Outlook & MS Office?

Harold Fuchs
London, England

Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Harold Fuchs said:

> If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?

I don't think you can. The Tilt I had tried over the past weekend even
came with a trial version of Outlook on the install CD.

I use Outlook myself. For the PIM functionality only, not for any
emailing capabilities. I initially did that because I needed the
address book integration with Word, but I've since found that Outlook
as a PIM, even as big as the program is, is better than Palm Desktop.

> I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
> forums but ...

Have you tried www.wmexperts.com ? It's owned (and run?) by the same
people who own and run www.treocentral.com .

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"Jeffrey Kaplan" wrote in message
news:7vam14ltgt3orpdk02isj3hafg02odh67v@gordol.org ...
> Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Harold Fuchs said:
>
>> If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?
>
> I don't think you can. The Tilt I had tried over the past weekend even
> came with a trial version of Outlook on the install CD.
>
> I use Outlook myself. For the PIM functionality only, not for any
> emailing capabilities. I initially did that because I needed the
> address book integration with Word, but I've since found that Outlook
> as a PIM, even as big as the program is, is better than Palm Desktop.
>
>> I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
>> forums but ...
>
> Have you tried www.wmexperts.com ? It's owned (and run?) by the same
> people who own and run www.treocentral.com .
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org

Thanks. I looked there (wmexperts) as you suggested but their search
mechanism is broken so I'll try again later.
Interesting to note too that their web server is Apache running on Fedora
Linux !!!!

I also use Outlook - I have not found any PIM as good - at least not
one that includes Palm sync. Outlook handles recurring appts better
than anything else.

I do use Outlook 2000 - pretty old! And I always thought I would have
to buy an all new Office, even though I use Open Office, Firefox, and
Thunderbird for everything else. But CDW sells Outlook by itself -
when I called to ask if this was a full license just for Outlook, they
said yes - but I still have not decided whether to go for a new
version.

My web hosting service provides a copy of Outlook if I switch to their
Exchange service - but I had enough of THAT when I worked in the
corporate world! I do use Imap so I can read email from any of my
computers. I don't really like web-based email.

Just my 2 cents.

Dan

On May 2, 8:01 am, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, Harold Fuchs said:
>
> > If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?
>
> I don't think you can. The Tilt I had tried over the past weekend even
> came with a trial version of Outlook on the install CD.
>
> I use Outlook myself. For the PIM functionality only, not for any
> emailing capabilities. I initially did that because I needed the
> address book integration with Word, but I've since found that Outlook
> as a PIM, even as big as the program is, is better than Palm Desktop.
>
> > I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
> > forums but ...
>
> Have you triedwww.wmexperts.com? It's owned (and run?) by the same
> people who own and runwww.treocentral.com.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> "I never knew you could be so devious, Commander." "Coming from you,
> Ambassador, that's a real compliment." (Amb. G'Kar and Cmdr. Sinclair,
> B5 "Born to the Purple")

Previously on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot, kronstadt@gmail.com said:

> I do use Outlook 2000 - pretty old! And I always thought I would have
> to buy an all new Office, even though I use Open Office, Firefox, and
> Thunderbird for everything else. But CDW sells Outlook by itself -
> when I called to ask if this was a full license just for Outlook, they
> said yes - but I still have not decided whether to go for a new
> version.

Last I checked, you can get each of the individual programs from Office
separately. But if you want more than one or two, it's probably less
expensive to buy the package.

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Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #21. I
will hire a talented fashion designer to create original uniforms for
my Legions of Terror, as opposed to some cheap knock-offs that make
them look like Nazi stormtroopers, Roman foot soldiers, or savage
Mongol hordes. All were eventually defeated and I want my troops to
have a more positive mind-set.

Harold Fuchs wrote:
> I use a Palm m515 with a Win XP Pro PC. The PC, however, does not have
> Outlook or MS Office installed. I will not change that. I use Outlook
> Express for mail possibly moving to Seamonkey soon. I use Firefox as a web
> browser, OpenOffice for word processing, spreadsheets etc. and my Palm & its
> Desktop for calendar, address book etc.
>
> If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?
>
> I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
> forums but ...
> Surely the people making devices that run WM6 can't think everyone can
> afford or wants to pay for Outlook & MS Office?
>
> Harold Fuchs
> London, England
>
>
A very late reply as I recently switched to a new news server after
Time Warner got rid of theirs.

Although I haven't yet tried these here are two alternatives I found.
There's a program called SyncExpress 3 which allows for syncing with
Outlook Express. Last I saw it costs $18 to buy.

Another item I have but not yet tried is FinchSync. Apparently this one
allows for syncing Thunderbird/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Lightning/Sunbird data.
I plan to test that one today sometime.
http://www.finchsync.com/

I don't use Outlook Express for anything but if FinchSync doesn't
work I might try SyncExpress if there's a trial version (of course
this means I'll have to export/import Palm or Thunderbird data).

Being a Palm user I was hoping to find something that allowed for
syncing between Palm data and Pocket PC. I did find something but
like a dummy I can't find where I wrote it down so I'll have to
search again.
There are alternatives but it's just a matter of whether or not they
work.

Marc

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"Marc D. Williams" wrote in message
news:g5o47s0c7e@news3.newsguy.com...
> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>> I use a Palm m515 with a Win XP Pro PC. The PC, however, does not have
>> Outlook or MS Office installed. I will not change that. I use Outlook
>> Express for mail possibly moving to Seamonkey soon. I use Firefox as a
>> web browser, OpenOffice for word processing, spreadsheets etc. and my
>> Palm & its Desktop for calendar, address book etc.
>>
>> If I move to WM6 how do I manage without Outlook and MS Office?
>>
>> I've trawled the net via Google and looked in several rather pathetic WM6
>> forums but ...
>> Surely the people making devices that run WM6 can't think everyone can
>> afford or wants to pay for Outlook & MS Office?
>>
>> Harold Fuchs
>> London, England
> A very late reply as I recently switched to a new news server after
> Time Warner got rid of theirs.
>
> Although I haven't yet tried these here are two alternatives I found.
> There's a program called SyncExpress 3 which allows for syncing with
> Outlook Express. Last I saw it costs $18 to buy.
>
> Another item I have but not yet tried is FinchSync. Apparently this one
> allows for syncing Thunderbird/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Lightning/Sunbird data.
> I plan to test that one today sometime.
> http://www.finchsync.com/
>
> I don't use Outlook Express for anything but if FinchSync doesn't
> work I might try SyncExpress if there's a trial version (of course
> this means I'll have to export/import Palm or Thunderbird data).
>
> Being a Palm user I was hoping to find something that allowed for
> syncing between Palm data and Pocket PC. I did find something but
> like a dummy I can't find where I wrote it down so I'll have to
> search again.
> There are alternatives but it's just a matter of whether or not they
> work.
>
> Marc
Sorry, I've been away. Just to say thanks. I will consider Finchsync and
SyncExpress although changing to either will be traumatic because my main
contact "book" is currently on a Palm sync'd with Palm Desktop. I only keep
e-mail addresses in my e-mail systems: Outlook Express on my floortop and
Thunderbird on my laptop with far fewer addresses. It's a real shame that
nothing seems able to import vCard files which Palm Desktop can export.
Unless you know better ;-) ?

Harold Fuchs
London, England