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  1. Please produce this Steve Jobs

    A few things were missing in that "cool", ad nauseam praised iPhone.

    There was no e-book reader (which is the most important app for me), text
    editor, 2 thumb keyboarding. Well, perhaps these are all included in the
    OSX.

    Its internet capablilities were "cool" but are we going to thumb, and thumb,
    and pinch, and pinch, just to see the whole nytimes.com page?

    Fot typing I need a full keyboard.

    So Steve Jobs, if you read this, please produce a hand held device with a
    22" folding screen (holographic perhaps), with full folding keyboard that
    will fit in my palm (hand gesturing, finger movement detection perhaps). I
    know you can do it. And I really don't care what operating system is on it,
    as long as it's a full OSX or the latest full Windows, with the latest
    graphics card.

    Oh, and I don't care if it's thin.



  2. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    "H500" writes:
    >
    > Its internet capablilities were "cool"

    But dated, it is a very expensive phone to not have 3G.

    I am strugging to see what it acheives over a Nokia N80.

    Phil

  3. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs


    H500 wrote:
    > A few things were missing in that "cool", ad nauseam praised iPhone.
    >
    > There was no e-book reader (which is the most important app for me), text
    > editor, 2 thumb keyboarding. Well, perhaps these are all included in the
    > OSX.
    >
    > Its internet capablilities were "cool" but are we going to thumb, and thumb,
    > and pinch, and pinch, just to see the whole nytimes.com page?
    >
    > Fot typing I need a full keyboard.
    >
    > So Steve Jobs, if you read this, please produce a hand held device with a
    > 22" folding screen (holographic perhaps), with full folding keyboard that
    > will fit in my palm (hand gesturing, finger movement detection perhaps). I
    > know you can do it. And I really don't care what operating system is on it,
    > as long as it's a full OSX or the latest full Windows, with the latest
    > graphics card.
    >
    > Oh, and I don't care if it's thin.


    Don't worry. I'm sure Steve and company can deliver everything you
    want. Remember how great the Newton was? (tongue planted firmly in
    cheek)

    Seriously though, the iPhone looks very interesting. Nothing wrong
    with competition to improve the entire breed. Consumers win with more
    companies competing with more ambitious products. Not sure if a 22"
    folding holographic screen and "gesturing" input is realistic anytime
    soon...

    Doug Hoffman


  4. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    wrote in message
    news:1168619595.490370.247480@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
    >
    > H500 wrote:
    >> A few things were missing in that "cool", ad nauseam praised iPhone.
    >>
    >> There was no e-book reader (which is the most important app for me), text
    >> editor, 2 thumb keyboarding. Well, perhaps these are all included in the
    >> OSX.
    >>
    >> Its internet capablilities were "cool" but are we going to thumb, and
    >> thumb,
    >> and pinch, and pinch, just to see the whole nytimes.com page?
    >>
    >> Fot typing I need a full keyboard.
    >>
    >> So Steve Jobs, if you read this, please produce a hand held device with a
    >> 22" folding screen (holographic perhaps), with full folding keyboard that
    >> will fit in my palm (hand gesturing, finger movement detection perhaps).
    >> I
    >> know you can do it. And I really don't care what operating system is on
    >> it,
    >> as long as it's a full OSX or the latest full Windows, with the latest
    >> graphics card.
    >>
    >> Oh, and I don't care if it's thin.

    >
    > Don't worry. I'm sure Steve and company can deliver everything you
    > want. Remember how great the Newton was? (tongue planted firmly in
    > cheek)
    >
    > Seriously though, the iPhone looks very interesting. Nothing wrong
    > with competition to improve the entire breed. Consumers win with more
    > companies competing with more ambitious products. Not sure if a 22"
    > folding holographic screen and "gesturing" input is realistic anytime
    > soon...
    >
    > Doug Hoffman



    What is really needed with the "cool" iPhone is the ability to hook to a
    real screen and a real keyboard. Thus you will be able work efficiently, as
    if you are working on a G5.

    Can you install "Indesign" on an iPhone?





  5. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    H500 wrote:

    > So Steve Jobs, if you read this, please produce a hand held device with a
    > 22" folding screen (holographic perhaps), with full folding keyboard that
    > will fit in my palm (hand gesturing, finger movement detection perhaps). I
    > know you can do it.


    How do you know they can do it when holographic screens don't exist? Or a
    folding keyboard that isn't a fragile piece of ****?

    > And I really don't care what operating system is on
    > it, as long as it's a full OSX or the latest full Windows, with the latest
    > graphics card.


    Why would you want one of the two most bloated (and in the case of Windows,
    outdated) desktop operating systems out there crammed into what should be a
    snappy, low powered device? Neither of those OS's are even ported to the
    chipsets the vast majority of mobile devices use. You need a little more
    specialization in the OS to pull off something both useful and responsive
    with a reasonable battery life and size.

    > Oh, and I don't care if it's thin.


    Then you really want a laptop.

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  6. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs


    H500 wrote:
    > What is really needed with the "cool" iPhone is the ability to hook to a
    > real screen and a real keyboard. Thus you will be able work efficiently, as
    > if you are working on a G5.


    A G5? That's a powerfull yet power-hungry 64-bit processor. I don't
    thing the iPhone can come close to that. Not to mention you will have
    only 4-8 Gig of memory. No. It will take far more than a screen and
    keyboard to get any where near what a G5 Mac can deliver.

    Doug Hoffman


  7. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    H500 wrote:

    > Can you install "Indesign" on an iPhone?


    No software may be installed on the iPhone.
    http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/12/0430200.shtml


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  8. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    In article ,
    Paul Johnson wrote:

    > No software may be installed on the iPhone.
    > http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/01/12/0430200.shtml


    No third-party software ... although we already know that's not true. I
    think some of the widgets shown with the iPhone were third-party
    products, and if the iPhone supports widgets then ...

    In general, the security framework around cell phones is much different
    from that for personal computers.

  9. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    "Paul Johnson" wrote in message
    news:353l74x2fo.ln2@ursa-major.ursine.ca...
    > H500 wrote:
    >
    >> So Steve Jobs, if you read this, please produce a hand held device with a
    >> 22" folding screen (holographic perhaps), with full folding keyboard that
    >> will fit in my palm (hand gesturing, finger movement detection perhaps).
    >> I
    >> know you can do it.

    >
    > How do you know they can do it when holographic screens don't exist? Or a
    > folding keyboard that isn't a fragile piece of ****?
    >
    >> And I really don't care what operating system is on
    >> it, as long as it's a full OSX or the latest full Windows, with the
    >> latest
    >> graphics card.

    >
    > Why would you want one of the two most bloated (and in the case of
    > Windows,
    > outdated) desktop operating systems out there crammed into what should be
    > a
    > snappy, low powered device? Neither of those OS's are even ported to the
    > chipsets the vast majority of mobile devices use. You need a little more
    > specialization in the OS to pull off something both useful and responsive
    > with a reasonable battery life and size.
    >
    >> Oh, and I don't care if it's thin.

    >
    > Then you really want a laptop.
    >
    > --
    > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


    Jobs presents the iPhone with an OSX; let's take the iPhone all the way -)



  10. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    H500 wrote:

    > Jobs presents the iPhone with an OSX; let's take the iPhone all the way
    > -)


    http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl.../01/13/1746234
    Looks like the iPhone won't be OSX after all.

    --
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  11. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    The iPhone will be a huge step forward in the world of device
    convergence -- I've always loved the Mac OS. However, today I read a
    couple of articles focused on the potential negatives of the proposed
    iPhone -- things I didn't think about when i first looked at it last
    week. For instance: it's a locked system -- you can't add any software

    to it; the network is limited to a slow Cingular system which is much
    slower than broadband or other wireless networks; there has been no
    mention of it's ability (or lack thereof) to syncronize with Microsoft
    Outlook for contacts, calendar, etc.; and it is unclear whether it
    will have the ablilty to open, read, edit, create or save documents
    (Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, Powerpoints, etc.) Lots of unanswered
    questions that may limit it's appeal to business users who currently
    use Trios or Blackberrys -- an obvious target for the iPhone market.


  12. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    The iPhone will be a huge step forward in the world of device
    convergence -- I've always loved the Mac OS. However, today I read a
    couple of articles focused on the potential negatives of the proposed
    iPhone -- things I didn't think about when i first looked at it last
    week. For instance: it's a locked system -- you can't add any software

    to it; the network is limited to a slow Cingular system which is much
    slower than broadband or other wireless networks; there has been no
    mention of it's ability (or lack thereof) to syncronize with Microsoft
    Outlook for contacts, calendar, etc.; and it is unclear whether it
    will have the ablilty to open, read, edit, create or save documents
    (Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, Powerpoints, etc.) Lots of unanswered
    questions that may limit it's appeal to business users who currently
    use Treos or Blackberrys -- an obvious target for the iPhone market.


  13. Re: Please produce this Steve Jobs

    The iPhone will be a huge step forward in the world of device
    convergence -- I've always loved the Mac OS. However, today I read a
    couple of articles focused on the potential negatives of the proposed
    iPhone -- things I didn't think about when i first looked at it last
    week. For instance: it's a locked system -- you can't add any software

    to it; the network is limited to a slow Cingular system which is much
    slower than broadband or other wireless networks; there has been no
    mention of it's ability (or lack thereof) to syncronize with Microsoft
    Outlook for contacts, calendar, etc.; and it is unclear whether it
    will have the ablilty to open, read, edit, create or save documents
    (Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, Powerpoints, etc.) Lots of unanswered
    questions that may limit it's appeal to business users who currently
    use Treos or Blackberrys -- an obvious target for the iPhone market.


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