Steven Folberg wrote :
> Hi,
>
> Well, I bought a refurbished T|C from the Palm Outlet Store about a year
> ago, and - son of a gun - it started decomposing not long after the
> 90-day warranty expired.
>
> First, the screen started whining. Okay I can live with that.
>
> Then, the WiFi started getting unreliable; major bummer - no more WiFi
> syncing to my PowerBook.
>
> Now - THE FREAKING APPLICATION BUTTONS STOPPED WORKING, ALL OF THEM!
> (Sorry for shouting, but I had to vent...) I press the Datebook, Address
> Book, Email or Web buttons, and nothing at all happens!
>
> Is this last problem a known T|C issue? And is the build quality on the
> E or TX any better? (My Clie SJ-33 developed mad digitizer disease after
> a year, too. Sheesh!)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Steve


Hello Steve...

I got a used T|C last year. I suppose the handheld is around 3 years
old... It works perfectly so far.

I have applied the OS patch avaible on Palm web site. It is said to help
Wifi connection. So far, the Wifi connection is not straight-forward :
with a free/open connection, it works ok. With WEP (WPA is not
possible), it hardly gets an IP address with DHCP, so I have to
configure all the IP settings manually. Once this is done, it works...

For the keys.... well I don't know. Mines are still ok so far...

Charly

In article <4535e2e9$0$13497$426a74cc@news.free.fr>,
Charly wrote:


>
> Hello Steve...
>
> I got a used T|C last year. I suppose the handheld is around 3 years
> old... It works perfectly so far.
>
> I have applied the OS patch avaible on Palm web site. It is said to help
> Wifi connection. So far, the Wifi connection is not straight-forward :
> with a free/open connection, it works ok. With WEP (WPA is not
> possible), it hardly gets an IP address with DHCP, so I have to
> configure all the IP settings manually. Once this is done, it works...
>
> For the keys.... well I don't know. Mines are still ok so far...
>
> Charly

Thanks for the response, Charly.

Yes, I have the latest patch installed (assuming we're talking about
that same one that's supposed to help with WiFi).

I could send that Tungsten C in for repair to Palm, but that's USD $169,
without shipping, and at that point, it probably pays more to buy a new
unit.

Thank you,

Steve

Steven Folberg aszonygya:
:I could send that Tungsten C in for repair to Palm, but that's USD $169,
:without shipping, and at that point, it probably pays more to buy a new
:unit.

I had 4 TC refurbs. They were all junks except for the last one. In the good
old days refurbs used to be like new. Not with the TC. /PaulN

"Steven Folberg" wrote in message
news:rebbi-129095.21493317102006@news-fe-01.texas.rr.com...
> Hi,
>
> Well, I bought a refurbished T|C from the Palm Outlet Store about a year
> ago, and - son of a gun - it started decomposing not long after the
> 90-day warranty expired.
>
> First, the screen started whining. Okay I can live with that.
>
> Then, the WiFi started getting unreliable; major bummer - no more WiFi
> syncing to my PowerBook.
>
> Now - THE FREAKING APPLICATION BUTTONS STOPPED WORKING, ALL OF THEM!
> (Sorry for shouting, but I had to vent...) I press the Datebook, Address
> Book, Email or Web buttons, and nothing at all happens!
>
> Is this last problem a known T|C issue? And is the build quality on the
> E or TX any better? (My Clie SJ-33 developed mad digitizer disease after
> a year, too. Sheesh!)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Steve
Sorry to hear your problems with T|C. My experience with one purchased new
2+ years ago have been totally acceptable.
After over 2 years of hard daily use and at least one drop per week (thank
god for aluminum aftermarket case) the machine's still chugging away.
To indicate how much wear my unit gets - the power button's green paint is
gone with some of the white plastic showing thru.
I put a new PalmOne screen protector on once a month since the old one is
usually starting to wear through in common use spots.
My screen whined right our of the box but I work in loud areas so don't
notice unless I wake in the middle of the night and want to make a note on
it... then the whine is always a surprise.
Overall - The T|C is the best built and most physically robust PDA I've ever
owned. The runner-up was the Handspring Treo90 that preceded this unit: I
owned 3 of them in about 4 years time since they didn't like being dropped
and were a little small for my ham-hands. ("Klutz")

Reading more of this thread - the $169 for a questionable refurb is news to
me. I've looked at eBay and seen complete "pristine" T|C's going for around
$100... might be worth a look?

Besst of luck
AvariceRising

I bought a T|C new in Guam 3 years ago and it's been rock solid ever
since. It has arguably been the best PDA I've ever used.

Call Palm and give 'em hell about yours falling apart. Regarless of
warantee they still have some responsibility don't they?

>
> "Steven Folberg" wrote in message
> news:rebbi-129095.21493317102006@news-fe-01.texas.rr.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Well, I bought a refurbished T|C from the Palm Outlet Store
about a year
> > ago, and - son of a gun - it started decomposing not long
after the
> > 90-day warranty expired.
> >

Decompose is a good word.
I had two TCs decompose on me.

> > First, the screen started whining.

Same here.

>Okay I can live with that.
> >
> > Then, the WiFi started getting unreliable; major bummer

Same here.

> >
> > Now - THE FREAKING APPLICATION BUTTONS STOPPED WORKING, ALL
OF THEM!
> > (Sorry for shouting, but I had to vent...) I press the
Datebook, Address
> > Book, Email or Web buttons, and nothing at all happens!
> >
> > Is this last problem a known T|C issue?

Not that I have heard of. Maybe just a loose connector? If it
is out of warranty, you may wanna open it up and take a look.
IIRC, disassembly instructions are at www.gethightech.com, and I
found the proper screwdriver @ a local Ace Hardware.

In my case, it would no longer power on at all (died
motherboard?). This same kind of TC death happened to a guy I
met at a conference.

Although I really liked the TC (except for the mono headphones
jack and being a tad overly thick), I switched back to my much
older, but much much sturdier/reliable imo, Visor Edge.


Regards,
Todd

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In article ,
nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) wrote:

> Steven Folberg aszonygya:
> :I could send that Tungsten C in for repair to Palm, but that's USD $169,
> :without shipping, and at that point, it probably pays more to buy a new
> :unit.
>
> I had 4 TC refurbs. They were all junks except for the last one. In the good
> old days refurbs used to be like new. Not with the TC. /PaulN

Yes, true. The best built Palm I ever had was my first one: a Vx. The
metal case was lovely. I used it for several years with no trouble,
until the digitizer went bonkers. This was a well-known fault in the
V/Vx and I didn't have the patience or expertise to take the thing apart
and try to fix it. Next I had a Clie Sj-33 that lasted about 18 months
before coming apart. Then the Tungsten C refurb that lasted maybe a year
before developing problems. And now, I have a TX. So far so good
(although the screen redraws are slower than the T|C.) But what is it
with the build quality of these PDA's now? >:-(

Take care,

Steve