SCSI DVD burners do not seem to exist (except that perhaps someone makes
an IDE burner with an internal IDE-SCSI adapter -- expensive).

I have polluted my formerly all-SCSI system by the addition of a Plextor
PX-708A IDE device, which seems to work fine with RSJ.

-=-
Alan


On 01/01/04 11:57 am Dilbert Firestorm put fingers to keyboard and
launched the following message into cyberspace:

> what dvd recorders/burners (IDE & SCSI) would anyone recommend for use
> with OS/2?

Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> what dvd recorders/burners (IDE & SCSI) would anyone recommend for use
> with OS/2?
>

PX-708A. Works well with both RSJ and UDF (write speed about 3.8 MB/s on
DVD+RW with both RSJ and UDF).

Ciao,
Dani

Just curious, but its really possible to write with that drive using just
the UDF filesystem (without RSJ installed)?
thanks


On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:56:26 +0100, Daniela Engert wrote:

ilbert Firestorm wrote:
:> what dvd recorders/burners (IDE & SCSI) would anyone recommend for use
:> with OS/2?
:>
:
:PX-708A. Works well with both RSJ and UDF (write speed about 3.8 MB/s on
VD+RW with both RSJ and UDF).
:
:Ciao,
: Dani
:

dinkmeister wrote:
> Just curious, but its really possible to write with that drive using just
> the UDF filesystem (without RSJ installed)?

Yes, that's true.

>
> :PX-708A. Works well with both RSJ and UDF (write speed about 3.8 MB/s on
> VD+RW with both RSJ and UDF).

Ciao,
Dani

I recently purchased an LG GSA-4040B which I was able to filter with
Daniela's DANIATAPI - and it worked.

Right now (as I wanted to have my AHA-2940UW the first SCSI-Bus and not
the virtual one) I have attached it via an ACARD IDE-UW-SCSI-converter
and it works pretty smooth wit CD-R in combination with RSJ and also
with Chris' CDR-Tools 2.0.
DVD's up to now I have only burned on DVD-RAM, this feature makes the
LG-burner unique! DVD-RAM are quite popular in far east, but seem to
come up here too for video-recorders. In fact they are told to be very
reliable for data storage (30 years!) and when a DVD-RAM ist inserted
into the drive it reports as a (removable) hard disk to the systen and
UDF-formatting, writing and all works. At that occasion I have posted
one remaining question in this newsgroop a few entries up:
news://news.btx.dtag.de:119/bs6nc0$b09$06$1@news.t-online.com

I am still looking for a way to write also DVD+/-R with OS/2
(ProDVD: I don't get a key right now from Joerg)

Ingo


Dilbert Firestorm schrieb:
> what dvd recorders/burners (IDE & SCSI) would anyone recommend for use
> with OS/2?
>

[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
Ingo
], who wrote in article :

> I am still looking for a way to write also DVD+/-R with OS/2
> (ProDVD: I don't get a key right now from Joerg)

Did you try to use the "other" cdrtools compile (by nikk?)? It has an
untested dvd-component, which I presume has no key.

Please report, I'm sure a lot of people wait for this info before buying...

Yours,
Ilya

Speaking of nickk's cdrtools, he says that he'll work to perfect the dvd+-r
support in cdrtools as soon as he can afford a dvd+-r drive. Me and a friend
have already donated a total of $60 to help him out. If you're interested in
donating, even a small amount, to help out a great freeware developer/porter,
go to https://secure.bmtmicro.com/ECommerc.../11980001.html

p.s. regarding that url: Security/2 is his other project, all money will go to him
though. See Security/2 on hobbes, http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/syste...lpha-0.2.1.zip
for confirmation of the above donations url. also, e-mail him (address is in the
Security/2 readme file) to let him know that your donation was for the cdrtools dvd
writer fund.

best regards,
- dink ( http://dink.org )


On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:20:37 +0000 (UTC), Ilya Zakharevich wrote:

id you try to use the "other" cdrtools compile (by nikk?)? It has an
:untested dvd-component, which I presume has no key.
:
:Please report, I'm sure a lot of people wait for this info before buying...
:
:Yours,
:Ilya

Hi Dilbert

LG GSA-4040B with a firmware revision of at least A300 because it can
handle dvd-ram as well as the dvd -/+ formats.

This burner can use udf formatted dvd-ram which in the tests that I have
tried so far is far quicker than any other method for putting data onto
a rewritable dvd disc. Here is a backup test as an example:-

After ide 10.127 update using PC-BaX Demo (V3.20) writing to UDF
formatted DVD-RAM:-

Backup Statistics
-----------------
Bytes Done: 759,697,046
Files Done: 12,963
Files Skipped: 0
Errors: 0
Time Taken: 00:10:19
Total Time: 00:10:27


I would do a comparison with RSJ and DVD+RW media using the above backup
but PC-BaX does not seem to work with RSJ attached media.

I downloaded a copy of BackAgain/2000 for evaluation so have used that
for this comparison. This is the same backup as above but I have deleted
some files in the meantime so it is a little smaller in size. Lifted
from the BackAgain logfile:-

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------
;
28-DEC-03 21:39:04 [id=8000] Backup for set 'BackUpG' started.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8003] Total active time for operation : 7:55.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8004] Total idle time for operation : 0:20.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8005] Total elapsed time for operation : 8:15.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8007] Processed 719.7 MB in 13837 files.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8006] Average throughput : 90.9 MB/min.
28-DEC-03 21:47:20 [id=8401] Backup completed normally.

Seems faster until you realise that you still need to Finalise the disc
which takes a further 5 minutes which, in fact makes RSJ and DVD+RW a
little slower for backup purposes than UDF formatted DVD-RAM.


Tests here suggest that dvd-ram is the media for udf formatting as
dvd+rw is very slow in comparison - both in formatting and writing.
Using a (eventually) udf formatted dvd+rw disc the above backup was
taking so long that I aborted it after 35 minutes, about 30% done.

The only downside that I have found with this LG dvd writer is that it
cannot use x10 speed CDRW discs for udf formatting. The format gets to
100% and then fails with a "media is write protected" error. It does
state in my LG manual that x10 cdrw are not supported so I cannot say
that I am surprised - RSJ can use these discs though: Maybe RSJ
automatically reduces/increases write speed.


I have not tried using the dvd extensions to cdrecord yet so cannot
comment on usability with that package.

Hope the above is of some use.

Regards

Pete



Dilbert Firestorm wrote:
> what dvd recorders/burners (IDE & SCSI) would anyone recommend for use
> with OS/2?
>

dinkmeister wrote:
> Speaking of nickk's cdrtools, he says that he'll work to perfect the dvd+-r
> support in cdrtools as soon as he can afford a dvd+-r drive. Me and a friend
> have already donated a total of $60 to help him out. If you're interested in
> donating, even a small amount, to help out a great freeware developer/porter,
> go to https://secure.bmtmicro.com/ECommerc.../11980001.html

Well, I've upped the donation. Now that DVD+ writers are available for
less than 100 Euros he should be able to get himself a writer real soon!

Ciao,
Dani