The OS/2 Guy wrote:
More insane lies.
The eCS Guy
This is a discussion on Serenity Caught Posting Customer Private Info - OS2 ; This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys: Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer. Information that was provided under the provision of ...
This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased
anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys:
Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed
private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer.
Information that was provided under the provision of
confidentiality and safekeeping.
This means your credit card information, personal data,
including residence and/or billing information, date
of birth, private telephone numbers and all other
confidential information you provided to either entity
as a requirement of a purchase is unsafe and apt
to be revealed. It is a criminal act as stipulated in the
account agreement of the consumer.
If you have an account with Serenity or with Mensys
you have every right to take legal action against
these two entities, to immediately demand your
private information be removed and to file a report
with the State Attorney General of Texas against
the business license of Serenity Systems aka
Managed Systems as well as the European
Consumer's Union against the business license
of Mensys.
No company or company official, no matter how
'important' they perceive themselves to be, have
the right to put your life and information in danger.
Bob St. John has done just that and disseminated
the information around the world.
--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com
--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
More insane lies.
The eCS Guy
On Tuesday, in article <42d3baa4_2@news3.prserv.net>
OS2Guy@Gmail.com "The OS/2 Guy" wrote:
> This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased
> anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys:
>
> Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed
> private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer.
He has not revealed anything of the sort, you terminal ****wit.
> Information that was provided under the provision of
> confidentiality and safekeeping.
There is no requirement of confidentiality about releasing a name WITHOUT
*any* other information. Saying that someone called "Chauvet" has
registered a copy of eCS is not against any US consumer protection law
(which wouldn't be difficult, considering how little data protection
exists for US citizens). Merely mentioning a name would not be contrary
to any EU data protection laws either: and our law is *very* swingeing
and powerful: fancy paying a EUR250,000 penalty for contravention?
Saying that *a* person named "Chauvet" is known to them reveals nothing
more than saying that a Smith, or a Schmidt, or a Farber, or a Chang, or
any other bloody surname has registered. Because there is NO WAY
WHATSOEVER that this information can be tied in to any ONE particular
individual.
Unless, of course, you claim that there is only one person in the entire
world called "Chauvet", and that you are him.
Do you?
--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk
"Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue que parce que je n'ai pas eu
le loisir de la faire plus courte."
Blaise Pascal, /Lettres Provinciales/, 1657
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
> On Tuesday, in article <42d3baa4_2@news3.prserv.net>
> OS2Guy@Gmail.com "The OS/2 Guy" wrote:
>
>
>>This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased
>>anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys:
>>
>>Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed
>>private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer.
>
>
> He has not revealed anything of the sort, you terminal ****wit.
Of course he has. Do you believe he is just lying and trying
to imply that the only "Chauvet" associated with this newsgroup
is "Larry Chauvet" thus, "Larry Chauvet" is the individual he
is claiming purchased eCS? Can he provide proof that any
"Chauvet" has purchased his product or is he lying, a trait
he is known for?
>
>>Information that was provided under the provision of
>>confidentiality and safekeeping.
>
> There is no requirement of confidentiality about releasing a name WITHOUT
> *any* other information.
Of course there is, especially when it is done to harm the person
behind the name, i.e., "Larry Chauvet". That's what this is all
about and we all know it. Boob has publicly declared a check
of his records indicate no record for Tim Martin but there is a
record for "Chauvet", whomever that is.
>Saying that someone called "Chauvet" has
> registered a copy of eCS is not against any US consumer protection law
It is if someone called "Chauvet" has a record that Boob has
access to. There is *no* record for Larry Chauvet ever purchasing
eComStation but there are account records for "Chauvet" with
Mensys.
> (which wouldn't be difficult, considering how little data protection
> exists for US citizens). Merely mentioning a name would not be contrary
> to any EU data protection laws either: and our law is *very* swingeing
> and powerful: fancy paying a EUR250,000 penalty for contravention?
Ahhh but here in the U.S. it is against the law and every potential
eComStation customer located in the U.S. needs to be aware
of Boob's illegal action of revealing the name of a customer
- WITHOUT that customer's express consent.
Let's see if Europe buyers can keep eComStation alive because
U.S. customers are going to be well-warned of Serenity's illegal
actions and strongly urged to avoid establishing an account
with Mensys.
> Saying that *a* person named "Chauvet" is known to them reveals nothing
> more than saying that a Smith, or a Schmidt, or a Farber, or a Chang, or
> any other bloody surname has registered.
Smith, Schmidt, Farber and Chang are not the subject of false
and ridiculous lies posted to the OS/2 newsgroups. THAT's
the difference here.
Bob is lying of course but that lie is going to cost him and
Mensys a lot of very bad publicity and many possible sales
of eComStation.
> Unless, of course, you claim that there is only one person in the entire
> world called "Chauvet", and that you are him.
>
> Do you?
Why would I do such a thing? Would you want me to lie
just to make you happy?
--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>> He has not revealed anything of the sort, you terminal ****wit.
>
>
> Of course he has. Do you believe he is just lying and trying
> to imply that the only "Chauvet" associated with this newsgroup
> is "Larry Chauvet" thus, "Larry Chauvet" is the individual he
> is claiming purchased eCS? Can he provide proof that any
> "Chauvet" has purchased his product or is he lying, a trait
> he is known for?
>
You think he is lying?
>
>
> Of course there is, especially when it is done to harm the person
> behind the name, i.e., "Larry Chauvet". That's what this is all
> about and we all know it. Boob has publicly declared a check
> of his records indicate no record for Tim Martin but there is a
> record for "Chauvet", whomever that is.
>
Ohh I don't think you are so uninterested in the identity, remember how
the FBI and HUD were contacted because somebody suggested taking a
picture at a post office box in San Francisco? FYI, I'm still waiting
for the FBI to follow up on your two complaints about me.
>
>
> It is if someone called "Chauvet" has a record that Boob has
> access to. There is *no* record for Larry Chauvet ever purchasing
> eComStation but there are account records for "Chauvet" with
> Mensys.
>
My what intimate knowledge you claim to have.
> Ahhh but here in the U.S. it is against the law and every potential
> eComStation customer located in the U.S. needs to be aware
> of Boob's illegal action of revealing the name of a customer
> - WITHOUT that customer's express consent.
>
There was no personally identifiable information, you're the one who let
the cat out of the bag. If you weren't so stupid you'd just have
quietly ignored it instead of doing your usual rant.
> Let's see if Europe buyers can keep eComStation alive because
> U.S. customers are going to be well-warned of Serenity's illegal
> actions and strongly urged to avoid establishing an account
> with Mensys.
>
My credit cards protects all my purchases, too bad you don't have a good
enough credit rating to get one. What kind of "Dr." can't get
themselves a credit card?
>
>
> Smith, Schmidt, Farber and Chang are not the subject of false
> and ridiculous lies posted to the OS/2 newsgroups. THAT's
> the difference here.
>
The difference is you don't know when to stay cool and instead show
everybody that you really are Larry when people talk about contacting
him or say the name appears on a list. Your frequent outbursts at
exposing who you really are are all the proof a sane rational person
needs. You really do feel threatened when people talk about Larry
Chauvet, since you are him.
> Bob is lying of course but that lie is going to cost him and
> Mensys a lot of very bad publicity and many possible sales
> of eComStation.
>
According to you and your ilk it doesn't sale so no sales were cost.
You aren't very bright.
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, in article <42d3baa4_2@news3.prserv.net>
>> OS2Guy@Gmail.com "The OS/2 Guy" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased
>>> anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys:
>>>
>>> Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed
>>> private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer.
>>
>>
>>
>> He has not revealed anything of the sort, you terminal ****wit.
>
>
> Of course he has. Do you believe he is just lying and trying
> to imply that the only "Chauvet" associated with this newsgroup
> is "Larry Chauvet" thus, "Larry Chauvet" is the individual he
> is claiming purchased eCS? Can he provide proof that any
> "Chauvet" has purchased his product or is he lying, a trait
> he is known for?
Actually, if you google the last time this exchange took place ... some
time ago, I said the same thing. No "Tim Martin" but a Chauvet. Your
reaction at that time was to say I was lying .. then to point out there
were hundreds of thousands of Chauvet's around the world and it could
have been any one of them. Again, taking both sides of your own argument.
Now ... you figure it must refer to "Larry Chauvet". I guess Dan's
outing of you as Larry Chauvet has worn you thin. Before .. it could
have been any one of sooo many. Now it *must* be a reference to *the*
one Chauvet.
I have no intention of "outing" Larry Chauvet or any other Chauvet. If
the Chauvets want a group purchase price, I'll work that out for them
.... and it will be a well kept secret. Such a well kept secret that
they may have already negotiated such a purchase and no one knows about
it! Perhaps that's where you got your copy!
If anyone has "outed" the poor Chauvets, it would be 'Tim Martin' and
his windy listings of this Chauvet in this state who runs this business,
and that Chauvet in the other state who runs this other business. If
anyone is guilty of posting personal information about the Chauvets, it
would be our own "Tim Martin".
Regards,
Bob St.John
Serenity Systems International
Bob St.John wrote:
> The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
>> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, in article <42d3baa4_2@news3.prserv.net>
>>> OS2Guy@Gmail.com "The OS/2 Guy" wrote:=
>>>
>>>> This is an alert to every person who has ever purchased
>>>> anything through Serenity Systems or Mensys:
>>>>
>>>> Serenity owner, Bob St. John, has publicly revealed
>>>> private information belonging to a Serenity/Mensys customer.
>>>
>>> He has not revealed anything of the sort, you terminal ****wit.
>>
>> Of course he has. Do you believe he is just lying and trying
>> to imply that the only "Chauvet" associated with this newsgroup
>> is "Larry Chauvet" thus, "Larry Chauvet" is the individual he
>> is claiming purchased eCS? Can he provide proof that any
>> "Chauvet" has purchased his product or is he lying, a trait
>> he is known for?=
>
> Actually, if you google the last time this exchange took place ... some
> time ago, I said the same thing. No "Tim Martin" but a Chauvet. Your
> reaction at that time was to say I was lying .. then to point out there
> were hundreds of thousands of Chauvet's around the world and it could
> have been any one of them. Again, taking both sides of your own argument.
You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
you have no record to check. Your claim is meant to harm
another person and family and to do so you are willing to lie
publicly and 'reveal' a customer's private information.
If you want to destroy your eCS business why don't you
just cut your own throat? You'd get far more sympathy.
Your stupid act harms you, eComStation, Serenity and Mensys
most of all. And it will come to haunt you each time Mensys
loses a sale because of your personal stupidity.
> Now ... you figure it must refer to "Larry Chauvet". I guess Dan's
> outing of you as Larry Chauvet has worn you thin. Before .. it could
> have been any one of sooo many. Now it *must* be a reference to *the*
> one Chauvet.
If it wasn't meant to harm Larry Chauvet then why did you claim
a "Chauvet" has purchased eCS? No other "Chauvet" is mentioned
in these OS/2 newsgroups. You certainly didn't say "Gates" or
"Johnson" when you associated the records in the same sentence
with my name.
Who is "Dan"? And has he been able to tie my AT&T IP address
to any other non-OS/2 Guy posting? If he could do that he might
have some credibility. What he is doing is publicly libeling an
innocent individual.
I am vocal about this, not because I know Larry Chauvet (I do not)
but because I would be vocal about this no matter whose reputation
and livelihood you set out to harm and destroy. Your act is and will
remain despicable. You might save some face if you publicly
apologized but you would never do that. Your ego is so inflated
and off the ground that you can't smell your own ****. And your
attempt to smear another person is downright ****. I'm going to
make sure you eat that **** as well as your distributor, Mensys.
> I have no intention of "outing" Larry Chauvet or any other Chauvet. If
> the Chauvets want a group purchase price, I'll work that out for them
> ... and it will be a well kept secret. Such a well kept secret that
> they may have already negotiated such a purchase and no one knows about
> it! Perhaps that's where you got your copy!
And I have no intention of letting up on your criminal act of
revealing private customer information, even if it isn't a real
customer. It's the idea that you would go to extreme vicious
lengths to harm an innocent family or individual.
With that truth so evident it is unlikely many will want to
do legitimate business with you. And the nice thing about it?
You **** on yourself.
> If anyone has "outed" the poor Chauvets, it would be 'Tim Martin' and
> his windy listings of this Chauvet in this state who runs this business,
> and that Chauvet in the other state who runs this other business. If
> anyone is guilty of posting personal information about the Chauvets, it
> would be our own "Tim Martin".
Any and all information I have ever posted about my employer and
his family is public knowledge. As you say it can be easily found
on the web. What can't be found is what you claim is on your 'records'
and that would be the name of "Chauvet". No such record exists.
The private information you have revealed is not public knowledge
and you want people to believe it is true to harm innocent people.
Any person who doubted your 'sleeze bucket' reputation before
now can't ignore it. I'm gonna shove down their throats every time
they beg me to back off. If you would stoop to this level to harm
an innocent family or person with fake information presented
as valid, there is no limit to what you do to a real eCS consumer
who dared tell the truth about your piss-poor product.
You dug your own hole on this one, Boob.
Mensys sure as hell can't be happy with their association
with you today, especially knowing public alerts are
going out in every newsgroup possible about your hateful
crime. And I'm going to make sure Mensys continues to
be reminded of their sad and sorry association with you
and eComstation.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your mistake
and how much easier it has now made my job to
expose you for what you really are.
As you are so fond of crowing: thank you for this
marketing moment.
--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
> You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
> you have no record to check.
> I am vocal about this, not because I know Larry Chauvet (I do not)
So, if you don't know Larry Chauvet, how do you know he didn't buy eCS?
Heck, how do you even know that no Chauvet purchased eCS? Did you call
them all to find out?
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
> You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
> you have no record to check.
Prove it.
Regards,
Bob St.John
Serenity Systems International
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
> You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
> you have no record to check.
How could you *possibly* know this, "Tim"? Did you call all of the
1000s of Chauvets and ask them?
Of course not. You are in full on panic mode now, because this piece
of evidence proves that there is no "Tim Martin".
Admit it Larry - you ****ed up royally with the above post.
The eCS Guy
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
> You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
> you have no record to check.
How could you *possibly* know this, "Tim"? Did you call all of the
1000s of Chauvets and ask them?
Of course not. You are in full on panic mode now, because this piece
of evidence proves that there is no "Tim Martin".
Admit it Larry - you ****ed up royally with the above post.
Here, let me throw YOUR OWN WORDS right back in your face:
"I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your mistake
and how much easier it has now made my job to
expose you for what you really are."
The eCS Guy
The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
> You are lying. No Chauvet has ever purchased eCS thus
> you have no record to check.
How could you *possibly* know this, "Tim"? Did you call all of the
1000s of Chauvets and ask them?
Of course not. You are in full on panic mode now, because this piece
of evidence proves that there is no "Tim Martin".
Admit it Larry - you ****ed up royally with the above post.
Here, let me throw YOUR OWN WORDS right back in your face:
"I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your mistake
and how much easier it has now made my job to
expose you for what you really are."
The eCS Guy