Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>
>

Hi there,

eComStation is the OS/2 follow up. Sometimes it is called
'OS/2 Warp Version 5'. See http://www.ecomstation.com.

Bye
Frank

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:11:26 +0300 in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
Henri Tapani Heinonen spake unto us, saying:

> What is the eComStation?

It's the client version of OS/2 Warp 4.52 plus various recent fixes and
various third-party drivers that IBM has given Serenity Systems formal
permission to distribute.

> Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on the eComStation?

Yes, as do the various OS/2 1.x and 2.x programs I've tried.

>Where can I get the eComStation?

I purchase my last copy (eCS 1.1) from www.mensys.nl

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Smyrna, GA USA
OS/2 + eCS + Linux + Win95 + DOS + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Anakor Himmelsläufer wrote:
> Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
>
>> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work
>> on the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>
> Hi there,
>
> eComStation is the OS/2 follow up. Sometimes it is called
> 'OS/2 Warp Version 5'. See http://www.ecomstation.com.

The claim that "eComStation is the OS/2 follow up" is pure
unadulterated malarkey. It is a minor third party vendor's
proprietary problematic product that uses a bastardized
older version of OS/2 and is so problematic that no large
customer [that would be an "Enterprise" customer] will
even consider it for use in their business.

Those who promote eCS have invested in it and are entirely
dependent upon conning others into buying it. It is far more
expensive then the "real" OS/2 and the consumer should
be warned before ever making such a ridiculous investment.

I have eCS v1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. Each version is a rip-off.
--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

Richard Steiner wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:11:26 +0300 in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
> Henri Tapani Heinonen spake unto us, saying:
>
>
>>What is the eComStation?
>
> It's the client version of OS/2 Warp 4.52 plus various recent fixes and
> various third-party drivers that IBM has given Serenity Systems formal
> permission to distribute.

The only 'formal' permission was a payment directly to IBM for
an OEM contract. Serenity Systems cannot change, alter, enhance,
or have access to any OS/2 source code whatsoever and their
OEM contract ends on December 31st, 2005 - and will not be renewed.

>>Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on the eComStation?
>
> Yes, as do the various OS/2 1.x and 2.x programs I've tried.

This is not true. eComStation has a great many problems and
the maker, Serenity Systems, provides no technical support
whatsoever. You buy it you are on your own when it fails to
install and fails to work. You cannot turn to IBM for assistance
and if you purchase it from within the U.S. then you have no
recourse at obtaining your more than $300 investment.

Anyone trying to convince you to purchase eCS is doing so
to enhance their own eCS investment. eCS is a dead product
unless eCS investors can con others into believing it is more
than what it is and that it actually works.

>>Where can I get the eComStation?
>
> I purchase my last copy (eCS 1.1) from www.mensys.nl

I have eCS v1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. Each version is a rip-off.

--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:11:26 UTC, "Henri Tapani Heinonen"
wrote:

-> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
-> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
->

eComStation (eCS) is an OEM version of the latest release of OS/2
(4.52) with an improved installer and additional drivers and a lot of
other niceties. See http://www.ecomstation.com

Be aware that there are a few truly psycotic trolls who will disparage
eComStation and attack people for mentioning eComStation. Even in the
comp.os.os2.ecomstation newsgroup, which shows what kind of trash they
are. They are either microsoft fudsters trying to wreck the only
decent chance left for OS/2 support or just insane. The OS/2-eCS
user community has a web site that explains how to ignore these
cretins - http://www.mr2ice.com/TMFaq/

Mark


--
From the eComStation of Mark Dodel

http://www.os2voice.org
Warpstock 2005, Hershey, PA, Oct 6-9, 2005 - http://www.warpstock.org

Mark Dodel wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:11:26 UTC, "Henri Tapani Heinonen"
> wrote:
>
> -> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
> -> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>
> eComStation (eCS) is an OEM version of the latest release of OS/2
> (4.52) with an improved installer and additional drivers and a lot of
> other niceties. See http://www.ecomstation.com

Not true. eComStation is a minor third party vendor's proprietary
problematic product that uses an older version of OS/2. The
installer fails to work on 9 out of 10 machines and the maker
has created no new drivers nor any other 'niceties'.

All the drivers needed for OS/2 come from IBM and are distributed
to all OS/2 customers with a maintenance contract. All the 'niceties'
are free and come from Hobbes, the world's largest depository of
OS/2 files.

See http://warpcity.com for a full review of eComStation (eCS)

> Be aware that there are a few truly psycotic trolls who will disparage
> eComStation and attack people for mentioning eComStation.

Be aware that there are several psychotic eCs investors who
will do and say anything to con others into buying the eCS
piece of crap and they will attack anyone who speaks the
truth about the eCS product.

> Even in the
> comp.os.os2.ecomstation newsgroup, which shows what kind of trash they
> are.

comp.os.os2.ecomstation is an OS/2 newsgroup - not an eComStation
newsgroup. eComStation lusers are restricted to news.ecomstation.nl
or to the eCS Yahoo Groups.

> They are either microsoft fudsters trying to wreck the only
> decent chance left for OS/2 support or just insane.

eCS psychotics rarely use eCS and if you check their headers
will find they are using a Microsoft operating system. IBM
fully supports OS/2 and will continue to do so through the
year 2019 when their last OS/2 Enterprise contract expires.

> The OS/2-eCS
> user community has a web site that explains how to ignore these
> cretins - http://www.mr2ice.com/TMFaq/

I have eCS v1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. Each version is a rip-off.

--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>
>

It should run all the old Warp programs, I have not heard of many that
do not.

One of the best things about ECS is the automatic update installer -
ECSMT (IMO)kind of like Windows Update.

I purchased the download version of ECS 1.2 from www.mensys.nl this past
Oct, prior to that I was running MCP2.

If you have anymore questions feel free to email me. I don't intend to
be rude, but your question has already set off our resident idiot and he
will now flood the newsgroup with crap.

greenemk _at_ cox _dot_ net

--
M Greene Voice Memeber #1356 (ICQ:319474014)

IRC (MikeG):
irc.va.webbnet.info #os/2 #learnc++ #os/2warp irc.ecomstation.com #eCS

OS/2 Stuff : http://members.cox.net/greenemk/os2/
My OpenWatcom : http://members.cox.net/mikeos2/

In article <42acc990_1@news3.prserv.net>,
The OS/2 Guy wrote:

> I have eCS v1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. Each version is a rip-off.

Sure Larry. Since you didn't pay for any of them, how could they be a
"rip off".

Dan

Michael Greene wrote:
> Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
>
>> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work
>> on the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>
> It should run all the old Warp programs, I have not heard of many that
> do not.

The problem with eCS is that it has proprietary code piled on top
of an older version of OS/2 leaving the product unstable unlike
IBM's latest release of OS/2, Warp 4.52.

> One of the best things about ECS is the automatic update installer -
> ECSMT (IMO)kind of like Windows Update.

Except it doesn't work. There are more reports on the installer
failing to work then reports that it works. eCS Consumers are
left in the lurch after buying eCS because they have no where
to turn for assistance. Hand-holding to get eCS installed on
is time consuming, frustrating, and often results in requests
for refunds which are ignored. eCS consumers are dependent
on the kindness of a handful of eCS consumers and if you
complain they will desert you, attack you publicly, ban you
from private eCS forums and claim you are unworthy of their
support.

> I purchased the download version of ECS 1.2 from www.mensys.nl this past
> Oct, prior to that I was running MCP2.

You'll note he doesn't say he is running eCS v1.2 - he just purchased
it in hopes that future investors will turn the product into something
usable.

> If you have anymore questions feel free to email me.

The *real* OS/2 community would appreciate that. Please take
your eCS problems to the eCS newsgroups or to the eCS Yahoo
Group forums where they belong.

> I don't intend to
> be rude, but your question has already set off our resident idiot and he
> will now flood the newsgroup with crap.

You see what I'm talking about here. If eCS were a product of value
it would stand on its own no matter what was said about it. To stop
the truth about eCS from being publicized, eCS investors will attack
anyone who speaks out or tells the truth about eCS.

I have eCS v1.0, v1.1 and the latest version 1.2 and all are failures,
do not install 'as advertised' and require additional monies be
spent to support the product.

Please take your eCS propaganda and spamming to the
news.ecomstation.nl newsgroup. It is a public newsgroup
that is heavily moderated by eCS officials. By moving there
you won't have to hear the truth about the eCS product.

--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

In article <42acfded_4@news3.prserv.net>,
The OS/2 Guy wrote:

> Please take your eCS propaganda and spamming to the
> news.ecomstation.nl newsgroup. It is a public newsgroup
> that is heavily moderated by eCS officials. By moving there
> you won't have to hear the truth about the eCS product.

Hey, Larry! Dumb ass! This *is* the eCS newsgroup!

Dan

Here in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
The OS/2 Guy spake unto us, saying:

>Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:11:26 +0300 in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
>> Henri Tapani Heinonen spake unto us, saying:
>>
>>>Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on the eComStation?
>>
>> Yes, as do the various OS/2 1.x and 2.x programs I've tried.
>
>This is not true.

Yes, it is. I haven't found a program yet that runs under Warp 4 and
that will not run under eCS 1.1, and I've spent a lot of time looking.

That includes utilities like 4DOS and 4OS2, FM/2, ClipIt, Hswitch, mc,
ManyCLip, FileJet, FTE, and others as well as applications such as Ami
Pro/2 3.0, Describe 5, StarOffice 5.1a, Embellish, and TrueSpectra
Photo>Graphics. Even WinOS2 programs like AOLPress and Visio 4 worked
just fine for me under eCS 1.1. I essentially ported my entire OS/2
working environment to my eCS box.

I thought you couldn't even install eComStation, Tim. How, then, would
you have any idea how well it actually runs OS/2 software? :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Smyrna, GA USA
OS/2 + eCS + Linux + Win95 + DOS + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?


All OS/2 v3 & v4 programs I use work(RSJ Cd Writer, Colorworks,
Mozilla etc.) You can get it easily from http://www.berggreen.dk/



Tero

Henri Tapani Heinonen wrote:
> What is the eComStation? Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on
> the eComStation? Where can I get the eComStation?
>

Sorry about double posting but I had some minor mistakes in my first
reply so here is a revised version

At least all programs I have used seem to work ok(Colorworks, Mozilla,
RSJ cdwriter etc.). Well from your name I assume you are from Finland
So if you want to buy ECS I think easiest solution for you is from
http://www.berggreen.dk/

Tero

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:54:02 UTC, Dan opined:
> In article <42acfded_4@news3.prserv.net>,
> The OS/2 Guy wrote:
>
> > Please take your eCS propaganda and spamming to the
> > news.ecomstation.nl newsgroup. It is a public newsgroup
> > that is heavily moderated by eCS officials. By moving there
> > you won't have to hear the truth about the eCS product.
>
> Hey, Larry! Dumb ass! This *is* the eCS newsgroup!
>
> Dan

It's a simple mistake. Like, when he thought he was applying for a FUD job,
and then found that he was working for HUD. Anybody can make a mistake like
that, and it's no disgrace.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Richard Steiner wrote:
> Here in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
> The OS/2 Guy spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Richard Steiner wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 21:11:26 +0300 in comp.os.os2.ecomstation,
>>>Henri Tapani Heinonen spake unto us, saying:
>>>
>>>>Do OS/2 Warp 3 and OS/2 Warp 4 -programs work on the eComStation?
>>>
>>>Yes, as do the various OS/2 1.x and 2.x programs I've tried.
>>
>>This is not true.
>
> Yes, it is. I haven't found a program yet that runs under Warp 4 and
> that will not run under eCS 1.1, and I've spent a lot of time looking.

No it isn't and you're lying to the potential eCS consumer. There
are hundreds of complaints about programs failing to work under
eCS reported in the eCS newsgroups while the writer reports
they run perfectly fine under a *real* OS/2 operating system.

Your reluctance to be honest is based upon the fact that you've
invested heavily in eCS and can't afford to see a potential
customer walk away based upon the problems of the ill-fated
problematic folly product.

> That includes utilities like 4DOS and 4OS2, FM/2, ClipIt, Hswitch, mc,
> ManyCLip, FileJet, FTE, and others as well as applications such as Ami
> Pro/2 3.0, Describe 5, StarOffice 5.1a, Embellish, and TrueSpectra
> Photo>Graphics. Even WinOS2 programs like AOLPress and Visio 4 worked
> just fine for me under eCS 1.1. I essentially ported my entire OS/2
> working environment to my eCS box.

Tell the truth. You are a seasoned well-educated OS/2 user
who speaks with an 'embellished' tongue. A new eCS consumer
would have a great deal of difficulty getting quite a few of the
programs you list to work - properly.

> I thought you couldn't even install eComStation, Tim.

It's not a matter of getting eComStation to install. It can be
done but it takes an enormous amount of hand-holding, pleading
and begging for assistance, tweaking, fudging and downright
frustration to make it work. Unless you kiss the ass of every
eCS salesmen and lie, much like you do often, the eCS
consumer is left in the cold, brushed off, and even banned
from any assistance.

> How, then, would
> you have any idea how well it actually runs OS/2 software? :-)

All you gotta do is read the eCS public forums and newsgroups.
The complaints are never-ending, long and rather pathetic.

But you know that.

--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

In article <42af916e_2@news3.prserv.net>,
The OS/2 Guy wrote:

> It's not a matter of getting eComStation to install. It can be
> done but it takes an enormous amount of hand-holding, pleading
> and begging for assistance, tweaking, fudging and downright
> frustration to make it work. Unless you kiss the ass of every
> eCS salesmen and lie, much like you do often, the eCS
> consumer is left in the cold, brushed off, and even banned
> from any assistance.

Give it up Larry. I got eCS to install the first time I tried - and I
haven't touched OS/2 in 11 years. I have it running in VPC 2004 under
Windows XP.

Why do you continue lying here? No one believes you. Just go away.

Dan

In article <42AFBE77.6030604@co.inet.fi>,
Tero Kaarlela wrote:

> I only said I havent had any probs with it. And how much I paid for
> it is irrelevant in this discussion I think.
>

The only thing irrelevant to this discussion is Larry Chauvet, "The OS/2
Guy Tim Martin".

Dan

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:30:15 UTC, The OS/2 Guy
wrote:

> No it isn't and you're lying to the potential eCS consumer. There
> are hundreds of complaints about programs failing to work under
> eCS reported in the eCS newsgroups while the writer reports
> they run perfectly fine under a *real* OS/2 operating system.

No there aren't. Don't be silly.

Potential eCS user - come on in. The water's lovely.

Ian

--

Ian Johnston wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:30:15 UTC, The OS/2 Guy
> wrote:
>
>>No it isn't and you're lying to the potential eCS consumer. There
>>are hundreds of complaints about programs failing to work under
>>eCS reported in the eCS newsgroups while the writer reports
>>they run perfectly fine under a *real* OS/2 operating system.
>
> No there aren't. Don't be silly.
>
> Potential eCS user - come on in. The water's lovely.

Too bad. Your plea is too late. He decided against the
problematic product. He's a smart man.

--
Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com