IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates... - OS2

This is a discussion on IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates... - OS2 ; In , on 06/03/2005 at 09:25 AM, Mike Ross said: >On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC), "Frank Wochatz" > wrote: >>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:58:59 UTC, Mike Ross wrote: >> >>> >>> >Bottom line: Anyone or any ...

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  1. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In <1117804930.90000edd2d3d775585f26fbfb88d3b2f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    at 09:25 AM, Mike Ross said:

    >On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC), "Frank Wochatz"
    > wrote:


    >>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:58:59 UTC, Mike Ross wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> >Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>> >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.
    >>>
    >>> Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)

    >>
    >>apples >< pears ;-)
    >>
    >>Linux is Open Source and you are able to download it for free.


    >Oh sure - I was just pointing out that Mr. Letoured was talking utter
    >nonsense in his blanket assertion regarding relying on freeware being a
    >recipe for corporate disaster!



    And linux is a corporation based where???

    Deal with reality you idiot; booby and ecs are now in a disaster mode.
    He has no programmers working for him. Its all donated freeware work
    that's making patches.








    >Mike
    >--
    >http://www.corestore.org
    >'As I walk along these shores
    >I am the history within'



  2. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In <1117804735.fe275a78b1ca8e455c0616f95e98b12f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    at 09:22 AM, Mike Ross said:

    >On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:14:20 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:


    >>In <1117796251.a61ab155195217eb08d96e86853cf9d0@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    >> at 06:58 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >>
    >>>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:28:14 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >>
    >>>

    >>
    >>>>Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>>>programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.

    >>
    >>>Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)

    >>
    >>Wrong. Its has not replaced or displaced M$.


    >I never said it did. I'm just saying it's doing reasonable well, it's not
    >'out of business'. If you want a specific example of an
    >open-source freeware program that IS kicking M$ fat ass... Apache. Half
    >the WWW relies on those 'freeware programmers' and the web doesn't show
    >much sign of going 'out of business' :-)


    And you are babbling about a freeware product in a discussion about a
    commercial product that has failed, because...?








    >>It also started as
    >>shareware/freeware. ecs was never free.


    >Irrelevant. I didn't mention eCS in my reply - I simply pointed out that
    >as a generalisation, "Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business" - which is
    >what you said - is, to be blunt, bull****. What have you got against
    >freeware, for goodness sake?


    >>Furthermore, linux software is
    >>not even selling enough to make it worth the development cost; example
    >>DB2.


    >Maybe so, maybe no - I didn't discuss applications, I simply said that
    >Linux was not 'out of business', thus contradicting your bald assertion
    >regarding freeware.


    >>Now stop the bull**** posts and take your ecs shilling and trolling
    >>somewhere else. I suggest the ecs newsgroup.


    >I'm discussing freeware generally, I never mentioned eCS. You did. I'm
    >not going anywhere, especially not on your rather rude advice.


    >Mike
    >--
    >http://www.corestore.org
    >'As I walk along these shores
    >I am the history within'



  3. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    dinkmeister wrote:
    > Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems like you guys
    > have a lot in common, like the need to argue constantly.


    You have various options to ignore anything I post. I'm posting to
    clarify what is available to eComStation users. Not to argue.

    Regards,
    Bob St.John
    Serenity Systems International

  4. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    ...right well I'm sure the ecs and os2 community is smart enough to
    pretty much toss everything TM says in the first place. To me it
    seems like all you're doing is adding more fuel to the fire.
    Sure I can ignore you, but you should atleast try to look the
    situation from another angle...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 09:21:20 -0500, Bob StJohn wrote:

    :dinkmeister wrote:
    :> Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems like you guys
    :> have a lot in common, like the need to argue constantly.
    :
    :You have various options to ignore anything I post. I'm posting to
    :clarify what is available to eComStation users. Not to argue.
    :
    :Regards,
    :Bob St.John
    :Serenity Systems International




  5. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:20:01 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >In <1117804735.fe275a78b1ca8e455c0616f95e98b12f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    > at 09:22 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >
    >>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:14:20 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >
    >>>In <1117796251.a61ab155195217eb08d96e86853cf9d0@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    >>> at 06:58 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >>>
    >>>>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:28:14 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>>>Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>>>>programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.
    >>>
    >>>>Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)
    >>>
    >>>Wrong. Its has not replaced or displaced M$.

    >
    >>I never said it did. I'm just saying it's doing reasonable well, it's not
    >>'out of business'. If you want a specific example of an
    >>open-source freeware program that IS kicking M$ fat ass... Apache. Half
    >>the WWW relies on those 'freeware programmers' and the web doesn't show
    >>much sign of going 'out of business' :-)

    >
    >And you are babbling about a freeware product in a discussion about a
    >commercial product that has failed, because...?


    Because you said:

    >Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.


    And my bull**** detector pegged :-)

    Mike
    --
    http://www.corestore.org
    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  6. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In <1117811822.cdd84bb9ea8332b598b36137715007db@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    at 11:20 AM, Mike Ross said:

    >On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:20:01 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:


    >>In <1117804735.fe275a78b1ca8e455c0616f95e98b12f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    >> at 09:22 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >>
    >>>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:14:20 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >>
    >>>>In <1117796251.a61ab155195217eb08d96e86853cf9d0@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    >>>> at 06:58 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:28:14 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>>>>>programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.
    >>>>
    >>>>>Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>>Wrong. Its has not replaced or displaced M$.

    >>
    >>>I never said it did. I'm just saying it's doing reasonable well, it's not
    >>>'out of business'. If you want a specific example of an
    >>>open-source freeware program that IS kicking M$ fat ass... Apache. Half
    >>>the WWW relies on those 'freeware programmers' and the web doesn't show
    >>>much sign of going 'out of business' :-)

    >>
    >>And you are babbling about a freeware product in a discussion about a
    >>commercial product that has failed, because...?


    >Because you said:


    >>Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.


    Linux isn't a company you idiot. SSI is. They are now relying on
    freeware programmers. Its means they and the product are dead.


    >And my bull**** detector pegged :-)


    It ought to peg everytme you open your own mouth.


    >Mike
    >--
    >http://www.corestore.org
    >'As I walk along these shores
    >I am the history within'



  7. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:20:00 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >In <1117804930.90000edd2d3d775585f26fbfb88d3b2f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    > at 09:25 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >
    >>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC), "Frank Wochatz"
    >> wrote:

    >
    >>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:58:59 UTC, Mike Ross wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> >Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>>> >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.
    >>>>
    >>>> Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)
    >>>
    >>>apples >< pears ;-)
    >>>
    >>>Linux is Open Source and you are able to download it for free.

    >
    >>Oh sure - I was just pointing out that Mr. Letoured was talking utter
    >>nonsense in his blanket assertion regarding relying on freeware being a
    >>recipe for corporate disaster!

    >
    >
    >And linux is a corporation based where???


    Linux isn't a corporation, silly. But many corporations rely on Linux
    and other freeware, produced by those 'freeware programmers', in
    mission-critical applications.

    >Its all donated freeware work
    >that's making patches.


    Commercial Linux distros consist almost entirely of 'donated
    freeware'. Apache is 'freeware'. What's wrong with that? What's your
    grip with freeware??!!

    Mike
    --
    http://www.corestore.org
    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  8. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In article <42a067e9$0$965$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net>
    Serenity@Augustmail.com "Bob StJohn" writes:

    > dinkmeister wrote:
    > > Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems
    > > like you guys have a lot in common, like the need to argue
    > > constantly.

    >
    > You have various options to ignore anything I post. I'm posting to
    > clarify what is available to eComStation users. Not to argue.


    Bob is correcting the slanderous/libelous (not sure which applies
    on the Net) assertions of the psychopathic personality stain that
    uses the name (amongst many) of "Tim Martin" -- who now, I notice
    from others' quotes, has awarded himself some kind of docorate.

    Bob's forebearance is remarkable in this. You or I would surely
    have dragged the fool into a law court years ago. I am sure Bob
    still could, if he chose to.

    I find Bob's effortless put-downs of fools and news of Serenity's
    OS/2::eCS-related activities interesting and informative, not to
    mention entertaining.
    --
    Andrew Stephenson


  9. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:30:25 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:



    >Linux isn't a company you idiot.


    I never said it was - but companies *use and rely on* Linux and other
    freeware. As I said in my other reply on this thread.

    >SSI is. They are now relying on
    >freeware programmers.


    And this is a bad thing because...?? What's wrong with freeware? I
    keep asking you why you don't like freeware and you don't respond. I
    can only conclude that you have no idea why you don't like freeware.

    >Its means they and the product are dead.


    seem very much alive to me. Booted eCS on this laptop earlier
    today. Any company can go bust however. The difference is, with
    open-source freeware you still have the sources, other people can
    carry on developing and maintaining the product. So freeware is a good
    thing, right?

    Mike
    --
    http://www.corestore.org
    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  10. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In <1117817106.bfc19ee02a161d4e75b44e05b078263c@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    at 12:48 PM, Mike Ross said:

    >On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:30:25 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:


    >


    >>Linux isn't a company you idiot.


    >I never said it was - but companies *use and rely on* Linux and other
    >freeware. As I said in my other reply on this thread.


    You are trying to compare apples and oranges. I really doubt you were an
    engineer. If you were, you would know better.






    >>SSI is. They are now relying on
    >>freeware programmers.


    >And this is a bad thing because...?? What's wrong with freeware? I keep
    >asking you why you don't like freeware and you don't respond. I can only
    >conclude that you have no idea why you don't like freeware.


    >>Its means they and the product are dead.


    > seem very much alive to me. Booted eCS on this laptop earlier
    >today. Any company can go bust however. The difference is, with
    >open-source freeware you still have the sources, other people can carry
    >on developing and maintaining the product. So freeware is a good thing,
    >right?


    >Mike
    >--
    >http://www.corestore.org
    >'As I walk along these shores
    >I am the history within'



  11. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...


    The issue isn't linux -->The issue is a commercial company that now has
    to rely on freeware programers to produce anything.

    That's the state of ecs. Now focus and take notes if you can't keep up.
    Or if you just want to play jerk -->take it to the ecs newsgroup.









    In <1117812134.1d2610bf398142136192cd0558d8402c@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    at 11:25 AM, Mike Ross said:

    >On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:20:00 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:


    >>In <1117804930.90000edd2d3d775585f26fbfb88d3b2f@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    >> at 09:25 AM, Mike Ross said:
    >>
    >>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC), "Frank Wochatz"
    >>> wrote:

    >>
    >>>>On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:58:59 UTC, Mike Ross wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> >Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >>>>> >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Linux seems to be doing just fine on that business model ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>>apples >< pears ;-)
    >>>>
    >>>>Linux is Open Source and you are able to download it for free.

    >>
    >>>Oh sure - I was just pointing out that Mr. Letoured was talking utter
    >>>nonsense in his blanket assertion regarding relying on freeware being a
    >>>recipe for corporate disaster!

    >>
    >>
    >>And linux is a corporation based where???


    >Linux isn't a corporation, silly. But many corporations rely on Linux and
    >other freeware, produced by those 'freeware programmers', in
    >mission-critical applications.


    >>Its all donated freeware work
    >>that's making patches.


    >Commercial Linux distros consist almost entirely of 'donated freeware'.
    >Apache is 'freeware'. What's wrong with that? What's your grip with
    >freeware??!!


    >Mike
    >--
    >http://www.corestore.org
    >'As I walk along these shores
    >I am the history within'



  12. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    Bob StJohn wrote:
    > The OS/2 Guy wrote:
    >
    >> Bob StJohn wrote:
    >>
    >>> The OS/2 Guy wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> *Real* OS/2 users can install them immediately, of
    >>>> course, once downloaded. That's the privilege and
    >>>> advantage of having a *real* OS/2 operating system.
    >>>
    >>> Gee .. thanks, but these were uploaded to the eComStation site days ago.

    >>
    >> Then you should list them as being available. You don't. Typical.

    >
    > Also typical, you didn't answer any of my questions.


    There's no reason to respond to any of your questions. You have
    little to no credibility here. You are lucky I take time to read the
    first line of any post with your email address attached to it - as
    anything beyond that first line is irrelevant and insipid. Most readers
    simply ignore you and your desperate rants.

    --
    Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
    Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
    email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

  13. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    dinkmeister wrote:
    > z! has had a lot of development lately, but I havn't decided to release it
    > just yet.


    I love z! It is my favorite music player. Anything you add to it is
    icing on the cake.

    --
    Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
    Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
    email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

  14. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    dinkmeister wrote:
    > Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems like you guys
    > have a lot in common, like the need to argue constantly.


    Good God no. The Boob can't afford to pay for eCS promotion.
    The best he can do is sit in the newsgroups and whine wussily.
    --
    Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
    Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
    email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

  15. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    Bob StJohn wrote:
    > dinkmeister wrote:
    >
    >> Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems like you guys
    >> have a lot in common, like the need to argue constantly.

    >
    > You have various options to ignore anything I post. I'm posting to
    > clarify what is available to eComStation users. Not to argue.


    Most readers ignore everything you post. Your post to
    try and spin a positive out of a negative eCS failure.

    It never works Boob - which is why most readers ignore
    everything you post.

    --
    Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
    Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
    email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

  16. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    dinkmeister wrote:
    > ..right well I'm sure the ecs and os2 community is smart enough to
    > pretty much toss everything TM says in the first place. To me it
    > seems like all you're doing is adding more fuel to the fire.
    > Sure I can ignore you, but you should atleast try to look the
    > situation from another angle...


    Dink, *you know* what he is doing. Publicizing his failed
    product in the OS/2 newsgroups because he can't afford
    to pay for real publicity.

    Dear God, the man should be thrilled to death that I even
    pay him lip service.

    --
    Dr. Timothy Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
    Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
    email: OS2Guy@Gmail.com OR eCSGuy@Gmail.com

  17. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:22:06 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >The issue isn't linux -->The issue is a commercial company that now has
    >to rely on freeware programers to produce anything.


    And despite your grumbling you still are utterly unable to explain why
    this is a bad thing! For about the fourth time of asking, what exactly
    is your problem with freeware?! Stop dodging the question. Put up or
    shut up about it.

    Mike
    --
    http://www.corestore.org
    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  18. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 23:22:05 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >In <1117817106.bfc19ee02a161d4e75b44e05b078263c@terane ws>, on 06/03/2005
    > at 12:48 PM, Mike Ross said:
    >
    >>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:30:25 GMT, letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    >
    >>

    >
    >>>Linux isn't a company you idiot.

    >
    >>I never said it was - but companies *use and rely on* Linux and other
    >>freeware. As I said in my other reply on this thread.

    >
    >You are trying to compare apples and oranges. I really doubt you were an
    >engineer. If you were, you would know better.


    I really doubt you know much about open-source software, otherwise you
    would know better than to try to maintain that:

    >Bottom line: Anyone or any company who has to rely on freeware
    >programmers to keep the product working, is out of business.


    That's the most stupid generalisation I've seen in a while. It's so
    demonstrably false it's laughable. If you want to defend it properly,
    feel free to make the attempt - 'apples and oranges' doesn't cut it.

    Mike
    --
    http://www.corestore.org
    'As I walk along these shores
    I am the history within'

  19. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In article , letoured@nospam.net wrote:

    > The issue isn't linux -->The issue is a commercial company that now has
    > to rely on freeware programers to produce anything.


    You mean like IBM and Linux?

    You really are stupid, aren't you?

    Dan

  20. Re: IBM Releases More OS/2 Updates...

    In article <42a0eb33_4@news3.prserv.net>,
    The OS/2 Guy wrote:

    > Bob StJohn wrote:
    > > dinkmeister wrote:
    > >
    > >> Can't you guys argue on the phone or something? It seems like you guys
    > >> have a lot in common, like the need to argue constantly.

    > >
    > > You have various options to ignore anything I post. I'm posting to
    > > clarify what is available to eComStation users. Not to argue.

    >
    > Most readers ignore everything you post. Your post to
    > try and spin a positive out of a negative eCS failure.
    >
    > It never works Boob - which is why most readers ignore
    > everything you post.


    No Larry, most people ignore *your* posts.

    Dan

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