eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005 - OS2

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  1. eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005


    Serenity Systems International recently completed a new agreement with
    IBM. The agreement allows Serenity Systems International to continue
    providing eComStation users with access to all IBM software updates,
    drivers, and fixes for the OS/2 product in a manner consistent with
    IBM's software strategy for OS/2, as reflected by IBM in the terms and
    conditions for OS/2 products available through IBM Passport Advantage.

    Existing eComStation users will continue to have access to all IBM
    updates and drivers currently available from the eComStation site.
    All eComStation users will continue to have access to IBM fixes for
    OS/2.

    In the future, IBM software updates to be made available through the
    eComStation web site will be restricted and made available only to
    users of the current version of eComStation (1.2 at this time) for a
    period of 12 months. eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will
    expire on 12/31/05. Users who have purchased in 1Q05 will expire on
    March 31, 2006. Users purchasing in 2Q05 will expire on June 30, 2006.

    eComStation pricing for upgrades to 1.2 from eComStation 1.0 or Warp4
    will be increased to satisfy the "reinstatementof support" required by
    IBM for continued access to IBM updates and drivers for OS/2.
    eComStation users who are currently on 1.1 or 1.0 may upgrade with the
    pricing listed below, or purchase a new product, PlusIBM, which also
    satisfies the "re-instatement" requirement. Or, the user can continue
    as before, accessing the current level of OS/2 code, and receiving
    fixes as these become available from IBM.

    The following pricing, in US dollars, goes into effect on March 31,
    2005:

    Product Price
    1.2 $259
    1.1-> 1.2 $69
    1.0-> 1.2 $129
    Warp4-> 1.2 $159
    Plus IBM** $99

    Renewals for PlusIBM will be available in 2006, if required. The
    estimated Suggested Retail Price for PlusIBM renewals would be $39,
    subject to change.


    Regards,

    Bob St.John
    Director, Business Development
    Serenity Systems International
    214-222-3414

    http://www.serenityvirtual.com
    http://www.ecomstation.com
    http://www.serenity-systems.com

  2. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Bob:

    On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:31:34 UTC, Bob StJohn wrote:
    > eComStation users who are currently on 1.1 or 1.0 may upgrade with the
    > pricing listed below, or purchase a new product, PlusIBM, which also
    > satisfies the "re-instatement" requirement.


    > Or, the user can continue
    > as before, accessing the current level of OS/2 code, and receiving
    > fixes as these become available from IBM.
    >
    >


    Would the recently released FP5 count as the "current level of os/2 code" ;
    what is an example of an update issued by IBM that does NOT qualify as "current
    level" ???

    thx as always...
    ....eric



  3. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    eric w wrote:
    > Bob:
    >
    > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:31:34 UTC, Bob StJohn wrote:
    >
    >>eComStation users who are currently on 1.1 or 1.0 may upgrade with the
    >>pricing listed below, or purchase a new product, PlusIBM, which also
    >>satisfies the "re-instatement" requirement.

    >
    >
    >>Or, the user can continue
    >>as before, accessing the current level of OS/2 code, and receiving
    >>fixes as these become available from IBM.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Would the recently released FP5 count as the "current level of os/2 code" ;
    > what is an example of an update issued by IBM that does NOT qualify as "current
    > level" ???


    Yes, since that is already available to all users. And IBM fixes which
    address "defects" will be made available. But some fixes are included in
    'updates', those may require being on 1.2 or PlusIBM.

    Regards,
    Bob St.John
    Serenity Systems International

  4. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Bob StJohn wrote:
    >>> Or, the user can continue
    >>> as before, accessing the current level of OS/2 code, and receiving
    >>> fixes as these become available from IBM.
    >>>

    >> Would the recently released FP5 count as the "current level of os/2
    >> code" ; what is an example of an update issued by IBM that does NOT
    >> qualify as "current
    >> level" ???

    >
    > Yes, since that is already available to all users. And IBM fixes which
    > address "defects" will be made available. But some fixes are included in
    > 'updates', those may require being on 1.2 or PlusIBM.


    Not to put too fine of a point on it, but is the current level of
    software going to be available to current users with non-qualifying
    updates after this changes is made, or is the repository of "old" fixes
    going to become inaccessible eventually? Basically wondering if we
    should be getting all of the updates now that we may want in the future
    for older eCS releases and entitlements.

    --
    [Reverse the parts of the e-mail address to reply.]

  5. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Marty wrote:

    > Not to put too fine of a point on it, but is the current level of
    > software going to be available to current users with non-qualifying
    > updates after this changes is made, or is the repository of "old" fixes
    > going to become inaccessible eventually? Basically wondering if we
    > should be getting all of the updates now that we may want in the future
    > for older eCS releases and entitlements.


    What is currently available, remains available. Does not become
    inaccesible at some later point.

    Regards,
    Bob St.John
    Serenity Systems International

  6. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Bob StJohn wrote:
    > Marty wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Not to put too fine of a point on it, but is the current level of
    >> software going to be available to current users with non-qualifying
    >> updates after this changes is made, or is the repository of "old"
    >> fixes going to become inaccessible eventually? Basically wondering if
    >> we should be getting all of the updates now that we may want in the
    >> future for older eCS releases and entitlements.

    >
    > What is currently available, remains available. Does not become
    > inaccesible at some later point.


    Thanks. Sounds much better than some other agreements I've heard about.
    ;-)

    --
    [Reverse the parts of the e-mail address to reply.]

  7. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Bob StJohn wrote in message news:<423bb982$0$23565$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net>...

    > Existing eComStation users will continue to have access to all IBM
    > updates and drivers currently available from the eComStation site.
    > All eComStation users will continue to have access to IBM fixes for
    > OS/2.
    >
    > ... eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will
    > expire on 12/31/05. Users who have purchased in 1Q05 will expire on
    > March 31, 2006. Users purchasing in 2Q05 will expire on June 30, 2006.


    That seems a bit contradictory to me. As someone who bought eCS 1.2 in
    2004, do I coninue to have access (first paragraph) or lose it
    (second)?

    Ian

  8. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Bob StJohn wrote in message news:<423bb982$0$23565$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net>...

    > Existing eComStation users will continue to have access to all IBM
    > updates and drivers currently available from the eComStation site.
    > All eComStation users will continue to have access to IBM fixes for
    > OS/2.
    >
    > ... eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will
    > expire on 12/31/05. Users who have purchased in 1Q05 will expire on
    > March 31, 2006. Users purchasing in 2Q05 will expire on June 30, 2006.


    That seems a bit contradictory to me. As someone who bought eCS 1.2 in
    2004, do I continue to have access (first paragraph) or lose it
    (second)?

    Ian

  9. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Ian Johnston wrote:
    > Bob StJohn wrote in message news:<423bb982$0$23565$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net>...
    >
    >
    >>Existing eComStation users will continue to have access to all IBM
    >>updates and drivers currently available from the eComStation site.
    >>All eComStation users will continue to have access to IBM fixes for
    >>OS/2.
    >>
    >>... eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will
    >>expire on 12/31/05. Users who have purchased in 1Q05 will expire on
    >>March 31, 2006. Users purchasing in 2Q05 will expire on June 30, 2006.

    >
    >
    > That seems a bit contradictory to me. As someone who bought eCS 1.2 in
    > 2004, do I coninue to have access (first paragraph) or lose it
    > (second)?




    > eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will expire on 12/31/05.


    You would lose access at the end of this year. That means, if IBM
    releases anything, other than fixes, in 2006, you would not have access
    unless you upgraded to a new version of eComStation, if a new version is
    available, or purchased a "PlusIBM renewal". Without any further
    purchase, you would still have access to IBM fixes and SSI released
    software.

    Access to the IBM software which becomes available requires a 12 month
    agreement, as is the case with the IBM agreements available through PA.

    Regards,
    Bob St.John
    Serenity Systems International


  10. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:32:43 UTC, Bob StJohn
    wrote:

    : Ian Johnston wrote:

    : > That seems a bit contradictory to me. As someone who bought eCS 1.2 in
    : > 2004, do I coninue to have access (first paragraph) or lose it
    : > (second)?

    : > eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will expire on 12/31/05.
    :
    : You would lose access at the end of this year. That means, if IBM
    : releases anything, other than fixes, in 2006, you would not have access
    : unless you upgraded to a new version of eComStation...

    But I would still have access, indefinitely, to anything released
    before the end of 2005?

    Ian

  11. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    Ian Johnston wrote:
    > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:32:43 UTC, Bob StJohn
    > wrote:
    >
    > : Ian Johnston wrote:
    >
    > : > That seems a bit contradictory to me. As someone who bought eCS 1.2 in
    > : > 2004, do I coninue to have access (first paragraph) or lose it
    > : > (second)?
    >
    > : > eComStation 1.2 users who purchased in 2004 will expire on 12/31/05.
    > :
    > : You would lose access at the end of this year. That means, if IBM
    > : releases anything, other than fixes, in 2006, you would not have access
    > : unless you upgraded to a new version of eComStation...
    >
    > But I would still have access, indefinitely, to anything released
    > before the end of 2005?


    You will have access, indefinitely, to what is currently available. You
    will also have access, indefinitely, to fixes from IBM. But drives and
    updates posted from this pointed on will be restricted to 1.2 users, as
    described.

    Regards
    Bob St.John
    Serenity Systems International

  12. Re: eComStation Price Changes, effective March 31, 2005

    On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:10:56 UTC, Bob StJohn
    wrote:

    : Ian Johnston wrote:

    : > But I would still have access, indefinitely, to anything released
    : > before the end of 2005?
    :
    : You will have access, indefinitely, to what is currently available. You
    : will also have access, indefinitely, to fixes from IBM. But drives and
    : updates posted from this pointed on will be restricted to 1.2 users, as
    : described.

    Ta. That's clear now, and also seems fair enough.

    Ian

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