Recommendations for GUI FTP client?

Peter Brown writes:
[color=blue]
> Exactly my findings - sadly it seemed to have been a bit of a well kept
> secret that the inbuilt ftpd "is useless with almost any ftp client that
> exists" until I asked in the os2-uk user group mailing list :-)[/color]

I'm mildly surprised, as I've not had much trouble with the OS/2 FTP
daemon. I've used it extensively with Solaris, Linux, and OS/2 clients
without trouble. The troublesome client is the Windows client, but
that client also has trouble with Linux and Solaris daemons. I've
experienced the Windows FTP client stopping partway through a transfer
and eventually die with a "netout: connection reset by peer" error
message. I've speculated that it can't handle gigabit network speeds
very well.

Mark Dodel wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:27:40 UTC, Marty <net@comcast.martyamodeo>
> wrote:
>
> -> Peter Brown wrote:
> -> > Just in case you missed the announcement ftpserver v1.30 is now available
> -> >
> -> > [url]http://www.pmoylan.org/pages/os2/FtpServer.html[/url]
> -> > [url]ftp://ftp.pmoylan.org/FtpServer/ftpser130.zip[/url]
> ->
> -> Where was the announcement?
>
> It was on the VOICE newslist 5 days ago for one. Peter is one of the
> few developers that is really good about sending announcements out to
> the announcement list. It is usually then picked up from there on the
> OS/2-eCS related news websites.[/color]

Since the newsgroups are usually pretty active I assume most news hits
here too, but this one slipped. Guess I'll go back to checking a few
key web sites to stay informed. Thanks Mark.

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[email]tholen@antispam.ham[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Peter Brown writes:
>[color=green]
>>Exactly my findings - sadly it seemed to have been a bit of a well kept
>>secret that the inbuilt ftpd "is useless with almost any ftp client that
>>exists" until I asked in the os2-uk user group mailing list :-)[/color]
>
> I'm mildly surprised, as I've not had much trouble with the OS/2 FTP
> daemon. I've used it extensively with Solaris, Linux, and OS/2 clients
> without trouble. The troublesome client is the Windows client, but
> that client also has trouble with Linux and Solaris daemons. I've
> experienced the Windows FTP client stopping partway through a transfer
> and eventually die with a "netout: connection reset by peer" error
> message. I've speculated that it can't handle gigabit network speeds
> very well.[/color]

I think any simple text-based FTP clients will handle it just fine, with
the exception you noted about the Windows one (which I've also
experienced on fast local connections). The text-based ones that don't
try to interpret the directory information, leaving that up to the user,
are the ones that will work (NCFTP and the like are not in this
category). The GUI clients have the real problems.

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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:55:37 UTC, [email]rcpj@panix.com[/email] (Pierre Jelenc) wrote:
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> > JFTP is pretty decent.
> > [url]http://www.jmethods.com/products/jftp/[/url][/color]
>
> Which Java do you use? I'm getting an error:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:[/color]

I use version 3.0 of JFTP with Innotek Java 1.4.2.

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Hi Marty

Marty wrote:[color=blue]
> Peter Brown wrote:[color=green]
>> Just in case you missed the announcement ftpserver v1.30 is now available
>>
>> [url]http://www.pmoylan.org/pages/os2/FtpServer.html[/url]
>> [url]ftp://ftp.pmoylan.org/FtpServer/ftpser130.zip[/url][/color]
>
> Where was the announcement?
>[/color]


Ummm...

1 of several places that I check a couple of times a week I guess;
probably os2voice or os2world as they both post about software
releases/updates.

Regards

Pete


[color=blue]
> Cool... Peter made a good security change that has been bugging me for a
> long time:
>
> Added check for repeated probes that look like
> a dictionary attack. This version does not
> update the filter in the INI file.
>
> I've been manually watching for these clowns and banning IP ranges. Now
> I don't have to. :-) Thanks Peter! (and you too Peter, for bringing
> this to my attention!)
>[/color]

Hi Pierre

Pierre Jelenc wrote:[color=blue]
> Alex Taylor <mail.me@reply.to.address> writes:[color=green]
>> JFTP is pretty decent.
>> [url]http://www.jmethods.com/products/jftp/[/url][/color]
>
> Which Java do you use? I'm getting an error:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
> net/sf/jftp/JFtp (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:539)
> at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:251)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:55)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:194)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:187)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:289)
> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:274)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:235)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:302)
>
> Pierre[/color]


java142_09 SDK is installed here; no other java on the system.

Regards

Pete

Peter Brown <losepeteSPAM-ME-NOT@ntlworld.com> writes:[color=blue]
>
> java142_09 SDK is installed here; no other java on the system.[/color]

Same here. Strange!

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In article <qfmdnaBMluLHlHfbnZ2dnUVZ_vyinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Marty <net@comcast.martyamodeo> wrote:[color=blue]
>I think any simple text-based FTP clients will handle it just fine, with
>the exception you noted about the Windows one (which I've also
>experienced on fast local connections). The text-based ones that don't
>try to interpret the directory information, leaving that up to the user,
>are the ones that will work (NCFTP and the like are not in this
>category). The GUI clients have the real problems.[/color]

The old shareware version of WS_FTP ([url]www.wsftp.com[/url]) that I used extensively
back in the 2000 to 2003 timeframe worked fine with the OS/2 FTP daemon when
accessing from a Windows box.

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Don Hills writes:
[color=blue]
> Marty wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I think any simple text-based FTP clients will handle it just fine, with
>> the exception you noted about the Windows one (which I've also
>> experienced on fast local connections). The text-based ones that don't
>> try to interpret the directory information, leaving that up to the user,
>> are the ones that will work (NCFTP and the like are not in this
>> category). The GUI clients have the real problems.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> The old shareware version of WS_FTP ([url]www.wsftp.com[/url]) that I used extensively
> back in the 2000 to 2003 timeframe worked fine with the OS/2 FTP daemon when
> accessing from a Windows box.[/color]

Unfortunately, that web site doesn't seem to offer a shareware version
anymore. They sell the home version without support for $39.95, and
support costs $30 more.

I also tried NCFTP. Didn't seem to work with the OS/2 FTP daemon. It would
connect, but it wouldn't transfer any files.

FTP Commander is GUI based, and it wouldn't show the filenames from the OS/2
end, but it worked, and seems to be fast and reliable. Not a single failure
during a session in which I transferred about 10 GB worth of data in a half
dozen directories. Compare that with the Microsoft FTP client, which
couldn't even complete a single directory transfer without dying from a
"Netout: connection reset by peer" failure. I guess Microsoft is so busy
fixing security holes in Windows that they don't have time to fix their FTP
client, which doesn't even support the specification of the port number like
other clients do.

I have only a rudimentary knowledge of passive mode. Does the OS/2 FTP
daemon support passive mode?

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:09:46 UTC, Marty <net@comcast.martyamodeo>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> I think any simple text-based FTP clients will handle it just fine, with
> the exception you noted about the Windows one (which I've also
> experienced on fast local connections). The text-based ones that don't
> try to interpret the directory information, leaving that up to the user,
> are the ones that will work (NCFTP and the like are not in this
> category). The GUI clients have the real problems.[/color]

I've been distracted by travel and other work during this discussion,
so forgive me if my questions have already been answered.

Did anyone find a good GUI client?

Just yesterday I had the ..um.. opportunity of setting up a web site
on a new host server. The hosting service has a file commander type
application in its control panel where you can tediously
upload/download files. It works well for single files, but failed
(for me) to handle directories containing sub-directories very well.

Since I've owned EmTec Network Suite for ages, I dusted off EmTec FTP
5.0.7 to transfer whole directories containing zillions of files to
the UNIX server. It worked great, just sent data lickity split,
completed the task, and then *BONG* totally locked up my system. I'd
have to reboot in order to do anything after that.

I know this is ancient software, but if it weren't for that one little
lockup issue, I'd totally be satisfied with the way EmTec FTP client
works. Does it work that way for everyone or am I special?


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On 23.09.07 14:57, Barbara wrote:
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> Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color]

Have you looked at Netdrive?

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:54:56 UTC, Andreas Schnellbacher
<aschn@despammed.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 23.09.07 14:57, Barbara wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color]
>
> Have you looked at Netdrive?[/color]

Not until now. I'd forgotten about that program, which is pretty
sophisticated, and probably more than I need. There's a pretty good
description of it on:

[url]http://www.os2ezine.com/20010916/page_3.html[/url]

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:57:22 UTC, "Barbara" <bcallen@nospam.attglobal.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color]

Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
add-on for Firefox. I haven't given it a really hard workout but
so far I'm pleased. It has everything you'd expect of an FTP
client: side-by-side local & remote directory listings, one-click
login for sites, easy transfer of multiple files & folders, etc, etc.


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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:07:24 UTC, "Rich Walsh"
<spamyourself@127.0.0.1> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:57:22 UTC, "Barbara" <bcallen@nospam.attglobal.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color]
>
> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
> add-on for Firefox. I haven't given it a really hard workout but
> so far I'm pleased. It has everything you'd expect of an FTP
> client: side-by-side local & remote directory listings, one-click
> login for sites, easy transfer of multiple files & folders, etc, etc.[/color]

Perfect!

I just used it to download the whole web site I uploaded yesterday.
Not huge, but it has many small .jpg and .html files. Worked great to
get the updated version back on my computer for tinkering.

I usually use Seamonkey, but will keep FireFox around just for this.

Thanks

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Barbara wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
>> add-on for Firefox.[/color]
>
> I usually use Seamonkey, but will keep FireFox around just for this.[/color]

I haven't tried it myself, but you apparently don't need Firefox:
[url]http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp[/url]

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:02:00 UTC, Steve Wendt <spamsux@forgetit.org>
wrote:
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> Barbara wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
> >> add-on for Firefox.[/color]
> >
> > I usually use Seamonkey, but will keep FireFox around just for this.[/color]
>
> I haven't tried it myself, but you apparently don't need Firefox:
> [url]http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp[/url][/color]

Dang! You're just full of good stuff, aren't you?

I just installed it, and it looks just like the FireFox one, (duh). I
usually stay away from extraneous plugins, extensions and other
addons, but this one is just what I need.

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Rich Walsh writes:
[color=blue]
> Barbara wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
> add-on for Firefox. I haven't given it a really hard workout but
> so far I'm pleased. It has everything you'd expect of an FTP
> client: side-by-side local & remote directory listings, one-click
> login for sites, easy transfer of multiple files & folders, etc, etc.[/color]

I couldn't find a way to get a remote OS/2 system to change drive
letters using FireFTP on a Windows client. Entering the desired
directory as, for example, "J:\" caused FireFTP to attempt to change
directories to /J:, which of course fails. Looks like it's expecting
some sort of UNIX file system on the remote side.

I have a problem with the combination of NetDrive and File Commander/2 when
unpacking files from a zip-archive to a network drive, specifically a webhost
account. For some reasons the files transferred are all exactly twice as
large as their true size. If I first unpack them on my desktop computer and
/then/ transfer them using the same combination of NetDrive and FC/2, they
are transferred correctly.

This is using NetDrive 3.0.2.20. Has anyone noted the same problem?

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:54:56 +0200, Andreas Schnellbacher wrote:

:>On 23.09.07 14:57, Barbara wrote:
:>
:>> Did anyone find a good GUI client?
:>
:>Have you looked at Netdrive?
:>
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[email]tholen@antispam.ham[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Rich Walsh writes:
>[color=green]
>> Barbara wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Did anyone find a good GUI client?[/color][/color]
>[color=green]
>> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
>> add-on for Firefox. I haven't given it a really hard workout but
>> so far I'm pleased. It has everything you'd expect of an FTP
>> client: side-by-side local & remote directory listings, one-click
>> login for sites, easy transfer of multiple files & folders, etc, etc.[/color]
>
> I couldn't find a way to get a remote OS/2 system to change drive
> letters using FireFTP on a Windows client. Entering the desired
> directory as, for example, "J:\" caused FireFTP to attempt to change
> directories to /J:, which of course fails. Looks like it's expecting
> some sort of UNIX file system on the remote side.
>[/color]


Is the OS/2 system running the OS/2 supplied ftpd.exe?

If "Yes" then that is probably the problem.

I had directory listing problems when using anything but the FTPPM gui
to access an OS/2 system running the "standard" ftpd.exe

I suggest you use ftpserver instead as that works well with most clients
- you'll probably find that you need to setup symbolic links to your drives
[url]http://www.pmoylan.org/pages/os2/FtpServer.html[/url]

Regards

Pete

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:02:00 UTC, Steve Wendt <spamsux@forgetit.org>
wrote:
[color=blue]
> Barbara wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Per an earlier suggestion in this thread, I installed the FireFTP
> >> add-on for Firefox.[/color]
> >
> > I usually use Seamonkey, but will keep FireFox around just for this.[/color]
>
> I haven't tried it myself, but you apparently don't need Firefox:
> [url]http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp[/url][/color]

I have to insert an "OOPS" here. When I tried the FireFTP for
Seamonkey, it initially looked ok, but I couldn't get it to let me set
up transfer necessities. Trying to open "Manage Account" does
nothing. Won't open to let me put in the remote host, IDs and
passwords.

The version I installed on FireFox works perfectly. Go figure...

I probably have to do something to Seamonkey that I haven't found yet.
I think it said something about needing a side bar (or similar) which
I ignored in my excitement. A while back I tried everything I could
think to get rid of the side bar when I installed Seamonkey. I just
don't use it. I'll have to go back and check.

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