>
> Pete, I did that years ago for the T42. pci.exe reports "Vendor 8086h
> Intel corporation, device 4220h PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network
> Connection". Latest Genmac drivers for that card are
> installed/configured.
>
> Like I said, it's working, just too weak to be of any practical use.
>
>

On a guess, maybe the antenna has been disconnected. The antenna is
'built-in' around the screen while the wi-fi is on the mini-PCI card.
There's a wire to connect the antenna to the mini-pci card that has
perhaps become unplugged. Get out the screwriver and look at the
mini-pci card to check. Otherwise, maybe the antenna itself has become
damaged from a drop or water or something. All of this assumes that it
also has limited range with Windows XP as well as OS/2. If it's only
OS/2, then it's probably a driver/software problem.



--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a

On Sat, 24 May 2008 19:28:53 UTC, "Mark Dodel"
wrote:

>
> That's a shame that it has never worked right. Is it still under
> warranty? Another option would be a wireless gaming adapter. These
> are OS agnostic and only require a driver for the builtin ethernet
> port, which on the T42 is an Intel Pro 1000. I've used the Asus 330
> with my older laptop and that worked fine.
>
> Mark

The T42 was purchased new in February 2004, so It hadn't even occurred
to me to consider it under warranty.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "gaming adapter". The T42 works
great as a wireless receiver using the ethernet card connected to a
PepWave wireless modem. That modem/router in turn accesses the city
wireless network, so there's no problem with connectivity here at home
using any OS. I don't need to use cable or DSL for high-speed
broadband. TCP/IP configured for DHCP automatic does it all.

It's just the ThinkPad internal Intel WiFi adapter that's a problem
trying to connect to anything while away from home.

I really wanted to find out if the Intel 2200BG was malfunctioning in
the T42, and the feedback I've received here does confirm that it's
not acting normal. I've managed to work around that for 4 years now,
so it isn't a show-stopper problem.

I actually was inspired to buy the T43 a few weeks ago to use as a
possible backup for my IBM IntelliStation that blew it's power supply.
That power supply has been replaced and the IntelliStation seems like
it's good as new right now, so there's no emergency. The
IntelliStation is a 1998 model and could rival Hobbes in the amount of
OS/2 programs and history that's on it.

I'll likely change my priorities and eventually use the T42 as a
backup and configure the T43 as my travel computer with it's working
wireless. I have many choices.

Thanks for your help!

--
Barbara

On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:28:09 UTC, "Barbara"
wrote:

-> On Sat, 24 May 2008 19:28:53 UTC, "Mark Dodel"
-> wrote:
->
-> >
-> > That's a shame that it has never worked right. Is it still under
-> > warranty? Another option would be a wireless gaming adapter. These
-> > are OS agnostic and only require a driver for the builtin ethernet
-> > port, which on the T42 is an Intel Pro 1000. I've used the Asus 330
-> > with my older laptop and that worked fine.
-> >
-> > Mark
->
-> The T42 was purchased new in February 2004, so It hadn't even occurred
-> to me to consider it under warranty.

Just asked as my T42p has a 4 year extended warranty and it just died
last week and I need to get it in for repair.

->
-> I'm not quite sure what you mean by "gaming adapter". The T42 works
-> great as a wireless receiver using the ethernet card connected to a
-> PepWave wireless modem. That modem/router in turn accesses the city
Might be the same thing. Daniela Engert wrote an article on the Asus
in VOICE a few years back -
http://www.os2voice.org/VNL/past_iss...5H/vnewsf4.htm

Where are you located that they have city wide WiFi? Philly?

Mark





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Warpstock 2008 - Santa Cruz, California: http://www.warpstock.org
Warpstock Europe 2008 - Düsseldorf, Germany: http://www.warpstock.eu

On Sun, 25 May 2008 00:52:30 UTC, "Mark Dodel"
wrote:

> Where are you located that they have city wide WiFi? Philly?

I'm in a smallish sized town (85,000) about 40 miles north of Denver
called Longmont, Colorado. Getting the city wireless network up has
been an ongoing project for the past two years. One company, Kite
Networks, started it and working with the city installed all the
access points, then 6 months later sold out to a company called
Gobility. Gobility let it fall apart, couldn't afford the support and
service obligations. Just recently a third company, DHB Networks
picked it up, and they are trying very hard to complete the original
plan. I'm mildly optimistic.

It's been a very difficult project, and wouldn't you know I've been
signed on since the beginning and got to experience all the ups and
downs. It's not a free network, but there are various levels of
connectivity. People can sign on and pay by the hour, the day, or
establish what they call full time "residential" service. The
residential service is $24.99 month, and is an incredible bargain when
everything works. It's on 24/7 at home, and I can also log in
anywhere in town with a mobile (laptop) unit. Possibilities and
usages are endless.

For the past month, it's been rock solid since DHB updated a lot of
the software and hardware related to the service. It's apparently a
whole bunch harder to do than I ever imagined.


--
Barbara

Barbara wrote:

> For the past month, it's been rock solid since DHB updated a lot of
> the software and hardware related to the service. Â*It's apparently a
> whole bunch harder to do than I ever imagined.

Barbara, do you have a web site for that service? Colorado Springs has been
working in jerks and squirts to set something up in the downtown area -
basically the CC campus and surrounding area but it really never got off
the ground - piggybacking on some municipal services.

Be interesting to see if someone ever really gets this to be a paying
proposition. Given the power limits on the APs and the clients it's hard
to see how this will ever work out - too much hardware - but it's an
interesting concept. Of course, some folks will try and blame this week's
weather on the wifi...

--
Will Honea
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

On Sun, 25 May 2008 07:57:32 UTC, Will Honea wrote:

> Barbara wrote:
>
> > For the past month, it's been rock solid since DHB updated a lot of
> > the software and hardware related to the service. ÿIt's apparently a
> > whole bunch harder to do than I ever imagined.
>
> Barbara, do you have a web site for that service? Colorado Springs has been
> working in jerks and squirts to set something up in the downtown area -
> basically the CC campus and surrounding area but it really never got off
> the ground - piggybacking on some municipal services.
>
> Be interesting to see if someone ever really gets this to be a paying
> proposition. Given the power limits on the APs and the clients it's hard
> to see how this will ever work out - too much hardware - but it's an
> interesting concept. Of course, some folks will try and blame this week's
> weather on the wifi...

I don't think I'll tell you until they get ours working.

Try these:

http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/wireless/ <===== city reports

http://www.dhbnetworks.com/ <===== the network

http://longmont.airwirz.com <===== customer/user page

Incidentally, I've never been able to get that dhbnetworks.com site to
work properly with the version of Seamonkey I'm using. Something
fancy going on there.

And yes, I'm sure Longmont's WiFi had something to do with those
tornados a couple days ago.


--
Barbara

On Sun, 25 May 2008 13:21:25 UTC, "Barbara"
wrote:

> On Sun, 25 May 2008 07:57:32 UTC, Will Honea wrote:
>
> > Barbara wrote:
> >
> > > For the past month, it's been rock solid since DHB updated a lot of
> > > the software and hardware related to the service. Â*It's apparently a
> > > whole bunch harder to do than I ever imagined.
> >
> > Barbara, do you have a web site for that service? Colorado Springs has been
> > working in jerks and squirts to set something up in the downtown area -
> > basically the CC campus and surrounding area but it really never got off
> > the ground - piggybacking on some municipal services.
> >
> > Be interesting to see if someone ever really gets this to be a paying
> > proposition. Given the power limits on the APs and the clients it's hard
> > to see how this will ever work out - too much hardware - but it's an
> > interesting concept. Of course, some folks will try and blame this week's
> > weather on the wifi...
>
> I don't think I'll tell you until they get ours working.
>
> Try these:
>
> http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/wireless/ <===== city reports
>
> http://www.dhbnetworks.com/ <===== the network
>
> http://longmont.airwirz.com <===== customer/user page
>
> Incidentally, I've never been able to get that dhbnetworks.com site to
> work properly with the version of Seamonkey I'm using. Something
> fancy going on there.

I get the "update to version 8 of Flash" message.

CC. Hmmm. When I went to college there in the early 1960s, they figured
that if the Russians nuked the place (NORAD was on the east side of town
then and Ft Carson was still Camp Carson), all that would be left
standing would be Cheyenne Mt. and Palmer Hall, which has 3-4 ft thick
red sandstone walls.

Pete

--

On Fri, 23 May 2008 20:49:43 UTC, "Barbara"
wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2008 18:27:16 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 May 2008 15:10:36 UTC in comp.os.os2.misc, "Barbara"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The T42 is my travel computer, runs eCS 1.2R, and I have Genmac 2.2
> > > plus WLan 3.10 installed on it working (finally), but it can't pick up
> > > a signal through the Intel 2200BG here at home. It detects it,
> > > identifies it, says it's "too weak".
> >
> > Maybe you have a hardware problem!
> >
> > On all the Thinkpads I've looked at, they have a plug in card with the wireless
> > on it and then a cable (or two) goes to that and is routed up round the outside
> > of the screen bezel. Maybe the cable has been disconnected or is suffering from
> > a partial connection. Might be worth you finding the hardware service manual for
> > your model and reading up on what it takes to dismantle it and re-assemble it -
> > it might be dead easy to get at the connection to the wireless card itself but
> > more tricky to track it down as it goes up round the screen.
> >
>
> HI Trevor,
>
> I have the hardware service manual, all 277 pages for the T42 printed
> out. And I've thought exactly along the lines you suggest. But my
> thinking was that it wouldn't work at all if a connection were loose.
> It does work.
>
> Sometime I may get around to removing the keyboard, the palm rest and
> keyboard bezel as instructed in the manual in order to get to the
> wireless card. I'm fearless when it comes to disassembly and
> reassembly so long as I have the manual for instruction. I don't plan
> on taking the screen apart.

--snip--

I felt the same way when I first took apart my 600E. One problem area
with is the ribbon connector to the lid and how the top "bezel" (I think
that's what it's called) tends to pinch it rather severely when you
reinstall the bezel. While my T42 doesn't appear to have this "problem"
(I haven't taken it apart yet) don't force anything back together. Also
don't count on reapplying all the adhesive-backed black dots over the
machine screws (my T42 doesn't have them, but replacements are available
on ebay). All the black screws ones are meant to be in locations visible
from the outside. If you have a gray ones when you go to screw on the
bottom cover, you've inadvertanly put black ones in their place
somewhere inside, like fastining the modem, pcmcia slots, etc. If you
have some "extra" screws left over, be worried.

I also just ran across this link while sorting through my bookmarks:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/
OS/2 and eCS are probably unheard of, but it might resolve your XP wifi
problems, which could possibly go a long way towards fixing the OS/2
ones.

HTH,
Pete

--

On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:41:17 UTC, "Pete"
wrote:

-> I also just ran across this link while sorting through my bookmarks:
-> http://forum.thinkpads.com/
-> OS/2 and eCS are probably unheard of, but it might resolve your XP wifi
-> problems, which could possibly go a long way towards fixing the OS/2
-> ones.
->

Actually the Thinkpads Forum has an OS/2 forum
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewforum.php?f=10 :-)

Mark


--
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Warpstock 2008 - Santa Cruz, California: http://www.warpstock.org
Warpstock Europe 2008 - Düsseldorf, Germany: http://www.warpstock.eu

On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:41:17 UTC, "Pete"
wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2008 20:49:43 UTC, "Barbara"
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 May 2008 18:27:16 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 23 May 2008 15:10:36 UTC in comp.os.os2.misc, "Barbara"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The T42 is my travel computer, runs eCS 1.2R, and I have Genmac 2.2
> > > > plus WLan 3.10 installed on it working (finally), but it can't pick up
> > > > a signal through the Intel 2200BG here at home. It detects it,
> > > > identifies it, says it's "too weak".
> > >
> > > Maybe you have a hardware problem!
> > >
> > > On all the Thinkpads I've looked at, they have a plug in card with the wireless
> > > on it and then a cable (or two) goes to that and is routed up round the outside
> > > of the screen bezel. Maybe the cable has been disconnected or is suffering from
> > > a partial connection. Might be worth you finding the hardware service manual for
> > > your model and reading up on what it takes to dismantle it and re-assemble it -
> > > it might be dead easy to get at the connection to the wireless card itself but
> > > more tricky to track it down as it goes up round the screen.
> > >
> >
> > HI Trevor,
> >
> > I have the hardware service manual, all 277 pages for the T42 printed
> > out. And I've thought exactly along the lines you suggest. But my
> > thinking was that it wouldn't work at all if a connection were loose.
> > It does work.
> >
> > Sometime I may get around to removing the keyboard, the palm rest and
> > keyboard bezel as instructed in the manual in order to get to the
> > wireless card. I'm fearless when it comes to disassembly and
> > reassembly so long as I have the manual for instruction. I don't plan
> > on taking the screen apart.
>
> --snip--
>
> I felt the same way when I first took apart my 600E. One problem area
> with is the ribbon connector to the lid and how the top "bezel" (I think
> that's what it's called) tends to pinch it rather severely when you
> reinstall the bezel. While my T42 doesn't appear to have this "problem"
> (I haven't taken it apart yet) don't force anything back together. Also
> don't count on reapplying all the adhesive-backed black dots over the
> machine screws (my T42 doesn't have them, but replacements are available
> on ebay). All the black screws ones are meant to be in locations visible
> from the outside. If you have a gray ones when you go to screw on the
> bottom cover, you've inadvertanly put black ones in their place
> somewhere inside, like fastining the modem, pcmcia slots, etc. If you
> have some "extra" screws left over, be worried.

I managed to save my "black dots". They were real sticky and went
back on securely. And I was really impressed with the screw
identification chart on the back of the T42, along with tiny icons and
numbers beside each screw that indicate what they were holding down.
I never even noticed those before. Unless you're fairly careless,
it's pretty hard to get it wrong. And I didn't remove anything but
the hard drive and battery to access the mini-pci card once the
keyboard and palm rest were removed.

> I also just ran across this link while sorting through my bookmarks:
> http://forum.thinkpads.com/
> OS/2 and eCS are probably unheard of, but it might resolve your XP wifi
> problems, which could possibly go a long way towards fixing the OS/2
> ones.

That's a good reference, and there IS an OS/2 topic under operating
systems.

I've pretty much resigned myself to just using the Hawking USB
wireless adapter with XP when traveling with the T42. It has USB
powered 6dB gain which works really well. If the Intel 2200BG sniffs
out one SSID, the Hawking will find a dozen. It's another "thing" to
carry around, but doesn't take up too much space. And since I travel
in a small RV, I can move the USB adapter around (usually next to a
window) to catch the strongest signal. Aside from having to boot XP,
it's not too bad. Once booted, I use a Seamonkey browser, PMMail for
Windows and the Agent newsreader, so it's almost like XP is just
allowing me to do what I'd do if using OS/2 - eCS.

Thanks for your suggestions.

--
Barbara