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  1. Re: a question about fatherhood

    Art Deco wrote:
    > ah wrote:
    >>Art Deco wrote:
    >>> ah wrote:
    >>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in

    >>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in

    >>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or daughter
    >>>>is
    >>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to be
    >>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who had
    >>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his mother

    >>slept
    >>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we were
    >>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking in all
    >>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of revelation,
    >>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I never
    >>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman

    >>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment in

    >>this
    >>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate connection with
    >>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to bridge
    >>>>the
    >>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that you'd

    >>care
    >>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something

    >>leaden
    >>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and

    >>therefore
    >>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this question

    >>to
    >>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair tires
    >>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting

    >>replies
    >>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH! ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*
    --
    ah

  2. Re: a question about fatherhood

    ah wrote:
    >Art Deco wrote:
    >> ah wrote:
    >>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.

    >c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah
    >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in

    >message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in

    >message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or

    >daughter
    >>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to be
    >>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who had
    >>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his mother
    >>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we

    >were
    >>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking in

    >all
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of revelation,
    >>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I never
    >>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman
    >>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment in
    >>>this
    >>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate connection

    >with
    >>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to

    >bridge
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that you'd
    >>>care
    >>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something
    >>>leaden
    >>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and
    >>>therefore
    >>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this question
    >>>to
    >>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair tires
    >>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting
    >>>replies
    >>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH! ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*

    --
    "Classic erroneous presupposition."
    -- David Tholen

  3. Re: a question about fatherhood

    Art Deco wrote:
    > ah wrote:
    >>Art Deco wrote:
    >>> ah wrote:
    >>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegroups.

    >>c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah
    >>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in

    >>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in

    >>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or

    >>daughter
    >>>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to be
    >>>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who had
    >>>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his mother
    >>>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we

    >>were
    >>>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking in

    >>all
    >>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of revelation,
    >>>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I never
    >>>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman
    >>>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment in
    >>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate connection

    >>with
    >>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to

    >>bridge
    >>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that you'd
    >>>>care
    >>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something
    >>>>leaden
    >>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and
    >>>>therefore
    >>>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this question
    >>>>to
    >>>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair tires
    >>>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting
    >>>>replies
    >>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH! ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*
    --
    ah

  4. Re: a question about fatherhood

    ah wrote:
    >Art Deco wrote:
    >> ah wrote:
    >>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegrou

    >ps.
    >>>c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah

    >
    >>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in
    >>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or
    >>>daughter
    >>>>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to be
    >>>>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who

    >had
    >>>>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his mother
    >>>>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we
    >>>were
    >>>>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking in
    >>>all
    >>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of

    >revelation,
    >>>>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I

    >never
    >>>>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman
    >>>>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment

    >in
    >>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate connection
    >>>with
    >>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to
    >>>bridge
    >>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that you'd
    >>>>>care
    >>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something
    >>>>>leaden
    >>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and
    >>>>>therefore
    >>>>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this

    >question
    >>>>>to
    >>>>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair

    >tires
    >>>>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting
    >>>>>replies
    >>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH! ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>

    >*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*

    --
    Art Deco, worshipped by net.ko0ks all around Usenet.

  5. Re: a question about fatherhood

    Art Deco wrote:
    > ah wrote:
    >>Art Deco wrote:
    >>> ah wrote:
    >>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegrou

    >>ps.
    >>>>c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah

    >>
    >>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in
    >>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or
    >>>>daughter
    >>>>>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to be
    >>>>>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who

    >>had
    >>>>>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his mother
    >>>>>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we
    >>>>were
    >>>>>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking in
    >>>>all
    >>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of

    >>revelation,
    >>>>>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I

    >>never
    >>>>>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman
    >>>>>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment

    >>in
    >>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate connection
    >>>>with
    >>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to
    >>>>bridge
    >>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that you'd
    >>>>>>care
    >>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something
    >>>>>>leaden
    >>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and
    >>>>>>therefore
    >>>>>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this

    >>question
    >>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair

    >>tires
    >>>>>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting
    >>>>>>replies
    >>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH! ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    >>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*
    --
    ah

  6. Re: a question about fatherhood


    "ah" wrote in message
    news:484870e0$0$215$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octan ews.com...
    > Art Deco wrote:
    >> ah wrote:
    >>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegrou
    >>>ps.
    >>>>>c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>in
    >>>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>wrote in
    >>>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>or
    >>>>>daughter
    >>>>>>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>to be
    >>>>>>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>who
    >>>had
    >>>>>>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>mother
    >>>>>>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>Kathmandu, we
    >>>>>were
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>taking in
    >>>>>all
    >>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of
    >>>revelation,
    >>>>>>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I
    >>>never
    >>>>>>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman
    >>>>>>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>moment
    >>>in
    >>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>connection
    >>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>to
    >>>>>bridge
    >>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>similar
    >>>>>>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>you'd
    >>>>>>>care
    >>>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>an
    >>>>>>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>something
    >>>>>>>leaden
    >>>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>and
    >>>>>>>therefore
    >>>>>>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>no
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this
    >>>question
    >>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wheelchair
    >>>tires
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> re-quoting
    >>>>>>>replies
    >>>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> ?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*
    > --
    > ah


    Art Deco is C. R. Osterwald:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...3?dmode=source



  7. Re: a question about fatherhood

    ah wrote:
    >Art Deco wrote:
    >> ah wrote:
    >>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Art Deco wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chatnoir wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 6:41 pm, ah wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William Gosvenor wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Holly wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:bc3c85ce-f30e-40b9-88b0-45898c27b6a3@41g2000hsc.googlegr

    >ou
    >>>ps.
    >>>>>c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>o
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >m:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Feb 29, 10:12?am, William Gosvenor
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Holly wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> innews:b1c7e15e-fa47-4461-af9f-753d73ee
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> d...@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > On Feb 26, 10:38=A0pm, ah
    >>>
    >>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > "pmd" wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>

    >>news:fq162c$c7t$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> "Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>news:41125188-7814-484f-beac-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> e906831f4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.>> >>>com.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> On Feb 23, 3:44 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>news:a3af5f5c-6b34-439e-8e19-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> fba79777a...@s19g2000prg.googlegroups>> >>>>.com
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>On Feb 23, 2:38 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>
    >>>>>>news:2d596a82-dcd7-49b0-bd6f-969616dcf142
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @t66g2000hsf.googlegroup>> >>>>>s.co
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > m...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>On Feb 23, 1:35 pm, "Mr Pounder"
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>"Holly" wrote in
    >>>>>>>message
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>
    >>>>>>>news:1a4fa20b-fba2-4189-8d0e-bdc7044325a9
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> @h11g2000prf.googlegrou
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>ps.c
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > om...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>How does a man know that his son or
    >>>>>daughter
    >>>>>>>>>is
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>his?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>are some things he might look for to

    >be
    >>>>>>>>>>>reassured
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wife didn't sleep
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>around?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I remember someone I met in Nepal who
    >>>had
    >>>>>>>>>hated
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>and alwa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ys
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>wished he would find out that his

    >mother
    >>>>>>>slept
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>milkman. On
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > e
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>day, at a public pool in Kathmandu, we
    >>>>>were
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>lounging
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>beneath a tree
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>probably stoned on ganja, just taking

    >in
    >>>>>all
    >>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>vibes, when t
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>guy said in a raised voice of
    >>>revelation,
    >>>>>>>>>"****
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Man!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I've
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>got pop's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>****ing feet! Look at that! Damn! I
    >>>never
    >>>>>>>>>>>noticed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>it
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>before. ****! There goes the milkman
    >>>>>>>theory."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>This struck me as a significant moment
    >>>in
    >>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>young
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>life, wh
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > en
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>he really made that intimate

    >connection
    >>>>>with
    >>>>>>>>>his
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>biological
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>father.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ?I
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>think that recognition helped him to
    >>>>>bridge
    >>>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>gap
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>had separa
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > ted
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>him from is dad for so many years.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>I wondered if fathers have a similar
    >>>>>>>>>experience.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Do
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>have any experiences as a dad that

    >you'd
    >>>>>>>care
    >>>>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>share?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>You post something like this,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>To hear your answer.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>yet why do you still run away from me?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>But Mr. Pounder,
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>What does this mean to you? What is the
    >>>>>>>>>>>connection?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>provide warmth and understanding and an
    >>>>>>>>>atmosphere
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>delightful humor?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>I ask myself ...why do I sense something
    >>>>>>>leaden
    >>>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>... something seemingly unmovable and
    >>>>>>>therefore
    >>>>>>>>>>>not
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>trustworthy?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You see, I have so little to go on ~~~
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>You have had your chance Holly.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Very well. I like a nice clean break, no
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>complications.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>Now, I expect you will not pose this
    >>>question
    >>>>>>>to
    >>>>>>>>>me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>again?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>You ran away from me; fact, not question.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>So sad.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Sad that you don't keep your wheelchair
    >>>tires
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>properly
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> inflated.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> You are not even a good troll.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >>> Mr Pounder
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> Mr Pounder please refrain from re-quoting
    >>>>>>>replies
    >>>>>>>>>in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> conjunction with y
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > our
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> own.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> You will only get one warning from me.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > Internet Gods will not suffer your
    >>>>>>>>>warning...........
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>or
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > something.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> LYTENING!!1!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > SHUTTUP!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Give me a blow job you stupid BITCH!

    >?GRRR!!!!!!-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Or what?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Just get on your knees and worship your master.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /I/ AM YOUR MASTER!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ah
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oook.redaction
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>*pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>>> *pffft*
    >>>>> *pffft*
    >>>> *pffft*
    >>> *pffft*

    >> *pffft*

    > *pffft*

    *pffft*

    --
    "Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic]
    should be your concern, Deco."
    -- David Tholen

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