This is a discussion on Re: AES CTR mode implementation - Openssl ; David C. Partridge writes: > Hmmm OK I do see you point here. I was sure I'd seen a discussion on the > net about this saying that it was dangerous to (e.g.) start the counter at > zero, and ...
David C. Partridge writes:
> Hmmm OK I do see you point here. I was sure I'd seen a discussion on the
> net about this saying that it was dangerous to (e.g.) start the counter at
> zero, and that a nonce should be built in, and that this part should remain
> constant. But, now that I've gone searching for it again I can't find it
Point is, what should we do when the counter wraps to 0 (if enough blocks
have gone through or the counter was ridiculously small)? Either way,
that's a flaw that should be taken care of at higher functional levels.
> I wonder why RFC3686 goes to the lengths it does to specify such a complex
> counter block with only the low order 32 bits being incremented???
For AES-CCM, I think it's because the length of the whole message has to be
known in advance. I haven't read the RFC very thorougly, but I think it
indicates that they therefore consider each packet (or at least the
jumbopacket) as one message, so a whole session is a serie of cryptographic
message. In a straightforward implementation, where the counter block is
just that, it means the counter is started over for each packet (or at least
jumbopacket). This is not good from a security point of view, at least as
long as the same key is used over a whole session (many packets). So I
imagine that having a bit of random data (like a unique enough nonce) in the
high parts of the counter (high enough that we don't really expect it to be
touched when incrementing the counter) is a move to counteract the effects
of CCM and the choises made with it.
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