This is a discussion on Re: Using OpenSSL ENGINE to get Certificate from Smartcard - Openssl ; Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: > In message on Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:14:25 -0600, "Douglas E. Engert" said: > > deengert> The OpenSSL ENGINE facilities had ENGINE_load_private_key, > deengert> and ENGINE_load_public_key, but do not have ENGINE_load_certificate. > deengert> ...
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
> In message <424D7361.firstname.lastname@example.org> on Fri, 01 Apr 2005 10:14:25 -0600, "Douglas E. Engert"
> deengert> The OpenSSL ENGINE facilities had ENGINE_load_private_key,
> deengert> and ENGINE_load_public_key, but do not have ENGINE_load_certificate.
> deengert> When the ENGINE is used by an application, such as the
> deengert> Heimdal PKINIT code to use a smartcard to get a Kerberos
> deengert> ticket the application does not have easy access to the
> deengert> certificate stored on the smartcard.
> In 0.9.8-dev, there's a potentially better mechanism that I started a
> while ago (more than a year), called a STORE, which also comes with
> ENGINE support. However, because of lack of funding, I haven't found
> the time to finish up (it's no small project). I hope to get the
> opportunity to feel financially safe enough to be able to finish that
> module. It would make it possible to retrieve (or retreive a handle
> to) quite a number of different types of data from any store, smart
> cards, SQLite databasees, LDAP repositories and whatnot.
> I could add ENGINE_load_certificate(), but that would (hopefully) just
> be a temporary solution before the grander solution (yes, I'm boasting
> it :-)) is firmly in place.
STORE sound interesting.
> deengert> The Heimdal code needs the certificate, as well as the key.
> deengert> Currently the certificate must be loaded off the card
> deengert> in a separate step, then passed in as a file.
> Hmm, I imagine that ENGINE_load_certificate() would still be a
> separate step. I hope that's not a problem...
Not really, as the OpenSC engine-pkcs11.so "opens" the card once,
and keeps it open to fetch the certificate then later sign the hash etc.
The ENGINE_load_certificate would be a big step forward.
The overhead I am seeing is having to basicly "open" the card twice
with two seperate programs, pkcs15-tool and kinit. In my case the
pkcs15 emulation code has to test the card, and read the certificate
twice. This extra overhead may be 5 to 20 seconds, which adds a lot to login.
Other cards may have different overhead.
Eventially the code should be called from a heimdal PKINIT PAM
routine, so having it all together would make it much easier.
Hopefully ENGINE_load_certificate is a small project,
and I can help.
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