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  1. File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    Hi. I need some advice/help on setting up file sharing. I've read
    numerous articles but none help. Ok so i have 3 computers. 2 have
    windows XP home edition and 1 has windows 98. Before i got my 3rd
    computer ( the computer with windows 98), i had just 2 computers
    networked ....both are running windows XP home edition. They are both
    connected to the net VIA a router. So basically i added a 3rd computer
    with windows 98 to the network. The internet on the win 98 machine
    works but nor file sharing. When i am on the windows 98 machine, i
    can;t see the other 2 computers on my network. However both XP
    machines can see one another but both cant see the win 98 machine. I
    have enabled file sharin on both XP machines and I also added printing
    and file sharing on the 98 machine...Win XP built in firewal (ICF) is
    disabled on the XP machines. What do I need to do so that both XP
    computers can see the 98 computer and also for the the 98 machine to
    see both XP computers? Thanks for your help!

    Sonny

  2. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    On 31 Jan 2004 21:46:20 -0800, jattdogg@hotmail.com (Sonny) wrote:

    >Hi. I need some advice/help on setting up file sharing. I've read
    >numerous articles but none help. Ok so i have 3 computers. 2 have
    >windows XP home edition and 1 has windows 98. Before i got my 3rd
    >computer ( the computer with windows 98), i had just 2 computers
    >networked ....both are running windows XP home edition. They are both
    >connected to the net VIA a router. So basically i added a 3rd computer
    >with windows 98 to the network. The internet on the win 98 machine
    >works but nor file sharing. When i am on the windows 98 machine, i
    >can;t see the other 2 computers on my network. However both XP
    >machines can see one another but both cant see the win 98 machine. I
    >have enabled file sharin on both XP machines and I also added printing
    >and file sharing on the 98 machine...Win XP built in firewal (ICF) is
    >disabled on the XP machines. What do I need to do so that both XP
    >computers can see the 98 computer and also for the the 98 machine to
    >see both XP computers? Thanks for your help!
    >
    >Sonny


    Are they all in the same workgroup, if so,
    First try pinging each computer from the others by IP and then by
    name.
    If it works by IP but not by name then it is a DNS problem.

    Taff.................



    www.sounds-pa.com | www.thecomputerworkshop.com

  3. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    one of the reasons could be that win98 can not ask you for login name, only
    for password when it is trying to login on winXP machine
    try to go to network settings of win98 machine
    (control panel -> network settings) and put login type "login for microsoft
    network" (i forgot exact name) and once you reboot win98 computer put user
    name "Administrator" and the password you are using on winXP for admin
    account.
    this this will force win98 to use same user info as on winxp - so winxp
    should allow you to login

    at least it worth to try...

    if it helps - on winXP machines you can create additional users (different
    from administrator) and use this users on win98 comp.
    also you can always instal NetBEU protocol
    (control panel -> network settings -> add protocol)
    on winXP this protocol will NOT be displayed in list but you can press "have
    disk"
    and point it out to CD with win windows XP setup disk

    D:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NET\NETBEUI\

    D: is the name of your CD-ROM drive..

    hope it helps

    regards
    Alex


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "taff"
    Newsgroups: comp.networks
    Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:08 AM
    Subject: Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98


    > On 31 Jan 2004 21:46:20 -0800, jattdogg@hotmail.com (Sonny) wrote:
    >
    > >Hi. I need some advice/help on setting up file sharing. I've read
    > >numerous articles but none help. Ok so i have 3 computers. 2 have
    > >windows XP home edition and 1 has windows 98. Before i got my 3rd
    > >computer ( the computer with windows 98), i had just 2 computers
    > >networked ....both are running windows XP home edition. They are both
    > >connected to the net VIA a router. So basically i added a 3rd computer
    > >with windows 98 to the network. The internet on the win 98 machine
    > >works but nor file sharing. When i am on the windows 98 machine, i
    > >can;t see the other 2 computers on my network. However both XP
    > >machines can see one another but both cant see the win 98 machine. I
    > >have enabled file sharin on both XP machines and I also added printing
    > >and file sharing on the 98 machine...Win XP built in firewal (ICF) is
    > >disabled on the XP machines. What do I need to do so that both XP
    > >computers can see the 98 computer and also for the the 98 machine to
    > >see both XP computers? Thanks for your help!
    > >
    > >Sonny

    >
    > Are they all in the same workgroup, if so,
    > First try pinging each computer from the others by IP and then by
    > name.
    > If it works by IP but not by name then it is a DNS problem.
    >
    > Taff.................
    >
    >
    >
    > www.sounds-pa.com | www.thecomputerworkshop.com




  4. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    "Alex" wrote in message news:...
    > one of the reasons could be that win98 can not ask you for login name, only
    > for password when it is trying to login on winXP machine
    > try to go to network settings of win98 machine
    > (control panel -> network settings) and put login type "login for microsoft
    > network" (i forgot exact name) and once you reboot win98 computer put user
    > name "Administrator" and the password you are using on winXP for admin
    > account.
    > this this will force win98 to use same user info as on winxp - so winxp
    > should allow you to login
    >
    > at least it worth to try...
    >
    > if it helps - on winXP machines you can create additional users (different
    > from administrator) and use this users on win98 comp.
    > also you can always instal NetBEU protocol
    > (control panel -> network settings -> add protocol)
    > on winXP this protocol will NOT be displayed in list but you can press "have
    > disk"
    > and point it out to CD with win windows XP setup disk
    >
    > D:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NET\NETBEUI\
    >
    > D: is the name of your CD-ROM drive..
    >
    > hope it helps
    >
    > regards
    > Alex
    >


    Ok...i'll explain a few things first. I have 3 computers but 2 are
    next to eachother..Let's call my computer "Computer-A" and has
    winxp...the one next to it is "computer-b" and has win 98....that will
    make it easier for me when you explain things...haha......ok...So, i
    tried to ping computer-b from computer-A and it worked fine wen
    pinging by name or by IP address. When i tried to ping Computer-A from
    computer-B, it didnt work at all. Also, Computer-b can ping itself and
    so can Computer-A. Here is something interesting though. On computer-b
    when i click on network neighbourhod and then click on entire network,
    it says "unable to browse the network....The network is not
    accessible" ...... This doesnt make sense. When clicking on network
    neighbourhood and then entire network , if anything, i should be able
    to see computer-b right? but i dont...yet i can ping it from
    itself...so thats confusing to me. Just so you know, I can access the
    internet from both computers..........ok, you said something about
    setting up or typing in my admin account info from the computer-a when
    i am logging in on computer-b...Ok, on my computer-A, i don't see an
    "administrator" account. I have my own account called "Sonny" and I
    have computer administrator rights because when i was installing XP on
    computer-A, that what I typed in. I also have my brothers account on
    computer-A called "Brother" and it has administrator rights too. So
    when i log into computer-b, do i tpye in "Sonny" for the user name and
    use the same password as i use on computer-A?
    BTW when in control pnael->network settings do i set "primary Network
    logon" to "Client for MS Networks" or "Windws Family Logon" or
    "Windows Logon". Right now it is set toi "Client for MS
    Networks"........

    Thanks for your help.....

  5. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    Ok, let's try again

    first make sure on BOTH A and B computers in network properties you have
    following :
    1. TCP/IP protocol
    2. Client for Microsoft Network
    3. File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Network
    4. NetBEUI protocol
    if you don't have something - on one of this computers - install it (make
    sure you have all 4 items on both computers).
    and in TCP/IP settings of both computers "optain an IP address
    automatically, optain an DNS address automatically" should be set, I assume
    it is, since that you have access to the internet from both computers, but
    it is better to check anyway.

    ok, now
    login to win98 by Using "Sonny" as a login name and your password
    and try to ping second computer, also try to ping router
    if you type " ipconfig" in command window you will see router ip address

    also please send me the ip address of win98, winxp and the router ip (if you
    won't get luck with file sharing)
    and the network mask (as you will get from ipconfig display)

    ok, next, if still no luck, check if firewall on windowsXP is enabled
    on windows XP - go to "my computer" , and click "sharing and security" of C
    drive (not the folders, C drive itself)
    window will pop-up - if may say something like "if you undestand sharing and
    security click here" - if you will see this
    - click this link to disable winXP firewall.

    if nothing helps, you can login to the router (ussially by wisiting web site
    with the same IP as router IP) and you can check your router settings, maybe
    where is some settings that prevent win98 from browsing local network..

    good luck


    "Sonny" wrote in message
    news:e33461f9.0402010938.33058f1@posting.google.co m...
    > "Alex" wrote in message

    news:...
    > > one of the reasons could be that win98 can not ask you for login name,

    only
    > > for password when it is trying to login on winXP machine
    > > try to go to network settings of win98 machine
    > > (control panel -> network settings) and put login type "login for

    microsoft
    > > network" (i forgot exact name) and once you reboot win98 computer put

    user
    > > name "Administrator" and the password you are using on winXP for admin
    > > account.
    > > this this will force win98 to use same user info as on winxp - so winxp
    > > should allow you to login
    > >
    > > at least it worth to try...
    > >
    > > if it helps - on winXP machines you can create additional users

    (different
    > > from administrator) and use this users on win98 comp.
    > > also you can always instal NetBEU protocol
    > > (control panel -> network settings -> add protocol)
    > > on winXP this protocol will NOT be displayed in list but you can press

    "have
    > > disk"
    > > and point it out to CD with win windows XP setup disk
    > >
    > > D:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NET\NETBEUI\
    > >
    > > D: is the name of your CD-ROM drive..
    > >
    > > hope it helps
    > >
    > > regards
    > > Alex
    > >

    >
    > Ok...i'll explain a few things first. I have 3 computers but 2 are
    > next to eachother..Let's call my computer "Computer-A" and has
    > winxp...the one next to it is "computer-b" and has win 98....that will
    > make it easier for me when you explain things...haha......ok...So, i
    > tried to ping computer-b from computer-A and it worked fine wen
    > pinging by name or by IP address. When i tried to ping Computer-A from
    > computer-B, it didnt work at all. Also, Computer-b can ping itself and
    > so can Computer-A. Here is something interesting though. On computer-b
    > when i click on network neighbourhod and then click on entire network,
    > it says "unable to browse the network....The network is not
    > accessible" ...... This doesnt make sense. When clicking on network
    > neighbourhood and then entire network , if anything, i should be able
    > to see computer-b right? but i dont...yet i can ping it from
    > itself...so thats confusing to me. Just so you know, I can access the
    > internet from both computers..........ok, you said something about
    > setting up or typing in my admin account info from the computer-a when
    > i am logging in on computer-b...Ok, on my computer-A, i don't see an
    > "administrator" account. I have my own account called "Sonny" and I
    > have computer administrator rights because when i was installing XP on
    > computer-A, that what I typed in. I also have my brothers account on
    > computer-A called "Brother" and it has administrator rights too. So
    > when i log into computer-b, do i tpye in "Sonny" for the user name and
    > use the same password as i use on computer-A?
    > BTW when in control pnael->network settings do i set "primary Network
    > logon" to "Client for MS Networks" or "Windws Family Logon" or
    > "Windows Logon". Right now it is set toi "Client for MS
    > Networks"........
    >
    > Thanks for your help.....




  6. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    On 1 Feb 2004 09:38:33 -0800, jattdogg@hotmail.com (Sonny) wrote:

    >BTW when in control pnael->network settings do i set "primary Network
    >logon" to "Client for MS Networks" or "Windws Family Logon" or
    >"Windows Logon". Right now it is set toi "Client for MS
    >Networks"........
    >
    >Thanks for your help.....


    Try running netsetup.exe (the network setup wizard) on the win98
    machine. You should find it on your winxp machine.

    Gotta go...,
    Butterfield


  7. Re: File sharing issue with windows xp home edition and windows 98

    hey Alex.
    I never put NEtbui on...i read up on this and decided not to do it. I
    checked a few other things but nothing was working. My friend happend
    to call me and i was telling him my problem. He told me to just
    install win2000 as he has a similar network at home with 2000 and Xp
    computer...The reason why i didnt put XP on the "98" computer was
    because it was on 300mhz and i knew it would be super slow. So i got a
    copy of win 2000 from him and isntalled it and presto everything works
    smoothely....well it works ahaha..The only problem is that when i am
    using the XP computer and trying to access files from the win 2000
    computer, it prompts me for a user name and password...so obvisouly i
    type in the info i use to log onto the win 2000 computer....is there a
    way to stop this from happening...also, seems to take awhile before it
    accesses teh files.....if not, thanks for all your help!

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