Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

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  #21  
Old 08-08-2008, 10:27 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to spell
> properly again.
>
> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but infact
> it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up with an
> idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.


At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
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  #22  
Old 08-08-2008, 11:39 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?



Tarkus wrote:
> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>
>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to spell
>> properly again.
>>
>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but infact
>> it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up with an
>> idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>

>
> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
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>

yes... what an easy word to spell, much easier than "superstitious
hypocrite". It is good when the language is expanded by simple words,
cause then simple people can (mis)use them.

for what its worth, I find the eng(au) dictionary more than sufficient
for my limited vocabulary. And the best thing about the Thunderbird
application and its add-ons is that its open source, so if I was unhappy
with it, I could CONTRIBUTE, and make it better.

p.s.

aluminium.


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  #23  
Old 08-09-2008, 03:47 AM
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Charles Wootten wrote:
> On 8/8/2008 1:22 PM Ron Hunter scribbled the following:
> .
>> Hummm. Storm, go to www.freerice.com and stay there for 15 minutes

>
>
> {{jumping in with an unrelated comment that requires no reply:
> Ron, that was fun. I got bored at a 1,000 grains of rice or vocab level
> 51.Appreciate you letting us know that site existed.}} {{charley}}


It's a great site. I usually manage to hang in at around 46-49. My
great niece, a recent Notre Dame grad manages 51, but then her knowledge
of French helps her a lot. Still, I think you expect too much of a free
dictionary/spell checker. Even the best spell checkers can't tell if
you mean 'passed' or 'past'. Grin.


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  #24  
Old 08-09-2008, 03:50 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Tarkus wrote:
> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>> spell properly again.
>>
>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.

>
> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.

Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that is
more than one should really expect from free software. I also have
WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any better
at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a much larger
dictionary.


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  #25  
Old 08-09-2008, 06:26 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 09.08.2008 00:01, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused G. R. Woodring
to generate the following:? :
> Date: 8/8/2008 5:39 PM, Author: Brian Austin - Versa net Wrote:
>
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter
>>>> to generate the following:? :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down that
>>>>>>> I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails. Granted,
>>>>>>> I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a bit larger
>>>>>>> than average, but Mozilla really needs to use something closer to
>>>>>>> a full-fledged spell-checker. This one is like having an
>>>>>>> 8-year-old looking over my shoulder and asking about my spelling.
>>>>>>> Very distracting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was
>>>>>> on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather
>>>>>> than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they
>>>>>> are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what I'm
>>>>>> asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad,
>>>>> but sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as
>>>>> an error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers
>>>>> would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is
>>>> still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>
>>>> reg
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>
>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all, maybe
>>> we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>
>>>

>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to spell
>> properly again.
>>
>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but infact
>> it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up with an
>> idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>
>>

>
> My Thunderbird en-US dictionary suggests that Aussie should be capitalized and
> that "infact" should be written as "in fact". Apparently _no_ dictionary is any
> good unless you _use_ it :-D
>
>


huh! g.r. - not if it makes that many mistakes obvious...

reg
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  #26  
Old 08-09-2008, 06:33 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin -
Versa net to generate the following:? :
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
>>> generate the following:? :
>>>
>>>
>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down that
>>>>>> I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails. Granted,
>>>>>> I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a bit larger
>>>>>> than average, but Mozilla really needs to use something closer to a
>>>>>> full-fledged spell-checker. This one is like having an 8-year-old
>>>>>> looking over my shoulder and asking about my spelling. Very
>>>>>> distracting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was on
>>>>> purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather than
>>>>> give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they are
>>>>> at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what I'm
>>>>> asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad, but
>>>> sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as an
>>>> error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers would
>>>> be happy to look at your code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for TB...
>>> haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is still
>>> lurking out there, someplace??
>>>
>>> reg
>>>
>>>

>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>
>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all, maybe
>> we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>> _______________________________________________
>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>
>>

> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to spell
> properly again.
>
> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but infact
> it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up with an
> idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>
>


Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from sending
them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of all
sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of New
Orleans - the brits won!
I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....

reg

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  #27  
Old 08-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

squaredancer wrote:
> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin -
> Versa net to generate the following:? :
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter
>>>> to generate the following:? :
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down
>>>>>>> that I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails.
>>>>>>> Granted, I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a
>>>>>>> bit larger than average, but Mozilla really needs to use
>>>>>>> something closer to a full-fledged spell-checker. This one is
>>>>>>> like having an 8-year-old looking over my shoulder and asking
>>>>>>> about my spelling. Very distracting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was
>>>>>> on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather
>>>>>> than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they
>>>>>> are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what
>>>>>> I'm asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad,
>>>>> but sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as
>>>>> an error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers
>>>>> would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is
>>>> still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>
>>>> reg
>>>>
>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>
>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all,
>>> maybe we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>

>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>> spell properly again.
>>
>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>
>>

>
> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from sending
> them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of all
> sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of New
> Orleans - the brits won!
> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>
> reg
>

You must be reading a different history book, or you live in another
universe. The US has fought two wars against the British, and won both
of them. Otherwise, we would be speaking English now. Grin.
I think the differences in spelling have a lot more to do with stingy
printers than any social decay, or even desire to just be 'different'.
The publishing industry has a LOT more influence on the way our language
is printed than anyone else.


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  #28  
Old 08-09-2008, 09:35 AM
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On 8/9/2008 3:47 AM Ron Hunter scribbled the following:

>
> It's a great site. I usually manage to hang in at around 46-49. My
> great niece, a recent Notre Dame grad manages 51, but then her knowledge
> of French helps her a lot. Still, I think you expect too much of a free


I've a Latin studies background with additional practical studies in
French and Italian. I'm trying to get a handle on basic Greek and Hebrew
for my own edification. So, like her, I've a bit of an advantage over
the average bear in figuring out word meanings.

> dictionary/spell checker. Even the best spell checkers can't tell if
> you mean 'passed' or 'past'. Grin.


When I was younger, there was a saying that nothing is better than the
"Mark I Eyeball." A thing that is rarely used in many of the posts in
the newsgroups to which I subscribe. heh.... (Storm may be delighted to
know that it was a girl who beat me at the National Spelling Bee more
years ago than I want to admit. heheh. We didn't have spell checkers
back in the day.)

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  #29  
Old 08-09-2008, 11:14 AM
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Ron Hunter wrote:
> Tarkus wrote:
>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>> spell properly again.
>>>
>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.

>>
>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.

> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that is
> more than one should really expect from free software. I also have
> WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any better
> at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a much larger
> dictionary.
>
>

A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect
spelling of a word in the context its used.

for example:

to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling depending
upon the sentence used.

Example:

I went to the ball game. is correct.

I went too the ball game - is not.

two many words are misused.

So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
spelling of words.

Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)


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Old 08-09-2008, 11:17 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

squaredancer wrote:
> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin -
> Versa net to generate the following:? :
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
>>>> generate the following:? :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down that
>>>>>>> I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails. Granted,
>>>>>>> I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a bit larger
>>>>>>> than average, but Mozilla really needs to use something closer to a
>>>>>>> full-fledged spell-checker. This one is like having an 8-year-old
>>>>>>> looking over my shoulder and asking about my spelling. Very
>>>>>>> distracting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was on
>>>>>> purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather than
>>>>>> give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they are
>>>>>> at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what I'm
>>>>>> asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad, but
>>>>> sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as an
>>>>> error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers would
>>>>> be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for TB...
>>>> haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is still
>>>> lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>
>>>> reg
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>
>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all, maybe
>>> we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>
>>>

>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to spell
>> properly again.
>>
>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but infact
>> it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up with an
>> idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>
>>

>
> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from sending
> them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of all
> sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of New
> Orleans - the brits won!
> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>
> reg
>

Say What!!

I believe you better read read that History book. ;-)

Last I heard we have a Democratic-Republic government While The Brits
still are ruled by a Queen. :-)

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  #31  
Old 08-09-2008, 11:20 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Ron Hunter wrote:
> squaredancer wrote:
>> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin -
>> Versa net to generate the following:? :
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter
>>>>> to generate the following:? :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down
>>>>>>>> that I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails.
>>>>>>>> Granted, I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a
>>>>>>>> bit larger than average, but Mozilla really needs to use
>>>>>>>> something closer to a full-fledged spell-checker. This one is
>>>>>>>> like having an 8-year-old looking over my shoulder and asking
>>>>>>>> about my spelling. Very distracting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was
>>>>>>> on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather
>>>>>>> than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they
>>>>>>> are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what
>>>>>>> I'm asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad,
>>>>>> but sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as
>>>>>> an error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers
>>>>>> would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is
>>>>> still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>>
>>>>> reg
>>>>>
>>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>>>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all,
>>>> maybe we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>>
>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>> spell properly again.
>>>
>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
>> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from sending
>> them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of all
>> sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of New
>> Orleans - the brits won!
>> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>>
>> reg
>>

> You must be reading a different history book, or you live in another
> universe. The US has fought two wars against the British, and won both
> of them. Otherwise, we would be speaking English now. Grin.
> I think the differences in spelling have a lot more to do with stingy
> printers than any social decay, or even desire to just be 'different'.
> The publishing industry has a LOT more influence on the way our language
> is printed than anyone else.
>
>

Ron week speak English.

Its the King's English like those folks in New England area of the US.
They still don't realize That We fought the Brits twice and beat the
socks off them Twice. ;-)

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  #32  
Old 08-09-2008, 11:21 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 09.08.2008 17:14, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Phillip M.
Jones, C.E.T to generate the following:? :
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> Tarkus wrote:
>>
>>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>>
>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>
>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>
>>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
>>>

>> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
>> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
>> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
>> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that is
>> more than one should really expect from free software. I also have
>> WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any better
>> at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a much larger
>> dictionary.
>>
>>
>>

> A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect
> spelling of a word in the context its used.
>
> for example:
>
> to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling depending
> upon the sentence used.
>
> Example:
>
> I went to the ball game. is correct.
>
> I went too the ball game - is not.
>
> two many words are misused.
>
> So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
> spelling of words.
>



> Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)
>
>
>

^^^^^^^ shouldn't that be spellt "piece" ??

reg
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  #33  
Old 08-09-2008, 11:27 AM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 09.08.2008 17:20, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Phillip M.
Jones, C.E.T to generate the following:? :
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>
>>> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin -
>>> Versa net to generate the following:? :
>>>
>>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter
>>>>>> to generate the following:? :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice and
>>>>>>>>> "simply" add the new words. But this one is so stripped-down
>>>>>>>>> that I'd spend more time adding words than writing my emails.
>>>>>>>>> Granted, I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary might be a
>>>>>>>>> bit larger than average, but Mozilla really needs to use
>>>>>>>>> something closer to a full-fledged spell-checker. This one is
>>>>>>>>> like having an 8-year-old looking over my shoulder and asking
>>>>>>>>> about my spelling. Very distracting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It was
>>>>>>>> on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions, rather
>>>>>>>> than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they
>>>>>>>> are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what
>>>>>>>> I'm asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help you
>>>>>>> find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty bad,
>>>>>>> but sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they are very
>>>>>>> amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always came up as
>>>>>>> an error, and 'random German' was the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers
>>>>>>> would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg dictionary...
>>>>>> don't know how to install it though.
>>>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is
>>>>>> still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but given
>>>>> that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at all,
>>>>> maybe we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>
>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
>>> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from sending
>>> them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of all
>>> sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of New
>>> Orleans - the brits won!
>>> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>>>
>>> reg
>>>
>>>

>> You must be reading a different history book, or you live in another
>> universe. The US has fought two wars against the British, and won both
>> of them. Otherwise, we would be speaking English now. Grin.
>> I think the differences in spelling have a lot more to do with stingy
>> printers than any social decay, or even desire to just be 'different'.
>> The publishing industry has a LOT more influence on the way our language
>> is printed than anyone else.
>>
>>
>>

> Ron week speak English.
>
> Its the King's English like those folks in New England area of the US.
> They still don't realize That We fought the Brits twice and beat the
> socks off them Twice. ;-)
>
>

ya'all been readin the "George Washington History of America" huh ???
lies - all lies!

reg
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  #34  
Old 08-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T, 2008/08/09 9:20 AM:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> squaredancer wrote:
>>> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian
>>> Austin - Versa net to generate the following:? :
>>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron
>>>>>> Hunter to generate the following:? :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice
>>>>>>>>> and "simply" add the new words. But this one is so
>>>>>>>>> stripped-down that I'd spend more time adding words than
>>>>>>>>> writing my emails. Granted, I'm a professional writer, so my
>>>>>>>>> vocabulary might be a bit larger than average, but Mozilla
>>>>>>>>> really needs to use something closer to a full-fledged
>>>>>>>>> spell-checker. This one is like having an 8-year-old looking
>>>>>>>>> over my shoulder and asking about my spelling. Very distracting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread
>>>>>>>> asking about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It
>>>>>>>> was on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions,
>>>>>>>> rather than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right
>>>>>>>> word. There are only 3 letter in common between the two words,
>>>>>>>> and they are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the
>>>>>>>> correct spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which
>>>>>>>> means what I'm asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help
>>>>>>> you find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are
>>>>>>> pretty bad, but sometimes they are right on target, and
>>>>>>> sometimes they are very amusing. I used to have a supervisor
>>>>>>> whose name always came up as an error, and 'random German' was
>>>>>>> the suggestion... Darn funny!
>>>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better
>>>>>>> suggestions from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the
>>>>>>> developers would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg
>>>>>> dictionary... don't know how to install it though.
>>>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he
>>>>>> is still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reg
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but
>>>>> given that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at
>>>>> all, maybe we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>>>
>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>
>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
>>> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from
>>> sending them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of
>>> all sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of
>>> New Orleans - the brits won!
>>> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>>>
>>> reg
>>>

>> You must be reading a different history book, or you live in another
>> universe. The US has fought two wars against the British, and won
>> both of them. Otherwise, we would be speaking English now. Grin.
>> I think the differences in spelling have a lot more to do with stingy
>> printers than any social decay, or even desire to just be 'different'.
>> The publishing industry has a LOT more influence on the way our
>> language is printed than anyone else.
>>
>>

> Ron week speak English.
>
> Its the King's English like those folks in New England area of the US.
> They still don't realize That We fought the Brits twice and beat the
> socks off them Twice. ;-)


What was the second time? In the War of 1812 the US tried to invade
Canada and we kicked their butts. The British burnt the White House and
much of Washington.

--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
Canada

Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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  #35  
Old 08-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Charles Wootten wrote:
> On 8/9/2008 3:47 AM Ron Hunter scribbled the following:
>
>>
>> It's a great site. I usually manage to hang in at around 46-49. My
>> great niece, a recent Notre Dame grad manages 51, but then her
>> knowledge of French helps her a lot. Still, I think you expect too
>> much of a free

>
> I've a Latin studies background with additional practical studies in
> French and Italian. I'm trying to get a handle on basic Greek and Hebrew
> for my own edification. So, like her, I've a bit of an advantage over
> the average bear in figuring out word meanings.
>
>> dictionary/spell checker. Even the best spell checkers can't tell if
>> you mean 'passed' or 'past'. Grin.

>
> When I was younger, there was a saying that nothing is better than the
> "Mark I Eyeball." A thing that is rarely used in many of the posts in
> the newsgroups to which I subscribe. heh.... (Storm may be delighted to
> know that it was a girl who beat me at the National Spelling Bee more
> years ago than I want to admit. heheh. We didn't have spell checkers
> back in the day.)
>
> {charley}

Well, I had two years of Latin, and a year of German, but that was
almost 50 years ago. The Latin is very good for figuring out some
rather obscure words, but judging by the words I see there, French would
be more useful.

The point is that while the spell checking dictionary is rather small,
and nowhere near the level of a college graduate (or even a person who
reads widely), it serves pretty well for most users, and given the cost,
it is rather hard to seriously fault it.
I would like some kind of 'soundex' facility for suggesting the correct
word, which is usually in the dictionary, but not suggested. However,
from experience, most other spell checkers also come up with some rather
amusing suggestions, totally unrelated in any visible way with the
misspelled word.
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  #36  
Old 08-09-2008, 01:40 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Tarkus wrote:
>>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>
>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>
>>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.

>> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
>> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
>> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
>> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that is
>> more than one should really expect from free software. I also have
>> WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any
>> better at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a much
>> larger dictionary.
>>
>>

> A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect spelling
> of a word in the context its used.
>
> for example:
>
> to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling depending
> upon the sentence used.
>
> Example:
>
> I went to the ball game. is correct.
>
> I went too the ball game - is not.
>
> two many words are misused.
>
> So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
> spelling of words.
>
> Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)
>
>

Maybe, someday, we will have a spell checker that can do context
analysis, and suggest the correct word/spelling. Surely a lot of
writers could use help with things like 'there', 'their', and "they're",
as well as 'your' and "you're", which are so often misused that it
drives me mad.
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  #37  
Old 08-09-2008, 01:41 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

squaredancer wrote:
> On 09.08.2008 17:14, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Phillip M.
> Jones, C.E.T to generate the following:? :
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Tarkus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>>
>>>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
>>>>
>>> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
>>> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
>>> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
>>> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that
>>> is more than one should really expect from free software. I also
>>> have WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any
>>> better at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a
>>> much larger dictionary.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect
>> spelling of a word in the context its used.
>>
>> for example:
>>
>> to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling
>> depending upon the sentence used.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> I went to the ball game. is correct.
>>
>> I went too the ball game - is not.
>>
>> two many words are misused.
>>
>> So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
>> spelling of words.
>>

>
>
>> Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)
>>
>>
>>

> ^^^^^^^ shouldn't that be spellt "piece" ??
>
> reg


"spellt"???? sigh.
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  #38  
Old 08-09-2008, 01:42 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> squaredancer wrote:
>> On 08.08.2008 23:39, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Brian Austin
>> - Versa net to generate the following:? :
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>> squaredancer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08.08.2008 19:27, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron
>>>>> Hunter to generate the following:? :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Storm wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this were a real spell-checker, I could follow your advice
>>>>>>>> and "simply" add the new words. But this one is so
>>>>>>>> stripped-down that I'd spend more time adding words than writing
>>>>>>>> my emails. Granted, I'm a professional writer, so my vocabulary
>>>>>>>> might be a bit larger than average, but Mozilla really needs to
>>>>>>>> use something closer to a full-fledged spell-checker. This one
>>>>>>>> is like having an 8-year-old looking over my shoulder and asking
>>>>>>>> about my spelling. Very distracting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree - in fact, I was just about to start a new thread asking
>>>>>>> about it's word suggestion algrythum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note the last word or the previous sentence is misspelled? It
>>>>>>> was on purpose. When I right-click on it to get suggestions,
>>>>>>> rather than give me "algorithm", it gave me "thumbnail".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THUMBNAIL? WTH?!!!! That is nowhere close to the right word.
>>>>>>> There are only 3 letter in common between the two words, and they
>>>>>>> are at the end of the word I typed in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fwiw, if I type "algrythum" into google search, I get the correct
>>>>>>> spelling in the "did you mean..." at the top. Which means what
>>>>>>> I'm asking for isn't all that unreasonable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh? You have a few terabytes and a few hundred servers to help
>>>>>> you find the right word? I grant that the suggestions are pretty
>>>>>> bad, but sometimes they are right on target, and sometimes they
>>>>>> are very amusing. I used to have a supervisor whose name always
>>>>>> came up as an error, and 'random German' was the suggestion...
>>>>>> Darn funny!
>>>>>> So, are you offering to write a routine to make better suggestions
>>>>>> from the installed dictionary? If so, I am sure the developers
>>>>>> would be happy to look at your code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC there is the possibility to use the OpenOfficeOrg
>>>>> dictionary... don't know how to install it though.
>>>>> There is also an aussie guy who was develloping a dictionary for
>>>>> TB... haven't heard from him for a few days though... perhaps he is
>>>>> still lurking out there, someplace??
>>>>>
>>>>> reg
>>>>>
>>>> Just what we need, and Aussie dictionary for the US users. Grin.
>>>> Isn't the dictionary TB/FF uses from an Open Source distribution?
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, I find the dictionary somewhat less than adequate, but
>>>> given that other similar browsers/email clients don't have one at
>>>> all, maybe we shouldn't be too hard on it.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> support-thunderbird mailing list
>>>> support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org
>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird
>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>>> support-thunderbird-request@lists.mozilla.org?subject=unsubscribe
>>>>
>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>> spell properly again.
>>>
>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Hurrah.... well said, young sir!
>> It all started when the americans tried to stop the british from
>> sending them into independance (they even sank boats-load of TEA, of
>> all sactimoniousities) but, despite squirrel-guns and the Battle of
>> New Orleans - the brits won!
>> I think that the american way of spelling is simply revenge....
>>
>> reg
>>

> Say What!!
>
> I believe you better read read that History book. ;-)
>
> Last I heard we have a Democratic-Republic government While The Brits
> still are ruled by a Queen. :-)
>

Actually, the Queen has about as much authority as the Governor of Texas.
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  #39  
Old 08-09-2008, 02:07 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 09.08.2008 19:41, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
generate the following:? :
> squaredancer wrote:
>
>> On 09.08.2008 17:14, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Phillip M.
>> Jones, C.E.T to generate the following:? :
>>
>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tarkus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
>>>> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
>>>> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
>>>> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that
>>>> is more than one should really expect from free software. I also
>>>> have WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any
>>>> better at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a
>>>> much larger dictionary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect
>>> spelling of a word in the context its used.
>>>
>>> for example:
>>>
>>> to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling
>>> depending upon the sentence used.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> I went to the ball game. is correct.
>>>
>>> I went too the ball game - is not.
>>>
>>> two many words are misused.
>>>
>>> So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
>>> spelling of words.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>> Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> ^^^^^^^ shouldn't that be spellt "piece" ??
>>
>> reg
>>

>
> "spellt"???? sigh.
>


perfectly correct english... spelled (which you would probably use) is
an americanism

reg
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  #40  
Old 08-09-2008, 02:08 PM
Default Re: Why is the TBird spellchecker so illiterate?

On 09.08.2008 19:40, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ron Hunter to
generate the following:? :
> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
>
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Tarkus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian Austin - Versa net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> perhaps an aussie dictionary is what you guys need to learn how to
>>>>> spell properly again.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you take the U out of colour, it may not seem like much but
>>>>> infact it is the start of social & political decay. You'll end up
>>>>> with an idiot as president, and the whole country going pear shaped.
>>>>>
>>>> At least most of us know how to spell bigot.
>>>>
>>> Ethnocentrism. My was is ALWAYS better. Still some spell checker is
>>> better than none at all, and unless one has MS Office, IE users have
>>> none. Don't use Opera, so I can't say if it offers one or not.
>>> My wife gets pretty good use from the TB/FF spell checker, and that is
>>> more than one should really expect from free software. I also have
>>> WordWeb Pro, which is definitely a cut above, but doesn't do any
>>> better at finding the right word, worse if anything, but it has a much
>>> larger dictionary.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> A dictionary of any type doesn't help with using the incorrect spelling
>> of a word in the context its used.
>>
>> for example:
>>
>> to, two, too are al spelled correctly yet can be a misspelling depending
>> upon the sentence used.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> I went to the ball game. is correct.
>>
>> I went too the ball game - is not.
>>
>> two many words are misused.
>>
>> So let us not get I knickers in a twist over the way other people's
>> spelling of words.
>>
>> Peace, and let us all go eat a Vegemite sandwich. ;-)
>>
>>
>>

> Maybe, someday, we will have a spell checker that can do context
> analysis, and suggest the correct word/spelling. Surely a lot of
> writers could use help with things like 'there', 'their', and "they're",
> as well as 'your' and "you're", which are so often misused that it
> drives me mad.
>


not to mention todays "cellphone language" ur

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