On 16.01.2007 12:43, Duncan Garland wrote:

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Date	Type	Competition	Home	Away
> href="rpt_MatchReport.htm?match_no=1&home_name=ENGLAND&away_name=AUSTRALIA"> > 11/01/2007	FC	1	ENGLAND	AUSTRALIA

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HTTP 1.1 (RFC 2068) specifies that all HTTP date/time stamps MUST be
generated in Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) and in RFC 1123 format.
RFC 1123 format = wkday "," SP date SP time SP "GMT"

wkday = (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat, Sun)
date = 2DIGIT SP month SP 4DIGIT ; day month year (e.g., 02 Jun 1982)
time = 2DIGIT ":" 2DIGIT ":" 2DIGIT ; 00:00:00 - 23:59:59
month = (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec)

Looks like you have it correct, dunno why it doesn't work tho.

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Jay Garcia Netscape/Mozilla Champion
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

Duncan Garland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've gone to quite a bit of trouble to set up a web site which controls the
> expiry date of it's pages using http-equiv expires.
>
> Everything works under IE, but discovered that Netscape isn't caching the
> pages. The pages get a clean bill of health from the w3c HTML validator, so
> I think they are formulates correctly.
>
> Does anybody know what the problem is? I've pasted an example below. It
> caches perfectly under IE.

[snip]

You expect people to copy/paste your code into a new doc, save it, then
upload it to their Web server to test it for you? Well, hell, ok, for
what it's worth: http://edmullen.net/temp/duncan.html

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html

See Section 7.4.4 ...

"User agents are not required to support meta data mechanisms. For those
that choose to support meta data, this specification does not define how
meta data should be interpreted."

I have no idea if or how Mozilla-based browsers handle the http-equiv
element, however, using "Live http Headers" and loading the page from my
Web server results in this:

http://ed.mullen.home.comcast.net/temp/duncan.html

GET /temp/duncan.html HTTP/1.1
Host: ed.mullen.home.comcast.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1
Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Connection: close
Cookie: RMFD=011H6s7RO104zpj; RMID=43bff69f44e1c070;
RMFW=011H5Xnc7104uwf;
NXCLICK2=011GwA4tNX_comcast.net/thefan!y!M!4zIS!5HuQ!M3!4zIS!5HuP
If-Modified-Since: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:18:54 GMT
If-None-Match: "312f74e6-12-353-45ae92be"
Cache-Control: max-age=0

HTTP/1.x 304 Use local copy
Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:29:16 GMT
Connection: close

So, I think that means that SeaMonkey IS reading the meta tag.

I'm not understanding what you're trying to accomplish here. What if I
(or another user) has their cache turned off?

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On 17/01/2007 22:35, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ed Mullen to
generate the following:? :
> Duncan Garland wrote:
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> I'm not understanding what you're trying to accomplish here. What if I
> (or another user) has their cache turned off?
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Then, Ed, the devs would realize that the cache is a waste of time, as
*NO-ONE* uses it, and then (see original thread in dev-group *lol* )
remove it from Moz-products!

And that would be *YOUR FAULT* (again) :-P :-P :-P

reg

On 17.01.2007 15:44, squaredancer wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> On 17/01/2007 22:35, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ed Mullen to
> generate the following:? :
>> Duncan Garland wrote:
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>> I'm not understanding what you're trying to accomplish here. What if I
>> (or another user) has their cache turned off?
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> Then, Ed, the devs would realize that the cache is a waste of time, as
> *NO-ONE* uses it, and then (see original thread in dev-group *lol* )
> remove it from Moz-products!
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> And that would be *YOUR FAULT* (again) :-P :-P :-P
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> reg

Waddaya mean nobody uses it. Ask those DIALUP users that have 56k
connections at best.


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Jay Garcia Netscape/Mozilla Champion
UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

squaredancer wrote:
> On 17/01/2007 22:35, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Ed Mullen to
> generate the following:? :
>> Duncan Garland wrote:
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>> I'm not understanding what you're trying to accomplish here. What if
>> I (or another user) has their cache turned off?
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> Then, Ed, the devs would realize that the cache is a waste of time, as
> *NO-ONE* uses it, and then (see original thread in dev-group *lol* )
> remove it from Moz-products!
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> And that would be *YOUR FAULT* (again) :-P :-P :-P
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> reg

Oh ****.

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