Miles wrote:
> Installed RoboForm in FF 1.0.5.8-9 and it's far superior to FF's
> Password Mgr. Even using the java "remember passwords" it frequently
> does not; whereby RoboForm never skips a beat.
>
> Did discover by reading their info that it's best to turn off FF PW Mgr
> as that can affect RF's performance -- which it did as many were not
> being saved; so I shut it down and now no difficulty. And of course, it
> does a fine job of completing forms as well.
Just be careful it doesn't complete forms you don't SEE, such as those
several screens lower than you read. And don't tell it anything you
don't want everyone to know!


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Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

Ron Hunter wrote:
> Miles wrote:
>> Installed RoboForm in FF 1.0.5.8-9 and it's far superior to FF's
>> Password Mgr. Even using the java "remember passwords" it frequently
>> does not; whereby RoboForm never skips a beat.
>>
>> Did discover by reading their info that it's best to turn off FF PW
>> Mgr as that can affect RF's performance -- which it did as many were
>> not being saved; so I shut it down and now no difficulty. And of
>> course, it does a fine job of completing forms as well.
> Just be careful it doesn't complete forms you don't SEE, such as those
> several screens lower than you read. And don't tell it anything you
> don't want everyone to know!
>
>
Thanks for the tip! Yes, I immediately blocked banks and a few others.
Generally speaking, I've always made it a habit to scroll to the
bottom of a page where a form is being filled in -- yes, I have noticed
that if I inadvertently click on the roboform window to complete forms,
it sometimes completes unwanted stuff. Still need to study the help
and options to find a way to prevent that screen from auto popping up
and to open only when it is told.

Miles wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Miles wrote:
>>> Installed RoboForm in FF 1.0.5.8-9 and it's far superior to FF's
>>> Password Mgr. Even using the java "remember passwords" it frequently
>>> does not; whereby RoboForm never skips a beat.
>>>
>>> Did discover by reading their info that it's best to turn off FF PW
>>> Mgr as that can affect RF's performance -- which it did as many were
>>> not being saved; so I shut it down and now no difficulty. And of
>>> course, it does a fine job of completing forms as well.
>> Just be careful it doesn't complete forms you don't SEE, such as those
>> several screens lower than you read. And don't tell it anything you
>> don't want everyone to know!
>>
>>
> Thanks for the tip! Yes, I immediately blocked banks and a few others.
> Generally speaking, I've always made it a habit to scroll to the
> bottom of a page where a form is being filled in -- yes, I have noticed
> that if I inadvertently click on the roboform window to complete forms,
> it sometimes completes unwanted stuff. Still need to study the help
> and options to find a way to prevent that screen from auto popping up
> and to open only when it is told.

I don't know if Roboform has options to limit fill-in to what is
displayed, but when I investigated the program some years ago, it
didn't, and I was concerned that it would provide more information to a
site than I wanted it too, and promptly deleted it. I often remind
users to be cautious in using programs of this type, and advise them not
to make the fill-in of forms automatic, and not to give the program any
information which could be used by identity thieves, or others just to
gather personal information.
Often security and convenience are at odds with eachother, and as lazy
as I am, I prefer to fill in the forms myself to preserve security.


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Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

Ron Hunter wrote:
> Miles wrote:
>> Installed RoboForm in FF 1.0.5.8-9 and it's far superior to FF's
>> Password Mgr. Even using the java "remember passwords" it frequently
>> does not; whereby RoboForm never skips a beat.
>>
>> Did discover by reading their info that it's best to turn off FF PW
>> Mgr as that can affect RF's performance -- which it did as many were
>> not being saved; so I shut it down and now no difficulty. And of
>> course, it does a fine job of completing forms as well.
> Just be careful it doesn't complete forms you don't SEE, such as those
> several screens lower than you read. And don't tell it anything you
> don't want everyone to know!
>
>
I'm with Ron on this. I use Roboform a lot but have never entered things
like credit card or bank account details into it.


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Regards

Steve G

Ron Hunter wrote on 12/24/2006 12:08 AM:
>
> I don't know if Roboform has options to limit fill-in to what is
> displayed, but when I investigated the program some years ago, it
> didn't, and I was concerned that it would provide more information to a
> site than I wanted it too, and promptly deleted it.

Current releases of RoboForm warn when sensitive fields have been
filled, even if they are currently off the screen. You can also select
to only fill empty fields or you can "edit" the RoboForm Passcard and
use the cut icon to copy fields one by one for pasting onto the browser
field.

If you choose autofill, you might want to select the option to only fill
from Passcards on pages with password fields. Or you might choose not to
autofill from Identities, which is where your credit card info is stored.

Siber Systems has a portable version of RoboForm called Pass2Go that
works from a USB drive. Not only is it portable, but if you take the
drive with you, it's more secure than leaving data on your desktop
computer, assuming you treat your USB drive with the care you use with
your wallet. (Amazing that many people don't.)

RoboForm allows you to have unique passwords per site, so if one site is
cracked, your other sites are still secure. The Passcards also function
as bookmarks of a sort, allowing you to keep sensitive bookmarks out of
your browser. It works with IE and FF, so even if you use IEtab,
RoboForm still works. I also use it to store software registration keys
and other important notes that I need when I use my computer.

Since RoboForm won't fill a field unless it is properly named on the
proper web page, RF protects against phishing. If your web site changes
their login form, just redo the Passcard.

I've been using RoboForm for about four years. It's one of the best
utilities I ever used and I gladly pay for it. I use Pass2Go and also
use GoodSync, the best file synchronizer I've ever seen.

I have no affiliation with Siber Systems, but I know good software when
I use it. I have no qualms about storing my credit card info in
RoboForm, as it makes online buying much simpler and more reliable. If
you have qualms, look into Pass2Go and while you are at it,
PortableApps.com for versions of your favorite tools that run from the
USB drive. Now if I could only get all this stuff to run from my digital
audio player, I'd be a happy clam, I mean, cephalopod.

--
Kent

Kent W. England wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote on 12/24/2006 12:08 AM:
>>
>> I don't know if Roboform has options to limit fill-in to what is
>> displayed, but when I investigated the program some years ago, it
>> didn't, and I was concerned that it would provide more information to
>> a site than I wanted it too, and promptly deleted it.
>
> Current releases of RoboForm warn when sensitive fields have been
> filled, even if they are currently off the screen. You can also select
> to only fill empty fields or you can "edit" the RoboForm Passcard and
> use the cut icon to copy fields one by one for pasting onto the browser
> field.
>
> If you choose autofill, you might want to select the option to only fill
> from Passcards on pages with password fields. Or you might choose not to
> autofill from Identities, which is where your credit card info is stored.
>
> Siber Systems has a portable version of RoboForm called Pass2Go that
> works from a USB drive. Not only is it portable, but if you take the
> drive with you, it's more secure than leaving data on your desktop
> computer, assuming you treat your USB drive with the care you use with
> your wallet. (Amazing that many people don't.)
>
> RoboForm allows you to have unique passwords per site, so if one site is
> cracked, your other sites are still secure. The Passcards also function
> as bookmarks of a sort, allowing you to keep sensitive bookmarks out of
> your browser. It works with IE and FF, so even if you use IEtab,
> RoboForm still works. I also use it to store software registration keys
> and other important notes that I need when I use my computer.
>
> Since RoboForm won't fill a field unless it is properly named on the
> proper web page, RF protects against phishing. If your web site changes
> their login form, just redo the Passcard.
>
> I've been using RoboForm for about four years. It's one of the best
> utilities I ever used and I gladly pay for it. I use Pass2Go and also
> use GoodSync, the best file synchronizer I've ever seen.
>
> I have no affiliation with Siber Systems, but I know good software when
> I use it. I have no qualms about storing my credit card info in
> RoboForm, as it makes online buying much simpler and more reliable. If
> you have qualms, look into Pass2Go and while you are at it,
> PortableApps.com for versions of your favorite tools that run from the
> USB drive. Now if I could only get all this stuff to run from my digital
> audio player, I'd be a happy clam, I mean, cephalopod.
>

Thanks for the info and I've now gone through Options and set it up so
it doesn't auto fill forms or passwords unless I tell it to based on
clicking a button in the toolbar which has identified the site as being
in the list. This also prevents that annoying window constantly popping up.

And the credit card nbr and my signature is not kept on the computer, so
no difficulty there. Have downloaded Pass2Go and will put that on the
thumb drive this week when setting up for another trip -- plan to wipe
it and then reinstall Ff & Tb, along with RoboForm.

Incidentally RoboForm is superior to Ff's Password Mgr in that many
sites Ff can't save the PW even if using java to open the Mgr. However,
RF apparently works every time! Am yet to open and attempt to fill a
form which goes off screen, but am not concerned.
Miles