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  1. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    squaredancer wrote:
    > On 22.04.2006 17:41, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Melchert
    > Fruitema to generate the following:? :
    >
    >> On 22-04-2006 09:19 CET, Alex composed this enchanting statement:
    >>
    >>> <>
    >>>
    >>>> <>
    >>>>
    >>> Good morning Melchert, I see you beat me to the draw!
    >>>
    >>> Guess I don't type fast enough until I've had a couple cups of
    >>> coffee. :-)
    >>>

    >> I type with two fingers and a thumb, so not really fast. My kids use
    >> them all and type over 150 strokes a minute; I'll settle for an
    >> average of 40 strikes and 3 misses.... 8-)
    >>

    > ..... just looked up the anatomy charts for "Thumb" - checked my parts
    > and "yes, I've got one" :-\
    > Didn't know that it could be used to type with??? :-[
    > two-finger-search-and-hope-system here, especially as the letters under
    > the keys keep changing....
    >
    > reg


    LOL! I've heard of hunt-and-peck, but search-and-hope, I like that! :-)

    --
    Alex

  2. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ron Hunter wrote:
    > The Real Bev wrote:
    >> Ron Hunter wrote:
    >>
    >>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>> A True typist: If you're typing a word and the word ends on a letter
    >>>> with the right hand, then you're supposed to use your left thumb for
    >>>> the spacebar.
    >>>>
    >>>> A non-true typist: if you're right handed, then you'll always use
    >>>> your right thumb for the spacebar. A hunt and pecker will use
    >>>> whatever is convenient
    >>>>
    >>> I was taught to type in 1959. We had old Royal and Underwood manual
    >>> typewriters. We were taught to use the right thumb only. Keyboards
    >>> back then didn't have any contrl or alt keys. Grin.

    >> 1952 for me, and I had one of those nifty Underwoods, which had an
    >> amazingly light touch. I'm ashamed to say that I never learned the top
    >> row of keys, but I could hit 120 on a good day. Haven't gone over 80 in
    >> the last couple of decades, though. Fastest typist I knew was a
    >> champion baton twirler.
    >>
    >> Every once in a while I snicker when I remember that I've got most of
    >> the jobs I've had because of something I learned in 7th grade :-)
    >>
    >> Receptionist. Admin Assistant. Data Entry. Project Manager. QA
    >> Specialist. Editor/Proofreader. Maybe I'll grow up soon...
    >>

    > Even though I worked with keyboards from 1968 to 2003, I NEVER admitted
    > to being a touch typist on any application, and kept it a complete
    > secret while in the Air Force. My idea of Hell is to sit at a keyboard
    > doing typing, or data entry for 8 hours a day! I was warned by a friend
    > that if I admitted to being able to type, that is what I would do for 4
    > years. I saw others who fell to that fate, and was grateful for the
    > advice. While I spent most of my time in front of a keyboard, my
    > entries were brief commands, not continuous data entry, or text entry.


    Hehe, know what you mean. I was a radio maintenance tech in the Air
    Force. Once my NCOIC found out I was into computers, I got stuck
    updating the maintenance records for our shop. Wasn't bad though, only
    about once a week, & it got me out of the shop, as the terminal was over
    in the main squadron building.

    --
    Alex

  3. [OT]Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > Irwin Greenwald wrote:
    >> Ed Mullen wrote:
    >>> Ron Hunter wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I was taught to type in 1959. We had old Royal and Underwood manual
    >>>> typewriters. We were taught to use the right thumb only. Keyboards
    >>>> back then didn't have any contrl or alt keys. Grin.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> You only preceded me by a couple a years. And I don't mind the added
    >>> ALT and ESC and CTRL keys, I just object to how they have moved
    >>> around the keyboard over the years. Geez. ASDF...JKL; Hello? It
    >>> works because it DOES NOT CHANGE! Sheesh. Every time I buy a new
    >>> computer it comes with a different keyboard. Not vastly different,
    >>> just, well, it's those tiny "improvements" that MAKE ME FREAKING CRAZY!
    >>>
    >>> Umm, does anyone out there actually use the WINDOWS key on a regular
    >>> basis? Get rid of that one and the CTRL keys get back to where they
    >>> should be, and were, on a PC keyboard of 15 years ago.
    >>>

    >>>

    >>
    >> Must be terrible to be an old, curmudgeonly, *touch typist* :-D
    >>
    >> Irwin
    >>

    >
    > It would be more terrible to NOT be an old, curmudgeonly, touch typist!
    > I mean, hey, the only other option is ... uh ... to not be at all!
    >
    > It's funny, I remember when my mother made me go to summer school, not
    > because I needed to, just because I was going into the 7th grade and,
    > WOW! ... the demands of academia would be so severe. Oooo!
    >
    > I took touch typing and a class on "how to study." No recollection of
    > the actual title of the class. That was back about 1962. Both have
    > served me well. Even though Mom (let alone me!) could never have
    > envisioned personal computers back then, or how any of that would apply
    > later on. But, I now bang away at about 100 words per minute. So that's
    > helpful. Not sure about the anal-retentiveness and compulsive
    > organization tendencies though. Fortunately, Dad's sense of the absurd
    > seems to have stuck with me so I'm only mildly conflicted and, at this
    > age, none of it seems bothersome at all. And my wife recently told me to
    > go buy another guitar. Hey, how much can a guy ask for? ;-)
    >


    I went to an engineering H.S.; what's a typewriter? Decided to go to
    adult night school in the early fifties to learn typing. My bad back
    gave out after a few weeks and that ended the experience.

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  4. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > Ron Hunter wrote:
    >
    >> I was taught to type in 1959. We had old Royal and Underwood
    >> manual typewriters. We were taught to use the right thumb only.
    >> Keyboards back then didn't have any contrl or alt keys. Grin.

    >
    >
    > You only preceded me by a couple a years. And I don't mind the
    > added ALT and ESC and CTRL keys, I just object to how they have
    > moved around the keyboard over the years. Geez. ASDF...JKL;
    > Hello? It works because it DOES NOT CHANGE! Sheesh. Every time I
    > buy a new computer it comes with a different keyboard. Not
    > vastly different, just, well, it's those tiny "improvements"
    > that MAKE ME FREAKING CRAZY!
    >
    > Umm, does anyone out there actually use the WINDOWS key on a
    > regular basis? Get rid of that one and the CTRL keys get back
    > to where they should be, and were, on a PC keyboard of 15 years
    > ago.


    I learned circa 1947/8, on the same ancient Royals, Underwoods,
    etc. from the '20s with two inch key travel. If you weren't
    careful you got your whole hand caught in there, up to the wrist.
    I used an old typing course manual, with exercises, and got up to
    60 or so wpm. No such thing as an instructor. I developed the
    'wrong thumb' syndrome for spacing, and have it to this day.

    When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I
    couldn't use it. Much too sensitive, bloody keys went off when my
    hands were anywhere near the keyboard, leaving a great mess on the
    paper (and 3 carbon copies).

    Nobody in their right mind even allows those Windows keys to
    exist. They go out and haunt Salvation Army etc. for real
    keyboards, with proper width space bars.

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  5. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:27:45 -0700, The Real Bev wrote in message
    :

    >> Ed Mullen wrote:
    >>> Umm, does anyone out there actually use the WINDOWS key on a regular
    >>> basis?

    >
    > Windows key? What's a windows key?


    The keys with the Windows(TM) logo on it. They're located next to the Alt
    and AltGr keys on most Windows keyboards.

  6. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    CBFalconer wrote:

    > When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I


    what is an electri tripewriter. Never heard of it.


    > couldn't use it. Much too sensitive, bloody keys went off when my
    > hands were anywhere near the keyboard, leaving a great mess on the
    > paper (and 3 carbon copies).
    >


    carbons -- I've still got several boxes of those hanging around
    somewhere. Can't get rid of them, not even in my garage sales.

    --
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    burns the toast to a horrible crisp, which no decent human being would
    eat?

  7. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Iceman wrote:

    > On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:27:45 -0700, The Real Bev wrote in message
    > :
    >
    >>> Ed Mullen wrote:
    >>>> Umm, does anyone out there actually use the WINDOWS key on a regular
    >>>> basis?

    >> Windows key? What's a windows key?

    >
    > The keys with the Windows(TM) logo on it. They're located next to the Alt
    > and AltGr keys on most Windows keyboards.


    Really? My Windows key also bears the inscription "alt option", while the one to its right say "Alt" and bears an Apple logo and that quad-loopy thing.

    What's AltGr?

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  8. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Iceman wrote:

    > On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:27:45 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
    >
    >>> Ed Mullen wrote:
    >>>> Umm, does anyone out there actually use the WINDOWS key on a regular
    >>>> basis?

    >>
    >> Windows key? What's a windows key?

    >
    > The keys with the Windows(TM) logo on it. They're located next to the Alt
    > and AltGr keys on most Windows keyboards.


    Yeah, I know. Cheesy keyboards. I want a keyboard that can
    do serious damage to jerks who sneak up behind you and yell BOO! (Hint:
    memorizing where the cable comes out and its length will save a world
    of disappointment should you wish to use it as a weapon.)

    Neat to re-program it to something useful and put a little Tux keytop on
    it. BTW, those Tux computer badges from the guy in England are
    definitely worth the price.

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  9. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ron Hunter wrote:

    > My main problem is with the shift key. One the old manual
    > typewriters, you banged the shift key, and then hit the letter key
    > while the carriage moved (up or down depending on manufacturer), and
    > I have NEVER gotten used to having to HOLD the damn thing down.


    Huh? If you released it before typing the letter, the keyset just moved
    back to the normal place, possibly resulting in what your typing teacher
    called a dropped cap and took 5 words off your score for.

    > Seems a slight 'hold' could be put on the shift key to accommodate us
    > old dogs that just don't seem to be able to reprogram that reflex.
    > As for moving keys around, I worked in IT for 40 years, and daily
    > used half a dozen different types of keyboard. Never was much of a
    > problem after a while as I could determine which type keyboard I was
    > on by the feel. Funny I could do that that, but never have gotten
    > used to the 'non-ballistic' shift key.


    Our fingers were a lot stronger in The Old Days(tm). I'd think you'd
    like the IBM Model M keyboards... I'd like to disable the CapsLock key
    or turn it into a second Shift key -- more useful, less likely to cause
    grief. And the Control key is too far away. As a WordStar user, I got
    used to the Control/esdx cursor movement method, and it just doesn't
    work right the way it is.

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  10. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ron Hunter wrote:

    > The Real Bev wrote:


    >> Every once in a while I snicker when I remember that I've got most of
    >> the jobs I've had because of something I learned in 7th grade :-)
    >>
    >> Receptionist. Admin Assistant. Data Entry. Project Manager. QA
    >> Specialist. Editor/Proofreader. Maybe I'll grow up soon...
    >>

    > Even though I worked with keyboards from 1968 to 2003, I NEVER admitted
    > to being a touch typist on any application, and kept it a complete
    > secret while in the Air Force.


    My first post-motherhood job involved secretarying for a former Army
    clerk. He could read my shorthand notes when I couldn't, which was very
    handy. He was also better at filing. One thing you never want to do is
    work for somebody who is just serving out his time waiting for retirement.

    > My idea of Hell is to sit at a keyboard
    > doing typing, or data entry for 8 hours a day! I was warned by a friend
    > that if I admitted to being able to type, that is what I would do for 4
    > years. I saw others who fell to that fate, and was grateful for the
    > advice. While I spent most of my time in front of a keyboard, my
    > entries were brief commands, not continuous data entry, or text entry.


    In a small company, data entry can actually be fun. For one thing, if
    you pay attention you know more about what's happening than anybody else
    in the company. Especially if a different part of the job is using the
    databases to generate useful information...that nobody really wants to
    know about because it's easier and cheaper to have a generous return
    policy than fix the problem :-(

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  11. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    gwtc wrote:

    > CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    >> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I


    Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!

    > what is an electri tripewriter. Never heard of it.
    >
    >> couldn't use it. Much too sensitive, bloody keys went off when my
    >> hands were anywhere near the keyboard, leaving a great mess on the
    >> paper (and 3 carbon copies).


    HAH! If you couldn't get six copies you weren't ****!

    Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    never occurred to me to buy stock.

    Dumb.

    > carbons -- I've still got several boxes of those hanging around
    > somewhere. Can't get rid of them, not even in my garage sales.


    I once bought a box of it at a yard sale, but I can't remember why.

    There IS, however, a use for greenbar fanfold paper -- shopping lists
    for elderly macular degeneration victims. My MIL couldn't read letters
    smaller than 2" high and went through a couple of cases of the stuff.

    --
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  12. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    gwtc wrote:
    > CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    >> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I

    >
    > what is an electri tripewriter. Never heard of it.


    Machines that write tripe. What else? Especially useful in yellow
    journalism.

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  13. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    The Real Bev wrote:
    > gwtc wrote:
    >
    >> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>
    >>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I

    >
    > Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!


    Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!

    > Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    > coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    > copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    > copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    > never occurred to me to buy stock.
    >


    Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    fluid's fumes.

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  14. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > The Real Bev wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I

    >>
    >> Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!

    >
    > Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!
    >
    >> Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    >> coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    >> copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    >> copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    >> never occurred to me to buy stock.
    >>

    >
    > Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    > fluid's fumes.
    >

    Our local schools STILL use mimeograph machines. Brings back some
    interesting memories....

  15. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    The Real Bev wrote:
    > Ron Hunter wrote:
    >
    >> My main problem is with the shift key. One the old manual
    >> typewriters, you banged the shift key, and then hit the letter key
    >> while the carriage moved (up or down depending on manufacturer), and
    >> I have NEVER gotten used to having to HOLD the damn thing down.

    >
    > Huh? If you released it before typing the letter, the keyset just moved
    > back to the normal place, possibly resulting in what your typing teacher
    > called a dropped cap and took 5 words off your score for.
    >
    >> Seems a slight 'hold' could be put on the shift key to accommodate us
    >> old dogs that just don't seem to be able to reprogram that reflex.
    >> As for moving keys around, I worked in IT for 40 years, and daily
    >> used half a dozen different types of keyboard. Never was much of a
    >> problem after a while as I could determine which type keyboard I was
    >> on by the feel. Funny I could do that that, but never have gotten
    >> used to the 'non-ballistic' shift key.

    >
    > Our fingers were a lot stronger in The Old Days(tm). I'd think you'd
    > like the IBM Model M keyboards... I'd like to disable the CapsLock key
    > or turn it into a second Shift key -- more useful, less likely to cause
    > grief. And the Control key is too far away. As a WordStar user, I got
    > used to the Control/esdx cursor movement method, and it just doesn't
    > work right the way it is.
    >


    If one learned the timing correctly, the shift key could be 'stabbed',
    and the letter key pressed at exactly the correct time. I was very good
    at that, and can't get used to having to HOLD the darn key down. My
    only problem with electronic keyboards....

  16. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:
    > The Real Bev wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I

    >>
    >> Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!

    >
    > Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!
    >
    >> Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    >> coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    >> copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    >> copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    >> never occurred to me to buy stock.
    >>

    >
    > Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    > fluid's fumes.
    >

    But the gelatinous Hectograph preceded them all. And the purple copies
    were priceless.

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  17. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:

    > The Real Bev wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I

    >>
    >> Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!

    >
    > Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!


    Never used one of those. I remember telling people I could make drum
    cards for the keypunch machines, though. I figured if anybody ever
    asked me to do it I could read the manual... In 1977 there was ONE word
    processor (Wang, I think) in our particular McDonnell-Douglas
    installation, run by a really sharp woman who took no prisoners. She
    gave me a demo which impressed the hell out of me. The disks cost
    something like $25 each. Who could have predicted....

    >> Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    >> coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    >> copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    >> copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    >> never occurred to me to buy stock.

    >
    > Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    > fluid's fumes.


    No, that was ditto -- the purple stuff, right? Mimeograph used
    paper-backed masters with plastic-covered webbing -- if you wanted to
    correct something you filled in the error with blue or green stuff and
    typed it over. The ink was forced through the webbing (or something) and
    god help you if you wanted to run a second batch. Offset was nicer --
    shiny paper that you used with a special carbon ribbon (not the ordinary
    carbon ribbon), and you could cut and paste the damn things for real.
    Multilith, that's it. Very classy. I did a LOT of proposals on
    multilith masters.

    No, I'm talking about REAL copy machines. You put a duplicating sheet
    next to your original, exposed them both to some light (yellow?) and
    then put the duplicated sheet through a solution and then maybe a drying
    roller. You only copied stuff you really NEEDED to copy.

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  18. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Irwin Greenwald wrote:

    > Ed Mullen wrote:
    >> The Real Bev wrote:
    >>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I
    >>>
    >>> Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was fun!

    >>
    >> Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!
    >>
    >>> Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    >>> coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted to
    >>> copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back beautiful
    >>> copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet machines and it
    >>> never occurred to me to buy stock.

    >>
    >> Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    >> fluid's fumes.
    >>

    > But the gelatinous Hectograph preceded them all. And the purple copies
    > were priceless.


    I thought that the purple stuff was ditto... Damn, our institutional
    memory ain't what it used to be.

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  19. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    The Real Bev wrote:
    > Ed Mullen wrote:
    >
    >> The Real Bev wrote:
    >>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> When introduced to that modern marvel, an electric tripewriter, I
    >>>
    >>> Anybody else here right-justify on an IBM Executive? Damn, that was
    >>> fun!

    >>
    >> Remember the Mag Card IBMs? We did our wedding invitations on one!

    >
    > Never used one of those. I remember telling people I could make drum
    > cards for the keypunch machines, though. I figured if anybody ever
    > asked me to do it I could read the manual... In 1977 there was ONE word
    > processor (Wang, I think) in our particular McDonnell-Douglas
    > installation, run by a really sharp woman who took no prisoners. She
    > gave me a demo which impressed the hell out of me. The disks cost
    > something like $25 each. Who could have predicted....
    >
    >>> Anybody remember the old wet copy-machines? Xerox machines were just
    >>> coming in when I had my first job. You messengered what you wanted
    >>> to copy out to the Main Office and the next day you'd get back
    >>> beautiful copies. I KNEW how much better it was than the wet
    >>> machines and it never occurred to me to buy stock.

    >>
    >> Mimeograph machines. Indeed. You could almost get high from the
    >> fluid's fumes.

    >
    > No, that was ditto -- the purple stuff, right? Mimeograph used
    > paper-backed masters with plastic-covered webbing -- if you wanted to
    > correct something you filled in the error with blue or green stuff and
    > typed it over. The ink was forced through the webbing (or something) and
    > god help you if you wanted to run a second batch. Offset was nicer --
    > shiny paper that you used with a special carbon ribbon (not the ordinary
    > carbon ribbon), and you could cut and paste the damn things for real.
    > Multilith, that's it. Very classy. I did a LOT of proposals on
    > multilith masters.
    >
    > No, I'm talking about REAL copy machines. You put a duplicating sheet
    > next to your original, exposed them both to some light (yellow?) and
    > then put the duplicated sheet through a solution and then maybe a drying
    > roller. You only copied stuff you really NEEDED to copy.
    >


    Ok, this thread has officially made me feel OLD! ;-)

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    If olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from?

  20. Re: Picture won't show in firefox?!

    Ed Mullen wrote:


    Tomorrows sig line was supposed to be:

    If corn oil is made from corn, vegetable oil is made from vegetables,
    and olive oil is made from olives, what is baby oil made from?

    but I see you've already beaten me to it.

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    burns the toast to a horrible crisp, which no decent human being would
    eat?

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