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  1. Any way to change icon colors?

    I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is VASTLY
    more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made the
    "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy and
    making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much
    more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there
    some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change one
    of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

  2. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Thunderbird Leader Storm teletyped, On 8/21/2007 5:34 AM:
    > I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    > other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    > studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is VASTLY
    > more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made the
    > "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy and
    > making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much
    > more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there
    > some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change
    > one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    Yes. Find the Classic.jar, which is a zip format archive and un-zip in
    an empty directory. The icons will be either GIF or PNG format images.
    Design replacements of the same size. When swapped with originals, the
    new must have same name as original, because the names are coded into
    the theme. When finished, re-zip to classic.jar. Test by swapping
    your custom version for the original in your profiles extensions/add-ons
    folder tree.

    --
    Ron K.
    Don't be a fonted,
    it's just type casting

  3. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    > other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    > studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is VASTLY
    > more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made the
    > "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy and
    > making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much
    > more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there
    > some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change one
    > of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?


    If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always move
    the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and select
    the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You might want to
    investigate some of the other themes to see if there are more visual
    differences between those two icons.

    Ann
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  4. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Annailis wrote:
    > If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always move
    > the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and select
    > the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You might want to
    > investigate some of the other themes to see if there are more visual
    > differences between those two icons.



    ..... or do what I did - set it to just show text and no icons at all.

    Saving screen real estate regards,

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  5. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    > other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    > studied graphic design.

    Hmmm... I have no icons on any of my Thunderbird *menus*. I do have a
    tool bar with colored icons.
    > Research has long proven that color is VASTLY more important than
    > shape in conveying meaning. But they made the "delete" icon and "junk"
    > icon almost the same colors. When busy and making fast choices, the
    > brain processes colors instantly, shapes much more slowly, so wrong
    > selections are inevitable.

    Geeze, exactly how busy and how fast of a choice are you making there
    Storm? I mean slow down a nanosecond or two and look, think, decide and
    select! Granted colors are probably better and discerned by the brain
    faster. But it's a weak argument that you are supposedly spending fast
    amounts of time making decisions so fast that the color stuff is messing
    you up...
    > End of rant.

    Indeed!
    > Is there some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to
    > change one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    Oh and final nit... Let me get this straight... You want to change the
    delete X to black and you call that a color? (I know technically it is
    but I would have assumed you would have picked another color than black!).

    You are aware you could move the two icons away from each other...
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    Why are builders afraid to have a 13th floor but book publishers aren't
    afraid to have Chapter 11?


  6. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > Annailis wrote:
    >> Storm wrote:
    >>> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail
    >>> when in other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons
    >>> obviously has not studied graphic design. Research has long
    >>> proven that color is VASTLY more important than shape in
    >>> conveying meaning. But they made the "delete" icon and "junk"
    >>> icon almost the same colors. When busy and making fast choices,
    >>> the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much more slowly, so
    >>> wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there some way
    >>> for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change one
    >>> of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    >>
    >> If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always
    >> move the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and
    >> select the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You
    >> might want to investigate some of the other themes to see if there
    >> are more visual differences between those two icons.
    >>
    >> Ann

    > Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around.
    > I had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it could
    > be done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box and then
    > back out again to get control over their position. Cheers!


    You're welcome. I still sometimes forget you have to drag the icons,
    etc. into the box and back out again to reposition them.

    Ann
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  7. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    > other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    > studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is VASTLY
    > more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made the
    > "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy and
    > making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much
    > more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there
    > some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change one
    > of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?


    then change themes:
    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thu.../browse/type:2

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  8. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    David Pyles wrote:
    > On 8/21/2007 12:20 PM, Storm wrote:
    >> Annailis wrote:
    >>> Storm wrote:
    >>>> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail
    >>>> when in other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons
    >>>> obviously has not studied graphic design. Research has long
    >>>> proven that color is VASTLY more important than shape in
    >>>> conveying meaning. But they made the "delete" icon and "junk"
    >>>> icon almost the same colors. When busy and making fast
    >>>> choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much more
    >>>> slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is
    >>>> there some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the
    >>>> code to change one of those icons, such as changing the delete
    >>>> X to black?
    >>>
    >>> If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always
    >>> move the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar
    >>> and select the "icon and text" view for more visual difference.
    >>> You might want to investigate some of the other themes to see if
    >>> there are more visual differences between those two icons.
    >>>
    >>> Ann

    >> Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around.
    >> I had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it
    >> could be done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box
    >> and then back out again to get control over their position.
    >> Cheers!

    > You don't have to drag them into the Customize Toolbars and back out
    > to move them, but you do have to have the box open. Dave Pyles


    Amazing! I've always dragged them into the Customize Toolbars box, then
    out again for some reason but you're right.

    Ann

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  9. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    > Storm wrote:
    >> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    >> other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    >> studied graphic design.

    > Hmmm... I have no icons on any of my Thunderbird *menus*. I do have a
    > tool bar with colored icons.
    >> Research has long proven that color is VASTLY more important than
    >> shape in conveying meaning. But they made the "delete" icon and "junk"
    >> icon almost the same colors. When busy and making fast choices, the
    >> brain processes colors instantly, shapes much more slowly, so wrong
    >> selections are inevitable.

    > Geeze, exactly how busy and how fast of a choice are you making there
    > Storm? I mean slow down a nanosecond or two and look, think, decide and
    > select! Granted colors are probably better and discerned by the brain
    > faster. But it's a weak argument that you are supposedly spending fast
    > amounts of time making decisions so fast that the color stuff is messing
    > you up...
    >> End of rant.

    > Indeed!
    >> Is there some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to
    >> change one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    > Oh and final nit... Let me get this straight... You want to change the
    > delete X to black and you call that a color? (I know technically it is
    > but I would have assumed you would have picked another color than black!).
    >
    > You are aware you could move the two icons away from each other...
    > --
    > Andrew DeFaria
    > Why are builders afraid to have a 13th floor but book publishers aren't
    > afraid to have Chapter 11?

    You're absolutely right: I do got through a huge number of emails every
    day, but I don't have the option of slowing down. I'm a professional
    public speaker, a consultant, an author, and the Executive Director of a
    non-profit. All of these are global activities, so I get a flood of
    emails from every time zone. Must be nice to only get your daily email
    from Aunt Thelma, Andrew, but that's not my life.

  10. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Annailis wrote:
    > Storm wrote:
    >> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    >> other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has not
    >> studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is VASTLY
    >> more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made the
    >> "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy and
    >> making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes much
    >> more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is there
    >> some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to change
    >> one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    >
    > If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always move
    > the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and select
    > the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You might want to
    > investigate some of the other themes to see if there are more visual
    > differences between those two icons.
    >
    > Ann

    Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around. I
    had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it could be
    done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box and then back
    out again to get control over their position. Cheers!

  11. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    On 8/21/2007 12:20 PM, Storm wrote:
    > Annailis wrote:
    >> Storm wrote:
    >>> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when in
    >>> other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously has
    >>> not studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color is
    >>> VASTLY more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they made
    >>> the "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When busy
    >>> and making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly, shapes
    >>> much more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of rant. Is
    >>> there some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the code to
    >>> change one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to black?

    >>
    >> If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always move
    >> the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and select
    >> the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You might want
    >> to investigate some of the other themes to see if there are more
    >> visual differences between those two icons.
    >>
    >> Ann

    > Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around. I
    > had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it could be
    > done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box and then back
    > out again to get control over their position. Cheers!

    You don't have to drag them into the Customize Toolbars and back out to
    move them, but you do have to have the box open.
    Dave Pyles

  12. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > You're absolutely right: I do got through a huge number of emails
    > every day, but I don't have the option of slowing down. I'm a
    > professional public speaker, a consultant, an author, and the
    > Executive Director of a non-profit. All of these are global
    > activities, so I get a flood of emails from every time zone. Must be
    > nice to only get your daily email from Aunt Thelma, Andrew, but that's
    > not my life.

    I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?

    We all have our crosses to bear....
    --
    Andrew DeFaria
    Sex: In America an obsession. In other parts of the world a fact. -
    Marlene Dietrich


  13. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around. I
    > had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it could be
    > done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box and then back
    > out again to get control over their position. Cheers!

    Hmmm... I don't. I just drag them to where I want them...
    --
    Andrew DeFaria
    What's another word for thesaurus?


  14. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    > I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?
    >
    > We all have our crosses to bear....



    If you quit ordering Cialis from those chinese websites, you wouldn't
    get nearly as much email. ;-)

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  15. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    > Storm wrote:
    >> You're absolutely right: I do got through a huge number of emails
    >> every day, but I don't have the option of slowing down. I'm a
    >> professional public speaker, a consultant, an author, and the
    >> Executive Director of a non-profit. All of these are global
    >> activities, so I get a flood of emails from every time zone. Must be
    >> nice to only get your daily email from Aunt Thelma, Andrew, but that's
    >> not my life.

    > I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?
    >
    > We all have our crosses to bear....
    > --
    > Andrew DeFaria
    > Sex: In America an obsession. In other parts of the world a fact. -
    > Marlene Dietrich

    Sounds like you need a better spam filter.

  16. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    David Pyles wrote:
    > On 8/21/2007 12:20 PM, Storm wrote:
    >> Annailis wrote:
    >>> Storm wrote:
    >>>> I love TBird 2.0.0.6 (especially the preview of incoming mail when
    >>>> in other programs), but whoever designed the menu icons obviously
    >>>> has not studied graphic design. Research has long proven that color
    >>>> is VASTLY more important than shape in conveying meaning. But they
    >>>> made the "delete" icon and "junk" icon almost the same colors. When
    >>>> busy and making fast choices, the brain processes colors instantly,
    >>>> shapes much more slowly, so wrong selections are inevitable. End of
    >>>> rant. Is there some way for someone who doesn't want to get into the
    >>>> code to change one of those icons, such as changing the delete X to
    >>>> black?
    >>>
    >>> If you don't want to fiddle with code or icons, you could always move
    >>> the "delete" icon away from the "junk" icon in the toolbar and select
    >>> the "icon and text" view for more visual difference. You might want
    >>> to investigate some of the other themes to see if there are more
    >>> visual differences between those two icons.
    >>>
    >>> Ann

    >> Thanks, Ann. I actually didn't realize you could move them around. I
    >> had tried to drag them once and failed. But when you said it could be
    >> done, I realized that you have to drag them into the box and then back
    >> out again to get control over their position. Cheers!

    > You don't have to drag them into the Customize Toolbars and back out to
    > move them, but you do have to have the box open.
    > Dave Pyles

    Huh: didn't realize that. Thanks for the insight!

  17. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Chris Barnes wrote:
    > Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    >> I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?
    >>
    >> We all have our crosses to bear....

    > If you quit ordering Cialis from those chinese websites, you wouldn't
    > get nearly as much email. ;-)

    Bad assumption (even for a joke). I've never done that.
    --
    Andrew DeFaria
    Disinformation is not as good as datinformation.


  18. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Storm wrote:
    > Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    >> Storm wrote:
    >>> You're absolutely right: I do got through a huge number of emails
    >>> every day, but I don't have the option of slowing down. I'm a
    >>> professional public speaker, a consultant, an author, and the
    >>> Executive Director of a non-profit. All of these are global
    >>> activities, so I get a flood of emails from every time zone. Must
    >>> be nice to only get your daily email from Aunt Thelma, Andrew, but
    >>> that's not my life.

    >> I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?
    >>
    >> We all have our crosses to bear....

    > Sounds like you need a better spam filter.

    Another bad assumption. I never said that any of them hit my inbox. In
    fact only 7 did - 6 from me and 1 from linkedin. You see I have a spam
    filter. Wrote it myself. It works fine, probably better than yours,
    thank you very much.
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    All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to
    criticism.


  19. Re: Any way to change icon colors?

    Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    > Storm wrote:
    >> Andrew DeFaria wrote:
    >>> Storm wrote:
    >>>> You're absolutely right: I do got through a huge number of emails
    >>>> every day, but I don't have the option of slowing down. I'm a
    >>>> professional public speaker, a consultant, an author, and the
    >>>> Executive Director of a non-profit. All of these are global
    >>>> activities, so I get a flood of emails from every time zone. Must
    >>>> be nice to only get your daily email from Aunt Thelma, Andrew, but
    >>>> that's not my life.
    >>> I got 7210 emails today (well as of 11:06 pm).... How many did you get?
    >>>
    >>> We all have our crosses to bear....

    >> Sounds like you need a better spam filter.

    > Another bad assumption. I never said that any of them hit my inbox. In
    > fact only 7 did - 6 from me and 1 from linkedin. You see I have a spam
    > filter. Wrote it myself. It works fine, probably better than yours,
    > thank you very much.
    > --
    > Andrew DeFaria
    > All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to
    > criticism.

    I have no trouble believing that 6 out of 7 emails you receive are from
    yourself.

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