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Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!

Tony MS

Tony MS wrote:
> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>
> Tony MS
In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.

On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
> Tony MS wrote:
>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>
>> Tony MS
> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.

That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
CTinFL

Cal Tinson wrote:
> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>> Tony MS wrote:
>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees
>>> only his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to
>>> me!
>>>
>>> Tony MS
>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>
> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!! CTinFL

don't know what do you want to mean , so here are some other methods :
1.create a mailing List for those recipients :
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mailing_lists
while composing , just type the nickname for the mailing list and change
'To' to 'Bcc'

or
2.(if you don't want to create mailing List ) in compose window , click
on 'Address Book' icon ( On Toolbar)
use 'Control' key for multiple selection within Address Book sidebar
after selection , right click on any selected recipient , and select
'Add To Bcc field'

Cal Tinson wrote:
> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>> Tony MS wrote:
>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>
>>> Tony MS
>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>
> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
> CTinFL
I don't think this is what the OP wants. He wants to send a message to
a list, but have each person listed in the "TO", and they don't know who
the other persons are. The BCC thing is correct, but it doesn't put
each person in the To column. Something similar to what a mail merge of
a word processor does.

The answer is No. But you might want to look into Mihov's program:
http://www.mailsender.info/

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On 12/30/2006 5:46 PM eastern, Snagglepuss wrote:
> Cal Tinson wrote:
>> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>>
>>>> Tony MS
>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>>
>> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
>> CTinFL
> I don't think this is what the OP wants. He wants to send a message to
> a list, but have each person listed in the "TO", and they don't know who
> the other persons are. The BCC thing is correct, but it doesn't put
> each person in the To column. Something similar to what a mail merge of
> a word processor does.
>
> The answer is No. But you might want to look into Mihov's program:
> http://www.mailsender.info/

Dollars to donuts the OP isn't trying to fool recipients into thinking
they're the only ones involved (unless he or she is a spammer), and thus
wouldn't object to each one seeing To: undisclosed-recipients:;
CTinFL

In message Nir
wrote:

>Tony MS wrote:
>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>
>In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.

That won't get the recipient's address into the TO field, it just hides
the rest of the addresses.

--
Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?

Nir wrote:
> Tony MS wrote:
>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>
>> Tony MS
> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
sorry , it will not solve your problem . Ignore it.

DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message Nir
> wrote:
>
>> Tony MS wrote:
>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>
> That won't get the recipient's address into the TO field, it just hides
> the rest of the addresses.
>
AFAIK there isn't a way to do this in TB up to 1.5.0.9. I use lists, and
what I do is open the Contact Sidebar, find the list, right-click and
select Write. This opens a Compose window, with the name of the list in
the To: field. I don't know what this looks like to the recipient, but I
have enough e-mail addresses to run a test. I'll post the result in a bit.
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Take care

Sadiq

Sadiq Mohamed wrote:
> DevilsPGD wrote:
>> In message Nir
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>> That won't get the recipient's address into the TO field, it just hides
>> the rest of the addresses.
>>
> AFAIK there isn't a way to do this in TB up to 1.5.0.9. I use lists, and
> what I do is open the Contact Sidebar, find the list, right-click and
> select Write. This opens a Compose window, with the name of the list in
> the To: field. I don't know what this looks like to the recipient, but I
> have enough e-mail addresses to run a test. I'll post the result in a bit.
When sending to a list always include your email address in the list so
you will be able to see what the recipients have received. This also
proves the entire group has been sent out successfully when you receive
your copy.

James

Snagglepuss wrote:
> Cal Tinson wrote:
>> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees
>>>> only his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>>
>>>> Tony MS
>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>>
>> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
>> CTinFL
> I don't think this is what the OP wants. He wants to send a message to
> a list, but have each person listed in the "TO", and they don't know who
> the other persons are. The BCC thing is correct, but it doesn't put
> each person in the To column. Something similar to what a mail merge of
> a word processor does.
>
> The answer is No. But you might want to look into Mihov's program:
> http://www.mailsender.info/
>
Many thanks, mailsender looks exactly what I want.

BTW, I'm not a spammer, but I don't want all my correspondents to have
my full list of contacts, and I think the bcc solution with its
"undisclosed recipients" in the "to" box is a bit odd

On 12/31/2006 5:16 AM eastern, Tony MS wrote:

> Many thanks, mailsender looks exactly what I want.
>
> BTW, I'm not a spammer, but I don't want all my correspondents to have
> my full list of contacts, and I think the bcc solution with its
> "undisclosed recipients" in the "to" box is a bit odd

Glad mailsender will give you what you want (glad no one took me up on
my dollars to donuts bet ).

You're right not to want to use a full list of contacts. Unless they all
know each other, including them all in a visible list is really an
invasion of their privacy, and all it takes is one goof by any one of
them to get them all on a spam list. I've been unable to convince a good
friend to edit forwarded stuff he gets and then forwards OR to use a bcc
list - some of his forwards are nested 5 or 10 deep and contain
literally hundreds of addresses ARRRGH!!!

While the bcc solution can't do what you want, two comments:

- the TB wording can be changed to a different phrase (I too think To:
undisclosed-recipients:; looks a bit odd).

- many folk send to themselves and bcc the list (I don't even notice it
most of the time when friends do that).
CTinFL

On 12/31/2006 8:01 AM eastern, Cal Tinson wrote:
> On 12/31/2006 5:16 AM eastern, Tony MS wrote:
>
>> Many thanks, mailsender looks exactly what I want.
>>
>> BTW, I'm not a spammer, but I don't want all my correspondents to have
>> my full list of contacts, and I think the bcc solution with its
>> "undisclosed recipients" in the "to" box is a bit odd
>
> Glad mailsender will give you what you want (glad no one took me up on
> my dollars to donuts bet ).
>
> You're right not to want to use a full list of contacts. Unless they all
> know each other, including them all in a visible list is really an
> invasion of their privacy, and all it takes is one goof by any one of
> them to get them all on a spam list. I've been unable to convince a good
> friend to edit forwarded stuff he gets and then forwards OR to use a bcc
> list - some of his forwards are nested 5 or 10 deep and contain
> literally hundreds of addresses ARRRGH!!!
>
> While the bcc solution can't do what you want, two comments:
>
> - the TB wording can be changed to a different phrase (I too think To:
> undisclosed-recipients:; looks a bit odd).
>
> - many folk send to themselves and bcc the list (I don't even notice it
> most of the time when friends do that).
> CTinFL

I've been unable to find the tip on how to change the phrase (anyone?),
but as another option, it's possible to eliminate it:

Just toggle mail.compose.add_undisclosed_recipients with the
Configuration Editor to false from the default true. This eliminates the
To line completely when no To entry has been made.
CTinFL

Cal Tinson wrote:
> On 12/31/2006 8:01 AM eastern, Cal Tinson wrote:
>> While the bcc solution can't do what you want, two comments:
>>
>> - the TB wording can be changed to a different phrase (I too think To:
>> undisclosed-recipients:; looks a bit odd).
>>
>> - many folk send to themselves and bcc the list (I don't even notice it
>> most of the time when friends do that).
>> CTinFL
>
> I've been unable to find the tip on how to change the phrase (anyone?),
> but as another option, it's possible to eliminate it:
>
> Just toggle mail.compose.add_undisclosed_recipients with the
> Configuration Editor to false from the default true. This eliminates the
> To line completely when no To entry has been made.
> CTinFL
>
As I understand it, its built deep into the code

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James wrote:
> Sadiq Mohamed wrote:
>> DevilsPGD wrote:
>>> In message Nir
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees
>>>>> only his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>>> That won't get the recipient's address into the TO field, it just hides
>>> the rest of the addresses.
>>>
>> AFAIK there isn't a way to do this in TB up to 1.5.0.9. I use lists, and
>> what I do is open the Contact Sidebar, find the list, right-click and
>> select Write. This opens a Compose window, with the name of the list in
>> the To: field. I don't know what this looks like to the recipient, but I
>> have enough e-mail addresses to run a test. I'll post the result in a
>> bit.
> When sending to a list always include your email address in the list so
> you will be able to see what the recipients have received. This also
> proves the entire group has been sent out successfully when you receive
> your copy.
>
> James
Ok I tried this work around. Make a list of recipients. Open a Compose
window, and out yourself as the TO: address, then add the list and
change it to BCC: Then the recipients will only see your address. if you
don't mind them knowing they are on a list this may be a solution.

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Take care

Sadiq

On 2006-12-30 15:24 (-0700 UTC), Cal Tinson wrote:

> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>> Tony MS wrote:
>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>
>>> Tony MS
>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>
> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!

This is one of the stupidest functionalities I've ever seen: If I create a
list and /don't/ want each and every addressee in it to see who the other
addressees are, I have to BCC the /list/?

Isn't the 'hiding' of e-mail addresses already implicit in the very idea of
creating a list?

/b.

--
People are stupid. /A/ person may be smart, but /people/ are stupid.
--Stephen M. Graham

Brian Heinrich wrote:
> On 2006-12-30 15:24 (-0700 UTC), Cal Tinson wrote:
>
>> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees
>>>> only his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>>
>>>> Tony MS
>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>>
>> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
>
> This is one of the stupidest functionalities I've ever seen: If I
> create a list and /don't/ want each and every addressee in it to see who
> the other addressees are, I have to BCC the /list/?
>
> Isn't the 'hiding' of e-mail addresses already implicit in the very idea
> of creating a list?
>
> /b.
>


No, you mistake the purpose of a list.
A list is a collection of people/addresses that you mail to as a group.
For example if you mail to say 10 friends and family often, you put them
in a list. Saves you having to type out all 10 email addresses when
addressing the email.

IF you want to hide the list, you BCC (blind carbon copy) it - then no
one else sees the addresses.

Say for example you are mailing in a business environment, you may not
want the emails hidden, you may wish to have them listed so your
correspondents are aware of who is 'in the loop' on that subject so to
speak.

When I email to various abuse desks, I list them all in the clear (not
bcc) - so each desk is aware of who all I am in contact with regarding
that specific spam.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:35:17 -0700, Brian Heinrich wrote:

> On 2006-12-30 15:24 (-0700 UTC), Cal Tinson wrote:
>
>> On 12/30/2006 5:17 PM eastern, Nir wrote:
>>> Tony MS wrote:
>>>> Is there any way of sending to a list so that each recipient sees only
>>>> his own address in the to box? Spammers manage to do this to me!
>>>>
>>>> Tony MS
>>> In compose window , change 'To' to 'Bcc' for every recipient id.
>>
>> That's a PITA. Just bcc the LIST!!
>
> This is one of the stupidest functionalities I've ever seen: If I create a
> list and /don't/ want each and every addressee in it to see who the other
> addressees are, I have to BCC the /list/?
>
> Isn't the 'hiding' of e-mail addresses already implicit in the very idea of
> creating a list?
>
> /b.


No. In business it's often important that each recipient knows to
whom the mail has been sent.

p.
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