On 17.11.2006 19:01 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
> On 2006-11-17 11:08 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:
>
>> When I reply to messages from a particular correspondent, for some
>> mysterious reason TB creates 2 'To' entries on separate lines, one of
>> them meaningless for e-mail purposes.
>>
>> In incoming messages the sender's ID address appears in the following
>> form in the TB 'From' field:
>>
>> Hamburg
>>
>> (I hasten to add that this isn't the actual address.)
>>
>> The user agent is Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
>>
>> When I reply, TB creates 2 'To' entries as follows:
>>
>> To: Schröder
>> To: Hamburg
>>
>> Note the German umlaut in the first 'To' field!
>>
>> On closer inspection of the full message header it would appear that
>> 'Schröder' is somehow 'hidden' in 'Hamburg', so to speak, i.e. when I
>> view the source I see the following entry under 'From':
>>
>> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?=
>>
>
> The problem is here, since the message is from |Schröder, Hamburg| (or,
> possibly, |Schröder,_Hamburg|). The comma is a delimiter in To: (or CC:
> or BCC lists, which is why you're getting an entry for |Schröder| and
> one for |Hamburg |.
>
> The only way to avoid the phenomenon is to enclose the name in double
> quotation marks (IIRC, they have to be double quotes, not just inverted
> commas): |"Schröder, Hamburg" |. But
> that's something your correspondent would have to do. . . .

I can't see a comma - where is it???

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Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

On 2006-11-17 12:06 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:

> On 17.11.2006 19:01 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> On 2006-11-17 11:08 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:



>>> On closer inspection of the full message header it would appear that
>>> 'Schröder' is somehow 'hidden' in 'Hamburg', so to speak, i.e. when I
>>> view the source I see the following entry under 'From':
>>>
>>> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?=
>>>
>>
>> The problem is here, since the message is from |Schröder, Hamburg|
>> (or, possibly, |Schröder,_Hamburg|). The comma is a delimiter in To:
>> (or CC: or BCC lists, which is why you're getting an entry for
>> |Schröder| and one for |Hamburg |.
>>
>> The only way to avoid the phenomenon is to enclose the name in double
>> quotation marks (IIRC, they have to be double quotes, not just
>> inverted commas): |"Schröder, Hamburg"
>> |. But that's something your
>> correspondent would have to do. . . .
>
> I can't see a comma - where is it???

2C is the hex for a comma; in decimal, it's 44. It's the same in CP-1252,
so if, in Windows, you hold down and type 44 (or 044 or 0044) from the
keypad, you'll get a comma.

/b.

On 17.11.2006 19:25 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
> On 2006-11-17 12:06 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:
>
>> On 17.11.2006 19:01 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
>>> On 2006-11-17 11:08 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:
>
>
>
>>>> On closer inspection of the full message header it would appear that
>>>> 'Schröder' is somehow 'hidden' in 'Hamburg', so to speak, i.e. when
>>>> I view the source I see the following entry under 'From':
>>>>
>>>> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?=
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is here, since the message is from |Schröder, Hamburg|
>>> (or, possibly, |Schröder,_Hamburg|). The comma is a delimiter in To:
>>> (or CC: or BCC lists, which is why you're getting an entry for
>>> |Schröder| and one for |Hamburg |.
>>>
>>> The only way to avoid the phenomenon is to enclose the name in double
>>> quotation marks (IIRC, they have to be double quotes, not just
>>> inverted commas): |"Schröder, Hamburg"
>>> |. But that's something your
>>> correspondent would have to do. . . .
>>
>> I can't see a comma - where is it???
>
> 2C is the hex for a comma; in decimal, it's 44. It's the same in
> CP-1252, so if, in Windows, you hold down and type 44 (or 044 or
> 0044) from the keypad, you'll get a comma.
>
> /b.

Fascinating - thanks for the explanation!

But how come TB only shows "Hamburg " in
the From field, while the actual From field is
"=?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?= "?

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

On 2006-11-17 12:38 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:

> On 17.11.2006 19:25 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> On 2006-11-17 12:06 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:
>>
>>> On 17.11.2006 19:01 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:
>>>> On 2006-11-17 11:08 (-0700 UTC), Herb wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> On closer inspection of the full message header it would appear
>>>>> that 'Schröder' is somehow 'hidden' in 'Hamburg', so to speak, i.e.
>>>>> when I view the source I see the following entry under 'From':
>>>>>
>>>>> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?=
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem is here, since the message is from |Schröder, Hamburg|
>>>> (or, possibly, |Schröder,_Hamburg|). The comma is a delimiter in
>>>> To: (or CC: or BCC lists, which is why you're getting an entry for
>>>> |Schröder| and one for |Hamburg |.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to avoid the phenomenon is to enclose the name in
>>>> double quotation marks (IIRC, they have to be double quotes, not
>>>> just inverted commas): |"Schröder, Hamburg"
>>>> |. But that's something your
>>>> correspondent would have to do. . . .
>>>
>>> I can't see a comma - where is it???
>>
>> 2C is the hex for a comma; in decimal, it's 44. It's the same in
>> CP-1252, so if, in Windows, you hold down and type 44 (or 044 or
>> 0044) from the keypad, you'll get a comma.
>>
>> /b.
>
> Fascinating - thanks for the explanation!
>
> But how come TB only shows "Hamburg " in
> the From field, while the actual From field is
> "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?= "?

That I'm not sure of, but I'm assuming for much the same reason that it's
putting |Schröder| on a line all by itself when you try to reply: it parses
the line and discards |Schröder,| because there's no actual e-mail address
associated with it.

/b.

On 17.11.2006 19:48 UK Time, Brian Heinrich wrote:

>>>> I can't see a comma - where is it???
>>>
>>> 2C is the hex for a comma; in decimal, it's 44. It's the same in
>>> CP-1252, so if, in Windows, you hold down and type 44 (or 044
>>> or 0044) from the keypad, you'll get a comma.
>>>
>>> /b.
>>
>> Fascinating - thanks for the explanation!
>>
>> But how come TB only shows "Hamburg "
>> in the From field, while the actual From field is
>> "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Schr=F6der=2C_Hamburg?= "?
>
> That I'm not sure of, but I'm assuming for much the same reason that
> it's putting |Schröder| on a line all by itself when you try to reply:
> it parses the line and discards |Schröder,| because there's no actual
> e-mail address associated with it.
>
> /b.

Thanks for your further comments.

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk