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  1. Spam from the year 2038?

    I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    mortgages, as well as urgent suggestions to buy into small cap stocks,
    probably based on careful research of archived articles from present-day
    issues of the Wall Street Journal

    Either spammers in the future have developed time travel, or there is
    something magic about this date.

    TB Content: I have added a filter to delete any mail from later than the
    year 2010. I hope to remember that fact when January 1, 2010 comes
    around. If I forget, I will wait until time travel becomes freely
    available and send myself a reminder e-mail, but spoof the datestamp so
    it slips past the filter.

    --

    Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott

  2. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    > I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    > mortgages, as well as urgent suggestions to buy into small cap stocks,
    > probably based on careful research of archived articles from present-day
    > issues of the Wall Street Journal
    >
    > Either spammers in the future have developed time travel, or there is
    > something magic about this date.


    There is something magical about this date. See
    http://pw1.netcom.com/~rogermw/Y2038.html



  3. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    eveC A Upsdell > wrote:
    > Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >> I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    >> mortgages, as well as urgent suggestions to buy into small cap stocks,
    >> probably based on careful research of archived articles from
    >> present-day issues of the Wall Street Journal
    >>
    >> Either spammers in the future have developed time travel, or there is
    >> something magic about this date.

    >
    > There is something magical about this date. See
    > http://pw1.netcom.com/~rogermw/Y2038.html
    >
    >

    everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    programmed it all.

    --
    It comes to the end of Bill Gates long, successful life, he finds
    himself in the Purgatory waiting room, when God enters . . . "Well,
    Bill," says God, "I'm confused. I'm not sure whether to send you to
    Heaven or Hell: you helped society enormously by putting a computer in
    almost every home in the world, and yet you've also created some of
    the most unearthly frustrations known to mankind. I'm going to do
    something I've never done before: I'm going to let you choose where
    you want to go." Bill replies, "Well, thanks, God. What's the
    difference between the two?" God says, "I'm willing to let you visit
    both places briefly to help you make your decision." "Okay, where
    should I go first?" asks Bill. God says, "That's up to you." Bill
    says, "OK, let's try Hell first." So Bill goes to Hell. It's a
    beautiful, clean, sandy beach with clear waters. There are thousands
    of beautiful women running around, playing in the water, laughing and
    frolicking about. The sun is shining, the temperature is just right.
    The whole thing looks perfect, and Bill is very pleased. "This is
    great!" he tells God, "If this is Hell, I REALLY want to see Heaven!"
    "Fine," says God, and off they go . . . to be continued!

  4. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    gwtc wrote:
    > eveC A Upsdell > wrote:
    >> Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
    >>> I seem to receive a lot of spam dated 2038. Boner pills and home
    >>> mortgages, as well as urgent suggestions to buy into small cap
    >>> stocks, probably based on careful research of archived articles from
    >>> present-day issues of the Wall Street Journal
    >>>
    >>> Either spammers in the future have developed time travel, or there is
    >>> something magic about this date.

    >>
    >> There is something magical about this date. See
    >> http://pw1.netcom.com/~rogermw/Y2038.html
    >>
    >>

    > everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    > wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    > problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    > forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    > programmed it all.
    >




    Um, why worry about it? Junk Mail Controls catches all my spam (well 99
    percent of it anyway) regardless of what date it uses. Simply changing
    the date on a spam doesnt allow it to get past JMC.

    Its entirely too simple, and perhaps thats the problem.
    If the message is a spam, and JMC didnt catch it, uee the JUNK button to
    train it.
    If the message isnt a apsm, and JMC did catch it, use the NOT JUNK
    button to train it.


    Thats it. Nothing more. Using that and only that allows JMC to reach a
    plus 90% catch ratio in less than two weeks, and steadily improves it to
    99% in a few months. Trying to 'second guess' it, or 'improve it' by
    use of marking/unmarking, old messages, message filters and so on doesnt
    do a thing. JMC doesnt need any help, its smart enough on it own to do
    the job. Its deceptively simple and easy and if you simply allow it to
    do its job it will.

  5. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 16.09.2006 17:29, gwtc wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    > wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    > problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    > forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    > programmed it all.
    >


    By that time I'll be in my 90's and if still breathing air, I won't give
    a hoot !! :-)

    --
    Jay Garcia Netscape/Mozilla Champion
    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  6. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 17.09.2006 15:15, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Jay Garcia to
    generate the following:? :

    >On 16.09.2006 17:29, gwtc wrote:
    >
    > --- Original Message ---
    >
    >
    >
    >>everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>programmed it all.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >By that time I'll be in my 90's and if still breathing air, I won't give
    >a hoot !! :-)
    >
    >
    >

    my WinXP clock goes to 2099 and then jumps to 1980..... as I'm now 68,
    I reckon I'll join Jay in that hooting!

    reg

    ps - my old Dad snuffed it aged 94.... so I *may* have a chance yet...

  7. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Jay Garcia wrote:

    > On 16.09.2006 17:29, gwtc wrote:
    >
    >> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >> programmed it all.

    >
    > By that time I'll be in my 90's and if still breathing air, I won't give
    > a hoot !! :-)


    So will I, but I'll be royally pissed that I have to have a new computer
    implanted, even if it DOES display on the inside of my eyelids.

    --
    Cheers, Bev (Happy Linux User #85683, Slackware 10.2)
    ================================================== =================
    Giving advice likely to kill the stupid is called passive eugenics.



  8. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    gwtc wrote:

    > everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    > wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    > problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    > forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    > programmed it all.


    I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

    Rinaldi
    --
    The soul would have no rainbow had the eyes no tears.

  9. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 18.09.2006 08:05, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rinaldi J.
    Montessi to generate the following:? :

    >gwtc wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>programmed it all.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
    >
    >Rinaldi
    >
    >

    pah! OF COURSE it's Billy-Boy's fault.... there's no-one else here... 8-)

    btw - the year2K problem was a result of the *very* early DOS codes for
    4 and 8 bit processors - the limitation as per 32 bit was analog the
    same (could only date two digits)

    reg

  10. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    squaredancer wrote:
    > On 18.09.2006 08:05, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rinaldi J.
    > Montessi to generate the following:? :
    >
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>> programmed it all.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
    >>
    >> Rinaldi
    >>
    >>

    > pah! OF COURSE it's Billy-Boy's fault.... there's no-one else here... 8-)
    >
    > btw - the year2K problem was a result of the *very* early DOS codes for
    > 4 and 8 bit processors - the limitation as per 32 bit was analog the
    > same (could only date two digits)
    >
    > reg


    That may be in part true for microprocessor-based systems, but storing
    of 2-digit years was in vogue long before DOS existed, and even with
    very early 32-bit mainframe systems. The problem then was memory, as in
    not enough of it, and believe it or not using 2-digit years (and other
    similar techniques) saved a lot of memory. In those days we developed
    fully functional apps in memory spaces of 32KB (not MB) and smaller.

  11. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    T-bird Leader squaredancer radioed the tower On 9/18/2006 12:40 PM:

    > On 18.09.2006 08:05, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Rinaldi J.
    > Montessi to generate the following:? :
    >
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>> programmed it all.
    >>>

    >>
    >> I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
    >>
    >> Rinaldi
    >>
    >>

    > pah! OF COURSE it's Billy-Boy's fault.... there's no-one else here... 8-)
    >
    > btw - the year2K problem was a result of the *very* early DOS codes for
    > 4 and 8 bit processors - the limitation as per 32 bit was analog the
    > same (could only date two digits)
    >
    > reg


    Reg, I think your a but foggy on the CPU's. The IBM PC ran Intel 8086, a
    16 bit processor running 8 bit code. Problems were with the ROM chips of
    the time that were 8 bit and did not hold the longer date strings. Later
    with the IBM 80286 powered PC-AT the BIOS ROM was upgraded. Now the BIOS
    ROM's are 32 bit and they together with the software face the new danger.

    What were 8 bit were the ones in Apple II, Atari, and other systems
    running the 6502 or 65C02 CPU chips.

    --
    Ron K.
    Don't be a fonted, it's just type casting.

  12. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    > gwtc wrote:
    >
    >> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >> programmed it all.

    >
    > I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >


    sure it is. Every computer problem is blamed on Billy-boy. Who else
    is there?

    --
    Pic of the Day: New Campbell's Soup:
    http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?im...mofspamnx1.jpg

  13. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    T-bird Leader gwtc radioed the tower On 9/18/2006 1:48 PM:

    > Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>> programmed it all.

    >> I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>

    >
    > sure it is. Every computer problem is blamed on Billy-boy. Who else
    > is there?
    >


    IBM for the design of the PC, PC-XT, and PC-AT.

    --
    Ron K.
    Don't be a fonted, it's just type casting.

  14. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    gwtc wrote:

    > everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    > wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    > problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    > forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    > programmed it all.
    >



    Nonsense, at the rate the industry is changing, updating, any computer
    current today will be hopelessly outdated by 2038.


    21 years ago, 64K in two banks was a BIG computer! 64K was enuff memory
    for a system, a game AND a word program!
    Now, 64K isnt big enuff for an icon!

    When hard drives first arrived, 2MB was HUGE!
    They are now offering 100GB drives

    In 1992, 28K was the optimum connection speed, it was IMPOSSIBLE to
    exceed that. Then along came 56K, DSL, ADSL, Cable. My connection speed
    is almost 1MB per second.

    Computers today might have a problem or concern with 2038 - but any
    computer today will be nothing but a museum piece in 2038.


    Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and
    speed as the 'supercomputers' did then.


    By 2038 the problem will be long gone. Besides, Mr Gates is not the only
    builder of computers or software out there.



  15. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    gwtc wrote:
    > Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    >> gwtc wrote:
    >>
    >>> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>> programmed it all.

    >> I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>

    >
    > sure it is. Every computer problem is blamed on Billy-boy. Who else
    > is there?
    >



    Well, Billy-boy used Apples Mac GUI interface to write Windows I ya
    know. Windows I was a LICENSED Apple product in fact.

    By the time Windows 3 had come out, Billy-boy had changed things enough
    that a license was no longer required, or so he thought. Apple
    disagreed, but the courts sided with Billy-boy.

    So, if you want to blame this on anyone, blame APPLE!

  16. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 09/18/2006 07:31 PM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

    > Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and
    > speed as the 'supercomputers' did then.



    And then there is the fact that the Apple MacBook on my desk is light
    years removed from the NASA computers that flew Mercury, Gemini, and
    Apollo. Sort've scary when you think about it.

    Just showing my age

    Have a nice day!

    Boyd

    --
    Boyd Porter
    La Vergne, TN

    "You are in a NG of twisty little messages all alike. There is a key on
    the floor. . . ."

  17. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    On 18.09.2006 19:31, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

    --- Original Message ---

    > When hard drives first arrived, 2MB was HUGE!
    > They are now offering 100GB drives


    My first computer was an Apple II with a 40 mb HD

    My present system here runs with 4-300GB outboard USB-2/Firewire drives

    > In 1992, 28K was the optimum connection speed, it was IMPOSSIBLE to
    > exceed that. Then along came 56K, DSL, ADSL, Cable. My connection speed
    > is almost 1MB per second.


    That's slow even by today's standards. Cox just announce it's new 12meg
    service which I'm testing at the moment. I'm not in that big a hurry to
    download stuff but video streaming is awesome.

    Prime time speedtest a few mins ago:

    Download Speed: 10666 kbps (1333.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 1037 kbps (129.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

    Not too shabby.

    --
    Jay Garcia Netscape/Mozilla Champion
    UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org

  18. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Boyd Porter wrote:
    > On 09/18/2006 07:31 PM, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    >> Go back 20 years, heck my desktop today has almost as much power and
    >> speed as the 'supercomputers' did then.

    >
    >
    > And then there is the fact that the Apple MacBook on my desk is light
    > years removed from the NASA computers that flew Mercury, Gemini, and
    > Apollo. Sort've scary when you think about it.
    >
    > Just showing my age
    >
    > Have a nice day!
    >
    > Boyd
    >



    The computer you have on your desk is smaller, lighter and 10,000 times
    more powerful than the ones that went to the moon. And a darn sight
    cheaper too!

  19. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Jay Garcia wrote:
    > On 18.09.2006 19:31, Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    >
    > --- Original Message ---
    >
    >> When hard drives first arrived, 2MB was HUGE!
    >> They are now offering 100GB drives

    >
    > My first computer was an Apple II with a 40 mb HD
    >
    > My present system here runs with 4-300GB outboard USB-2/Firewire drives
    >
    >> In 1992, 28K was the optimum connection speed, it was IMPOSSIBLE to
    >> exceed that. Then along came 56K, DSL, ADSL, Cable. My connection speed
    >> is almost 1MB per second.

    >
    > That's slow even by today's standards. Cox just announce it's new 12meg
    > service which I'm testing at the moment. I'm not in that big a hurry to
    > download stuff but video streaming is awesome.
    >
    > Prime time speedtest a few mins ago:
    >
    > Download Speed: 10666 kbps (1333.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
    > Upload Speed: 1037 kbps (129.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    >
    > Not too shabby.
    >



    Um, thats my speed. 1MB per second - 1333 KB/sec

  20. Re: Spam from the year 2038?

    Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
    > gwtc wrote:
    >> Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    >>> gwtc wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> everyone thought that the y2k was going to be a big problem, but it
    >>>> wasn't. It was a fizzle. Its the Year 2038 that will be the big
    >>>> problem. All the calendars on my computer end at 2038. I will be
    >>>> forced to get a new computer and a new OS. Thats the way Billy-boy
    >>>> programmed it all.
    >>> I'm not sure that was Billy-boys fault.
    >>>

    >>
    >> sure it is. Every computer problem is blamed on Billy-boy. Who else
    >> is there?
    >>

    >
    >
    > Well, Billy-boy used Apples Mac GUI interface to write Windows I ya
    > know. Windows I was a LICENSED Apple product in fact.
    >
    > By the time Windows 3 had come out, Billy-boy had changed things enough
    > that a license was no longer required, or so he thought. Apple
    > disagreed, but the courts sided with Billy-boy.
    >
    > So, if you want to blame this on anyone, blame APPLE!


    You should know that Apple 'borrowed' the GUI from the Xerox PARC
    research. Apple didn't invent the GUI any more than MS did.

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